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Jorma Panula claims women should not be conductors (A Finn that has a point)
04-05-2014, 08:46 PM #1
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
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Finnish conductor Jorma Panula under fire for sexist remarks regarding female conductors.

Finnish composer and conducting coach Jorma Panula has caused a storm in his home country by criticising women conductors in a television interview. In an interview published by the Finnish news broadcaster MTV, Panula was bluntly asked if it is a good thing that women conductors enter the profession. Panula replied with a firm “I do not!”

Jorma Panula, 83, is a highly regarded conductor and educator, and throughout the 60’s and 70’s served as the artistic director and chief conductor of the Turku Philharmonic Orchestra, the Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra, and the Aarhus Symphony. He served as Professor of Conducting at the Sibelius Academy in Helsinki, Royal College of Music in Stockholm, and the Royal Danish Academy of Music in Copenhagen.

More - http://www.limelightmagazine.com.au/Arti...icles+feed
04-05-2014, 08:50 PM #2
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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It's not exactly the NFL. Strange.

Sibelius Academy in Helsinki? İmage

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04-05-2014, 08:58 PM #3
Octo Mother Superior
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Oh there be old farts everywhere. chuckle.gif I doubt it caused much of an outrage as I've not seen any of it in the press over here.
04-05-2014, 09:04 PM #4
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(04-05-2014, 08:58 PM)Octo Wrote:  Oh there be old farts everywhere. chuckle.gif I doubt it caused much of an outrage as I've not seen any of it in the press over here.

They made mention of the story on my world-news podcast chuckle.gif
04-05-2014, 09:08 PM #5
Octo Mother Superior
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Now why would they even pick up on a non-story like that? coffeetime.gif
04-05-2014, 09:08 PM #6
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(04-05-2014, 08:50 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  It's not exactly the NFL. Strange.

Sibelius Academy in Helsinki? İmage

lmao.gif she looks just like Meryl Streep from the movie "death becomes her" (fyi twas a good movie) when her paint starts flaking off

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04-05-2014, 09:12 PM #7
Octo Mother Superior
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Quote:“It’s not a problem – if they choose the right pieces, if they take more feminine music. Bruckner or Stravinsky will not do, but Debussy is okay. This is purely an issue of biology.”

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04-05-2014, 09:13 PM #8
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(04-05-2014, 09:08 PM)Octo Wrote:  Now why would they even pick up on a non-story like that? coffeetime.gif

I dunno itz the BBC(British Bullsheet Corporation)
04-05-2014, 09:48 PM #9
Octo Mother Superior
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I checked around on Finnish news and I guess there was a mild debate. I think the journalist should know better than to ask a yes or no question about something of that nature...Unless he was fishing for it of course. I think it's funny as hell lmao.gif
04-06-2014, 04:20 PM #10
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-05-2014, 08:46 PM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  Finnish conductor Jorma Panula under fire for sexist remarks regarding female conductors.

Finnish composer and conducting coach Jorma Panula has caused a storm in his home country by criticising women conductors in a television interview. In an interview published by the Finnish news broadcaster MTV, Panula was bluntly asked if it is a good thing that women conductors enter the profession. Panula replied with a firm “I do not!”

Jorma Panula, 83, is a highly regarded conductor and educator, and throughout the 60’s and 70’s served as the artistic director and chief conductor of the Turku Philharmonic Orchestra, the Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra, and the Aarhus Symphony. He served as Professor of Conducting at the Sibelius Academy in Helsinki, Royal College of Music in Stockholm, and the Royal Danish Academy of Music in Copenhagen.

More - http://www.limelightmagazine.com.au/Arti...icles+feed

That's disturbing, in that, he is in the position of coach, of teacher, yet discriminates. I hope he's not the only "go to" conducting coach there, with that hateful attitude.
04-06-2014, 04:33 PM #11
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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The feminine of Maestro is Mattress and it doesn't look good on teh program.
04-06-2014, 04:36 PM #12
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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They could always just call the person Conductor. Was that a joke Shadow?

"...as the feminine equivalent maestra denotes "schoolmistress".
04-06-2014, 04:50 PM #13
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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rofl.gif yes that was a joke US rofl.gif
04-06-2014, 05:06 PM #14
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-06-2014, 04:50 PM)Shadow Wrote:  rofl.gif yes that was a joke US rofl.gif

blink.gif coffeetime.gif Humour eludes me this morning.
04-06-2014, 09:45 PM #15
Octo Mother Superior
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(04-06-2014, 04:20 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  That's disturbing, in that, he is in the position of coach, of teacher, yet discriminates. I hope he's not the only "go to" conducting coach there, with that hateful attitude.

Actually more famous in this field are Leif Segerstam and Esa-Pekka Salonen to name a couple and at least Salonen hit back at that sort of sexism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Segerstam
He studied violin, piano and conducting at the Sibelius Academy in Helsinki and conducting at the Juilliard School in New York with Jean Morel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esa-Pekka_Salonen
a Finnish orchestral conductor and composer. He is currently Principal Conductor and Artistic Advisor of the Philharmonia Orchestra in London and Conductor Laureate of the Los Angeles Philharmonic.



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