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01-17-2013, 10:32 PM #1
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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http://orbitaldebris.jsc.nasa.gov/newsle...Nv17i1.pdf

Quote:…” However, it should be noted that, currently, no U.S. government entity has been assigned the task of removing existing on-orbit debris.

http://orbitaldebris.jsc.nasa.gov/Remedi...ation.html

It's been almost eight years from the initial study and...nil.

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Quote:The typical projection period in LEGEND is 100 years. Due to uncertainties involved in the process (e.g., future launch traffic, solar activity, explosions, collisions), conclusions are usually drawn based on averaged results from 100 Monte Carlo simulations.

http://orbitaldebris.jsc.nasa.gov/model/...tml#LEGEND

Future prediction of LEO debris reentry? Monte Carlo...crap shoot.

01-17-2013, 11:28 PM #2
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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hi5.gif Great thread! This is the elephant in the room that almost no one talks about, and for certain no one has done anything about it.
The attitude at the moment is what goes up will come down and HOPEFULLY 13.gif burn up on it's way.
As we know in a few cases this did not happen.
Ultimately this will become a huge threat to space travel, communications and of course, oops...too darn bad about those billion dollar classified satellites and associated space programs lol.

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01-18-2013, 12:22 AM #3
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Looks like the next generation engineers are right on top of this.

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[/quote]West Lafayette’s team was one of the 27 teams that qualified for the MIT finals via preliminary simulation contests. DevilTechEngineering sent a satellite controller package to the International Space Station, where it autonomously operated a real MIT/NASA SPHERES satellite in a micro-gravity environment to perform space debris removal and navigation tasks.[quote]


http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/west-...ompetition
01-18-2013, 12:43 AM #4
オタマジャクシ Member
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(01-17-2013, 11:28 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  hi5.gif Great thread! This is the elephant in the room that almost no one talks about, and for certain no one has done anything about it.
The attitude at the moment is what goes up will come down and HOPEFULLY 13.gif burn up on it's way.
As we know in a few cases this did not happen.
Ultimately this will become a huge threat to space travel, communications and of course, oops...too darn bad about those billion dollar classified satellites and associated space programs lol.


The problem is more complex than that.

1. The first real wake up call was the Iridium communications satellite smashed by an abandoned Russian satellite.

2. Then the China did an ASAT test on a satellite in high LEO.

3. Then the US did an ASAT test.

4. Now the Chinese are doing another test.

We have thousands of major pieces up there right now - most out of the atmospheric drag so it will take decades for them to burn up. There is currently a cloud of millimeter sized debris that pock marks any returned hardware.

There are two problems - eliminating the dead solders and cleaning up the dusty riffraff.

01-18-2013, 03:55 AM #5
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:15,064 Threads:428 Joined:Jun 2012
(01-18-2013, 12:43 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  
(01-17-2013, 11:28 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  hi5.gif Great thread! This is the elephant in the room that almost no one talks about, and for certain no one has done anything about it.
The attitude at the moment is what goes up will come down and HOPEFULLY 13.gif burn up on it's way.
As we know in a few cases this did not happen.
Ultimately this will become a huge threat to space travel, communications and of course, oops...too darn bad about those billion dollar classified satellites and associated space programs lol.


The problem is more complex than that.

1. The first real wake up call was the Iridium communications satellite smashed by an abandoned Russian satellite.

2. Then the China did an ASAT test on a satellite in high LEO.

3. Then the US did an ASAT test.

4. Now the Chinese are doing another test.

We have thousands of major pieces up there right now - most out of the atmospheric drag so it will take decades for them to burn up. There is currently a cloud of millimeter sized debris that pock marks any returned hardware.

There are two problems - eliminating the dead solders and cleaning up the dusty riffraff.


It doesn't have to be thought of as difficult, just haul that shït back to Earth.
01-18-2013, 05:19 AM #6
オタマジャクシ Member
Posts:1,310 Threads:32 Joined:Nov 2012
(01-18-2013, 03:55 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(01-18-2013, 12:43 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  
(01-17-2013, 11:28 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  hi5.gif Great thread! This is the elephant in the room that almost no one talks about, and for certain no one has done anything about it.
The attitude at the moment is what goes up will come down and HOPEFULLY 13.gif burn up on it's way.
As we know in a few cases this did not happen.
Ultimately this will become a huge threat to space travel, communications and of course, oops...too darn bad about those billion dollar classified satellites and associated space programs lol.


The problem is more complex than that.

1. The first real wake up call was the Iridium communications satellite smashed by an abandoned Russian satellite.

2. Then the China did an ASAT test on a satellite in high LEO.

3. Then the US did an ASAT test.

4. Now the Chinese are doing another test.

We have thousands of major pieces up there right now - most out of the atmospheric drag so it will take decades for them to burn up. There is currently a cloud of millimeter sized debris that pock marks any returned hardware.

There are two problems - eliminating the dead solders and cleaning up the dusty riffraff.


It doesn't have to be thought of as difficult, just haul that shït back to Earth.


Rounding up billions of BBs traveling at escape velocity is a real challenge.
01-18-2013, 05:27 AM #7
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:15,064 Threads:428 Joined:Jun 2012
(01-18-2013, 05:19 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  
(01-18-2013, 03:55 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(01-18-2013, 12:43 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  
(01-17-2013, 11:28 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  hi5.gif Great thread! This is the elephant in the room that almost no one talks about, and for certain no one has done anything about it.
The attitude at the moment is what goes up will come down and HOPEFULLY 13.gif burn up on it's way.
As we know in a few cases this did not happen.
Ultimately this will become a huge threat to space travel, communications and of course, oops...too darn bad about those billion dollar classified satellites and associated space programs lol.


The problem is more complex than that.

1. The first real wake up call was the Iridium communications satellite smashed by an abandoned Russian satellite.

2. Then the China did an ASAT test on a satellite in high LEO.

3. Then the US did an ASAT test.

4. Now the Chinese are doing another test.

We have thousands of major pieces up there right now - most out of the atmospheric drag so it will take decades for them to burn up. There is currently a cloud of millimeter sized debris that pock marks any returned hardware.

There are two problems - eliminating the dead solders and cleaning up the dusty riffraff.


It doesn't have to be thought of as difficult, just haul that shït back to Earth.


Rounding up billions of BBs traveling at escape velocity is a real challenge.


Indeed it is to future engineers in high school.



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