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Just buy and read this Book for exposure of Lies
11-15-2015, 12:25 AM #16
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-14-2015, 11:25 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  
(11-14-2015, 04:22 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I was just watching Auschwitz survivors speaking about what they witnessed. What are we questioning here - numbers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Na...tion_camps

The list of camps is very long.

Also, the professor is not well respected.

Northwestern’s president at the time, Henry Bienen, responded with an email sent to all Northwestern students. He wrote, “While I hope everyone understands that Butz’s opinions are his own and in no way represent the views of the university or me personally, his reprehensible opinions on this issue are an embarrassment to Northwestern.”

60 members of Butz’s department at Northwestern signed a letter that read, according to a Daily Northwestern article, “Butz’s Holocaust denial is an affront to our humanity and our standards as scholars, and hence mandates our censure.”

The letter called for Butz to resign from the university, as it read, “We urge him to leave our Department and our University and stop trading on our reputation for academic excellence.”

http://newvoices.org/2011/11/30/0120-2/

and that's how it is with anything that refutes Mainstream Lies .

of course people are going to attempt to cover their ass with
politically correct statements .

as for Survivors statements , The trial documents PROVE that many LIED .

do not leave out Vengeance as motive to tell lies .

What Butz did , was delve into the documents created by the Nazi's ,the documents created by the Allies

and the Jewish Congress documents .

No one , not one single soul on the Planet , had made an attempt
to check those documents with an outsider objective view .

The World just sucked up whatever they were told , just took it as Gospel .

the World did not question the Story

Butz questioned the NUMBERS

and he bothered to spend his own time and money investigating

what he found , he copied from the actual documents and put those
in Book form .

If you read the book , then consider the material , Then I'll listen ,,,

otherwise you are as so many others have , just dogging the author without
reviewing the material .

People LIE , so he went for the documents .

you should read those documents.

every one who has a kid in school should read those documents

Sure, can you tell me if and where it is available for free? Just for the record, Stalin is reported to have killed 20 million, so 6 million killed is not so far fetched. And another thing, I do not dispute that lies and covert activities existed and still exist, I tend to believe eye witnesses because we all know some things witnessed are hard to believe.
11-15-2015, 01:18 AM #17
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Here you go Unique

the entire book on PDF for absolutely FREEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeee

here's the link to Achive.org which is a site a bunch of us Dead Heads started
way back when , to share our files on .

it's a freebie

http://archive.org/details/HoaxOfTheTwentiethCentury
11-15-2015, 03:20 AM #18
Octo Mother Superior
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Awesome. Thanks cheers.gif
11-15-2015, 11:13 AM #19
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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your welcome Octo

you can find much on archive.org

the book is 500 pages

gonna take time to read it

gonna take longer to let it soak in

it's a mind blower for sure

Knocks the lies i the dirt
11-15-2015, 03:12 PM #20
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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500 pages...thanks, I guess wtf2.gif I won't be able to apply my speed reading technique with this one because you want me to think about it afterwards. spock.gif I suppose a summary of key points is not available, or cheat sheets?
11-15-2015, 04:03 PM #21
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(11-15-2015, 03:12 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  500 pages...thanks, I guess wtf2.gif I won't be able to apply my speed reading technique with this one because you want me to think about it afterwards. spock.gif I suppose a summary of key points is not available, or cheat sheets?

He all ready gave you those.

chuckle.gif

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11-15-2015, 04:32 PM #22
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Rog, I am taking another route here and searching for reviews of this book by historians only because the author, not being an historian, leaves me wondering if his research may have been lacking in certain areas. As well, I find it difficult to open my mind to revision of these events because I would then have to deny all witness testimony that I have heard and read so far.

Interestingly, if we are addressing the numbers, the Jewish historian's comments below bring about more questions, such as were the numbers in question apart from those dying of disease or were included and not differentiated. If so, then the numbers are suspect.

"If Butz' views were really as meritless as his critics insist, Princeton University historian Arno Mayer would not have specifically cited The Hoax of the Twentieth Century as he did in his 1989 study, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The "Final Solution" in History. Prof. Mayer, who is Jewish, embraced some of the most important of the arguments made in Butz' revisionist study. He acknowledged, for example, that most of the Jews who died at Auschwitz were victims of typhus and other "natural" causes, not gas chambers. "From 1942 to 1945," wrote Mayer, "certainly at Auschwitz, but probably overall, more Jews were killed by so-called 'natural' causes than by 'unnatural ones'."

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n4p23_Weber.html

"Regarding the gas chambers at Auschwitz, Mayer writes:

"The Soviet archives may well yield significant clues and evidence when they are opened. In addition, excavations at the killing sites and in their immediate environs may also bring forth new information."

and

Mayer has been critical of the policies of the United States government. As a Marxist, he wrote a 2001 essay, stating that "since 1947 America has been the chief and pioneering perpetrator of 'preemptive' state terror, exclusively in the Third World and therefore widely dissembled."[10]

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Arno_J._Mayer

Do we know of any new information from the Soviet archives?
11-15-2015, 04:50 PM #23
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(11-15-2015, 04:32 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Rog, I am taking another route here and searching for reviews of this book by historians only because the author, not being an historian, leaves me wondering if his research may have been lacking in certain areas. As well, I find it difficult to open my mind to revision of these events because I would then have to deny all witness testimony that I have heard and read so far.

Interestingly, if we are addressing the numbers, the Jewish historian's comments below bring about more questions, such as were the numbers in question apart from those dying of disease or were included and not differentiated. If so, then the numbers are suspect.

"If Butz' views were really as meritless as his critics insist, Princeton University historian Arno Mayer would not have specifically cited The Hoax of the Twentieth Century as he did in his 1989 study, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The "Final Solution" in History. Prof. Mayer, who is Jewish, embraced some of the most important of the arguments made in Butz' revisionist study. He acknowledged, for example, that most of the Jews who died at Auschwitz were victims of typhus and other "natural" causes, not gas chambers. "From 1942 to 1945," wrote Mayer, "certainly at Auschwitz, but probably overall, more Jews were killed by so-called 'natural' causes than by 'unnatural ones'."

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n4p23_Weber.html

"Regarding the gas chambers at Auschwitz, Mayer writes:


"The Soviet archives may well yield significant clues and evidence when they are opened. In addition, excavations at the killing sites and in their immediate environs may also bring forth new information."

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Arno_J._Mayer

Do we know of any new information from the Soviet archives?

I read a while back that the largest part of the people that died in the camps did so in the latter part of the war when the Allies had cut off supplies. They supposedly starved to death because the Germans could not get food in.

I wasn't there. I can't say. Just remember, the winners of war write the history books.

Something else to look into is the treatment of the German soldiers after the war. I have heard recently that many of the German soldiers and civilian Nazi sympathizers were put into concentration camps and left there to die. I have not delved into this much at all yet so that is all I know.

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I am not your carpet ride I am the sky
I am not your blowing wind, I am the lightning
I am not your autumn moon, I am the night
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11-15-2015, 05:17 PM #24
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The untold story of Eisenhower's Rhine Meadows Death Camps - A Deliberate Policy of Extermination of the Surrendered German forces by the Allies in post war Germany (Rheinwiesenlager). Full documentary.



11-15-2015, 07:58 PM #25
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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" Because he's not a credited Historian "

did you know , that I as well am not credentialed , yet , I uncovered a lost
and hushed history of the americas

which now , the material I released is being used as Gospel by Media shows


odd how it works

a Man sits down , takes the evidence , compiles the facts

and because he has not 3 little initials behind his name on a document
from academia ,,,

his work is suspect .

I blew the professors away at UNM when I took them
into the Mountains showing them Ancient pre 1492 European Contact

THEN , they began to listen , two of which still email me asking
for Geo-Cords to more sites .

so , being that I have shared that scoff myself , I give Butz a hell
of a lot more credit then I do History books .
11-15-2015, 08:36 PM #26
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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I don't necessarily believe or disbelieve solely dependant on one's education, but discern for myself using facts and data pro and con.

As in this article, I would accept as fact the confessions of the two Germans, which match and that neither knew of the others' confession. But, again, what are we talking about here...numbers?

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american...ic-12.html
11-15-2015, 08:40 PM #27
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Torture will make you confess to anything , and Torture
of German prisoners did take place ,

that is covered in the Book with documentation
11-15-2015, 08:41 PM #28
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Not in the two cases/confessions in the post. Read it and be discerning.
11-16-2015, 02:03 AM #29
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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(11-15-2015, 08:41 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Not in the two cases/confessions in the post. Read it and be discerning.


BULLSHIT

70 years a lie has been shoved down our throats

pushed in ğkking SCHOOL BOOKS

FILLING CHILDREN'S HEADS WITH A LIE

just that ğkking simple

let two confess to eating snake shït

it does nothing to PROVE a lie is true
11-16-2015, 01:17 PM #30
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yup.gif

Excellent thread.

Consider this:

What better way to make forced "multiculture" unassailable?
What better way to make political correctness imposable?

Of bloody course the POO had to marry - very, very tightly -
the idea of BELONGING SOMEWHERE and RESPECTING THE SOIL
WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO FEED YOU to the Great European Trauma.
Otherwise no NWO, no OWG.

Bloody brilliant, though.
I'll never really know, whether Herr Hitler was our last chance...
or merely a useful idiot for our self-appointed Overlords.

Fekk...I'd give my (albeit useless chuckle.gif ) left arm to be a fly on
the wall at the inner circle meetings of those fancy elite think-tanks.
The psycho-socio-mathematical sliding scale equations must be
absolutely fascinating stuphph..!



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