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Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
12-20-2013, 04:17 AM #46
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
So,,,think the Harvard grad Toni is going to the white house party this year???...

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12-20-2013, 04:30 AM #47
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
Until the Department of Health fixed the security hole last week, anyone could easily reset your Healthcare.gov password without your knowledge and potentially hijack your account.

Problem fixed.. and would have revealed no personal information except an email address ...as such is not stored on the website.

Link #1 MOOT

October 28, 2013:
Pre-fix and resulted in website crashing... no mention of it causing security vulnerability.
Link #2 MOOT

October 23, 2013: 9:41 AM ET
Again... pre-patch and these "experts" are looking at this site as if it is commercially run and not a government site that handles security differently.(see my post I copied from another thread below the fact sheet http://kritterbox.com/Thread-Lie-of-the-...#pid154180)

Link#3 MOOT

You acknowledge these are old problems but you still post them as if they are proof of something? ...these aren't just old but they are all pre-patch. None of those things are issues anymore.



This is all just fearmongering being promoted by the GOP to try and scare people away from signing up on the website.

(12-20-2013, 04:02 AM)Softy Wrote:  The Obamacare website has more than annoying bugs. A cybersecurity expert found a way to hack into users' accounts.

Until the Department of Health fixed the security hole last week, anyone could easily reset your Healthcare.gov password without your knowledge and potentially hijack your account.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/29/technolo...-security/

Obamacare 'hub' back online after malfunction

http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/27/news/oba...tml?iid=EL

To fix Obamacare website, blow it up, start over

http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/23/technolo...tml?iid=EL

yeah,,,I know,,,these are october,,,still,,,don't tell me everything is ok,,,

not what experts are saying...

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12-20-2013, 04:40 AM #48
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-20-2013, 04:08 AM)Softy Wrote:  Will you please quit with your subsidy stuff,,,

I get it,,,if the .gov/taxpayers/fedprinting pays for it all,,,


it doesn't cost anything,,,right,,,everybody gets that,,,

it all comes from the free money tree,,,

right,,,we are so much better off,,,

so,,,is anybody doing anything about the rising costs of healthcare???,,,

while playing these games...

(:X

Who do you think covers emergency care for the uninsured right now?

...that is not an insignificant amount. In fact all the experts say that is the absolutely worst and most expensive way to do it! ...yet they are obligated because there is moral obligation made law that hospitals can not deny emergency care.

How much do you think it costs the government when someone with no health insurance has something catastrophic happen to them? ...hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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12-20-2013, 04:48 AM #49
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
...oh. and also consider those without health insurance who contract some sort of disease and can't get health insurance because it's a pre-existing condition ...eventually they will get sick enough to require expensive emergency care. Probably many times before their death ...especially since they likely won't be able afford any kind of treatment short of prescription pain killers. That is bound to also rack up an enormous amount of cost burden that government takes on... probably more combined then a catastrophic accident would amount to.
12-20-2013, 05:22 AM #50
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-20-2013, 04:40 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-20-2013, 04:08 AM)Softy Wrote:  Will you please quit with your subsidy stuff,,,

I get it,,,if the .gov/taxpayers/fedprinting pays for it all,,,


it doesn't cost anything,,,right,,,everybody gets that,,,

it all comes from the free money tree,,,

right,,,we are so much better off,,,

so,,,is anybody doing anything about the rising costs of healthcare???,,,

while playing these games...

(:X

Who do you think covers emergency care for the uninsured right now?

...that is not an insignificant amount. In fact all the experts say that is the absolutely worst and most expensive way to do it! ...yet they are obligated because there is moral obligation made law that hospitals can not deny emergency care.

How much do you think it costs the government when someone with no health insurance has something catastrophic happen to them? ...hundreds of thousands of dollars.

actually I agree with this point,,,though it is not all hospitals,,,

but most,,,ingident care,,,spelled that wrong,,,anyway,,,

you are right,,,emergency room for a cold,,,or the flu,,,or whatever,,,

so,,,if that would save so much money,,,why not just use that money,,,

and cover the uninsured???,,,problem solved,,,why all this involvement

of everyone else???...

(:X
12-20-2013, 05:27 AM #51
Screaming Yellow Zonkers Member
Posts:2,706 Threads:265 Joined:Apr 2013
ObamaCare May Devastate the Real Estate and Travel IndustriesBy Stella Paul

Americans are among the most mobile people on earth, but ObamaCare may soon start freezing them in place. Millions are losing their health insurance policies and being forced onto the ObamaCare exchanges, where most plans only provide local medical coverage. As Americans realize they must pay for all non-emergency medical care when they leave their home county, their decisions may have a profound impact on the real-estate market, particularly the second home sector, and on the travel business.

I recently interviewed a woman I'll call Sue, whose story may become increasingly common. Sue, a 60-year-old retiree, and her husband bought a second home in South Carolina to escape the Connecticut winters. "I had a Blue Cross Blue Shield policy in Connecticut, and I used it with no problem in South Carolina. I found an internist and ophthalmologist and dermatologist down here, and kept the rest of my doctors up north."

"The price was reasonable. It cost me $450 a month, with a $2,500 deductible. It was slightly more for out of network; there was no co-pay, and I got my prescriptions filled in both states with no problem."

"Then I got the letter telling me that my policy would no longer exist, because it didn't comply with the new health care law. They wanted to transfer us into a new plan that doubled my premium to $900 a month. The deductible went up to $3,500, and it covered zero out of network." [...]

"My first worry was about Sloan-Kettering in New York, where I had surgery a few years back. If I needed cancer care there again, what would I do? Then I realized that if I wanted to see my South Carolina doctors, I'd have to pay out of pocket. That could wind up being extremely expensive, and that's money we hadn't budgeted for..."

Moreover, ObamaCare may soon start impacting access to emergency room care. [...]

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/m...ation.html
Edited to reflect 50% rule - JR

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12-20-2013, 05:31 AM #52
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
and what about Toni???,,,that is what really matters,,,

now isn't it???,,,it is Princeton not Harvard,,,my bad,,,well not really,,,

their bad...

Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website,,,

"Of course just being classmates doesn't really prove anything, after all Princeton is a big school, but the Whitley family spending Christmas with the Obama's in 2010 and getting their picture taken together... well that indicates a personal relationship. We took this screenshot directly from a public post made on Toni Townes-Whitley's facebook profile. The picture was uploaded on December 28th, 2010.

http://www.dailypaul.com/303587/michelle...re-website

I don't think all this has much to do with healthcare,,,

(:X
12-20-2013, 05:37 AM #53
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
"Toni Townes-Whitley, Princeton class of ’85, is senior vice president at CGI Federal, which earned the no-bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov. CGI Federal is the U.S. arm of a Canadian company."

The article goes on to detail further association that has led to this NEPOTISM which resulted in a NO BID CONTRACT being awarded.

explain how they could sole source this contract,,,

you can't,,,there is no explain,,,period,,,especially to a company

who can't make it work,,,can't make it safe...
12-20-2013, 05:39 AM #54
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-20-2013, 05:27 AM)MEDUSA Wrote:  Americans are among the most mobile people on earth, but ObamaCare may soon start freezing them in place. Millions are losing their health insurance policies and being forced onto the ObamaCare exchanges, where most plans only provide local medical coverage. As Americans realize they must pay for all non-emergency medical care when they leave their home county, their decisions may have a profound impact on the real-estate market, particularly the second home sector, and on the travel business.

I recently interviewed a woman I'll call Sue, whose story may become increasingly common. Sue, a 60-year-old retiree, and her husband bought a second home in South Carolina to escape the Connecticut winters. "I had a Blue Cross Blue Shield policy in Connecticut, and I used it with no problem in South Carolina. I found an internist and ophthalmologist and dermatologist down here, and kept the rest of my doctors up north."

"The price was reasonable. It cost me $450 a month, with a $2,500 deductible. It was slightly more for out of network; there was no co-pay, and I got my prescriptions filled in both states with no problem."

"Then I got the letter telling me that my policy would no longer exist, because it didn't comply with the new health care law. They wanted to transfer us into a new plan that doubled my premium to $900 a month. The deductible went up to $3,500, and it covered zero out of network." [...]

"My first worry was about Sloan-Kettering in New York, where I had surgery a few years back. If I needed cancer care there again, what would I do? Then I realized that if I wanted to see my South Carolina doctors, I'd have to pay out of pocket. That could wind up being extremely expensive, and that's money we hadn't budgeted for..."

Moreover, ObamaCare may soon start impacting access to emergency room care. [...]

Hi MEDUSA,,,quoted do I don't post around you...thanks for the support,,,wow,,,

and yeah the networks on this stuff is a whole nother issue...

(:X
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12-20-2013, 05:41 AM #55
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-20-2013, 05:31 AM)Softy Wrote:  and what about Toni???,,,that is what really matters,,,

now isn't it???,,,it is Princeton not Harvard,,,my bad,,,well not really,,,

their bad...

Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website,,,

"Of course just being classmates doesn't really prove anything, after all Princeton is a big school, but the Whitley family spending Christmas with the Obama's in 2010 and getting their picture taken together... well that indicates a personal relationship. We took this screenshot directly from a public post made on Toni Townes-Whitley's facebook profile. The picture was uploaded on December 28th, 2010.

http://www.dailypaul.com/303587/michelle...re-website

I don't think all this has much to do with healthcare,,,

(:X

My understanding is that there was only one bidder for the job...

Can't very well imply favoritism when there was only one company to choose from!
12-20-2013, 05:59 AM #56
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-20-2013, 05:41 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-20-2013, 05:31 AM)Softy Wrote:  and what about Toni???,,,that is what really matters,,,

now isn't it???,,,it is Princeton not Harvard,,,my bad,,,well not really,,,

their bad...

Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website,,,

"Of course just being classmates doesn't really prove anything, after all Princeton is a big school, but the Whitley family spending Christmas with the Obama's in 2010 and getting their picture taken together... well that indicates a personal relationship. We took this screenshot directly from a public post made on Toni Townes-Whitley's facebook profile. The picture was uploaded on December 28th, 2010.

http://www.dailypaul.com/303587/michelle...re-website

I don't think all this has much to do with healthcare,,,

(:X

My understanding is that there was only one bidder for the job...

Can't very well imply favoritism when there was only one company to choose from!

Oh yeah right,,,only one company wanted 678 million dollars to write

2 million dollars of software,,,you got a link for that???,,,cause there are

sure a lot of software companies saying they could have written it for

a lot less...

(:X
12-20-2013, 06:04 AM #57
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
According to a senior watchdog reporter at the Washington Examiner, federal officials only considered one firm to design the ObamaCare exchange website instead of putting the task up for competitive bidding.

Rather than open the contracting process to a competitive public solicitation with multiple bidders, officials in the Department of Health and Human Services’ Centers for Medicare and Medicaid accepted a sole bidder, CGI Federal, the U.S. subsidiary of a Canadian company with an uneven record of IT pricing and contract performance…

https://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/87150-w...eb-design/

(:X
12-20-2013, 06:21 AM #58
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
Posts:4,764 Threads:1,046 Joined:Jun 2012
(12-20-2013, 05:59 AM)Softy Wrote:  
(12-20-2013, 05:41 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-20-2013, 05:31 AM)Softy Wrote:  and what about Toni???,,,that is what really matters,,,

now isn't it???,,,it is Princeton not Harvard,,,my bad,,,well not really,,,

their bad...

Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website,,,

"Of course just being classmates doesn't really prove anything, after all Princeton is a big school, but the Whitley family spending Christmas with the Obama's in 2010 and getting their picture taken together... well that indicates a personal relationship. We took this screenshot directly from a public post made on Toni Townes-Whitley's facebook profile. The picture was uploaded on December 28th, 2010.

http://www.dailypaul.com/303587/michelle...re-website

I don't think all this has much to do with healthcare,,,

(:X

My understanding is that there was only one bidder for the job...

Can't very well imply favoritism when there was only one company to choose from!

Oh yeah right,,,only one company wanted 678 million dollars to write

2 million dollars of software,,,you got a link for that???,,,cause there are

sure a lot of software companies saying they could have written it for

a lot less...

(:X

You have to understand that everything on the internet against Bamacare is a GOP lie and everything that is in favor of it is the truth we know this cuz the .gov never lies.
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12-20-2013, 06:34 AM #59
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-20-2013, 05:59 AM)Softy Wrote:  
(12-20-2013, 05:41 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-20-2013, 05:31 AM)Softy Wrote:  and what about Toni???,,,that is what really matters,,,

now isn't it???,,,it is Princeton not Harvard,,,my bad,,,well not really,,,

their bad...

Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website,,,

"Of course just being classmates doesn't really prove anything, after all Princeton is a big school, but the Whitley family spending Christmas with the Obama's in 2010 and getting their picture taken together... well that indicates a personal relationship. We took this screenshot directly from a public post made on Toni Townes-Whitley's facebook profile. The picture was uploaded on December 28th, 2010.

http://www.dailypaul.com/303587/michelle...re-website

I don't think all this has much to do with healthcare,,,

(:X

My understanding is that there was only one bidder for the job...

Can't very well imply favoritism when there was only one company to choose from!

Oh yeah right,,,only one company wanted 678 million dollars to write

2 million dollars of software,,,you got a link for that???,,,cause there are

sure a lot of software companies saying they could have written it for

a lot less...

(:X
Rather than open the contracting process to a competitive public solicitation with multiple bidders, officials in the Department of Health and Human Services' Centers for Medicare and Medicaid accepted a sole bidder, CGI Federal, the U.S. subsidiary of a Canadian company with an uneven record of IT pricing and contract performance.

CMS officials are tight-lipped about why CGI was chosen or how it happened. They also refuse to say if other firms competed with CGI, or if there was ever a public solicitation for building Healthcare.gov, the backbone of Obamacare’s problem-plagued web portal.

Instead, it appears they used what amounts to a federal procurement system loophole to award the work to the Canadian firm.

CGI was one of 16 companies that had been qualified by HHS during President George W. Bush's second term to deliver, without public competition, a variety of hardware, software and communication products and services.

In awarding the Healthcare.gov contract, CMS relied on a little-known federal contracting system called ID/IQ, which is government jargon for “Indefinite Delivery and Indefinite Quantity.”

CGI was a much smaller vendor when it was approved by HHS in 2007. With the approval, CGI became eligible for multiple awards without public notice and in circumvention of the normal competitive bidding procurement process.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/feds-revie...le/2537194

Well, there ya go! Had to do a little digging... all I had heard was there was only one bidder but it appears it was never opened up to public bidder but rather picked from a list of companies established under the Bush regime that are somehow exempted from the bidding process.
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12-20-2013, 06:39 AM #60
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-20-2013, 06:04 AM)Softy Wrote:  According to a senior watchdog reporter at the Washington Examiner, federal officials only considered one firm to design the ObamaCare exchange website instead of putting the task up for competitive bidding.

Rather than open the contracting process to a competitive public solicitation with multiple bidders, officials in the Department of Health and Human Services’ Centers for Medicare and Medicaid accepted a sole bidder, CGI Federal, the U.S. subsidiary of a Canadian company with an uneven record of IT pricing and contract performance…

https://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/87150-w...eb-design/

(:X

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