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11-13-2014, 04:25 PM #31
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"How can i tell that my temper would have been as sweet or my companionship as agreeable if i had abjured from in my youth the goddess nicotine" - Winston Churchill

Who smoked continuously and lived until he was ninety years old > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill

İmage
11-13-2014, 04:33 PM #32
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Well whattaya know heres Barbara Streisand...

One of the most talented female voices to ever sing a song...

Smoking a Cigarette...

So much for demonizing smoke and smokers...

İmage
11-13-2014, 04:38 PM #33
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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What's in your e-cig and what food quality chemicals are alright for ingestion but not for inhalation?

http://gfn.net.co/downloads/2014/posters...0DA_AP.pdf
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11-13-2014, 04:47 PM #34
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(11-13-2014, 04:10 PM)misterbumps Wrote:  
(11-13-2014, 03:27 PM)failboat Wrote:  
(11-13-2014, 11:51 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  
(11-12-2014, 06:20 PM)misterbumps Wrote:  Interesting subject. I gave up cigarettes two years ago and replaced them with an electronic cigarette. (e-cig) I use a site called 'Totally Wicked' and they have the most amazing e-cigs and flavours. They are also very cheap, good quality and have constant offers that range from 5% to 45% discounts on most products. No, I don't work for them!
I found the transition from cigarettes to e-cigarettes extremely easy. It took a couple of months of trial and error to find the right e-cig but the one I currently use I have been using for at least eighteen months and it's fantastic in terms of throat hit and vapour.
Within three days of changing from cigarettes to an e-cig my chest pain cleared and my breathing improved dramatically. I was a fifty a day roll-up smoker and now I have no physical side effects from 'vaping.' All in all it has been a rather remarkable experience from improving health to saving money. I would recommend e-cigs to anyone wishing to give up. Also with e-cigs you can regulate the percentage of nicotine in the e-liquid. I started on 3% but am now down to 1.4% and hopefully within the coming months and years I can take the nicotine levels down to 0%. The website I buy from has a 0% nicotine herbal range which is what I'm eventually aiming for.

One negative is as e-cigs have only been around for ten years there have been no decent studies on them in terms of health benefits so I'm half expecting in a few years time studies will be conducted stating they are evil!! However my improved health from giving up cigarettes and moving to e-cigs is enough to convince me that I've moved in the right direction.

im a former chain smoker, that gets the urge every now and again to but a packet, smoke a couple, wet the rest and throw them in the bin until the next time.. i think e cigs are my next option, cause it seems a lot healthier and less expensive.. so many countries have banned them though.. UAE and Thailand wont let you bring in an e cig.. very odd..

roll your own cigs. tastes much better and there are less additives (if you buy a good brand). e cigs suck big time. i tried them a while - even different tastes - but it's just not the same. :/

As a heavy roll up smoker I needed to quit. I initially bought supermarket e-cigs which are rubbish in terms of effectiveness and cost. I spent a couple of months researching and trying different e-cigs from U.S and British companies until I found the right one. The one I use now is called EGo-C and is the go to device for many e-cig users. It has two voltage settings for strength, produces a solid amount of vapour and the throat hit is excellent. It does not look like a real cigarette and has no L.E.D light to mimic a cigarette but I wasn't interested in aesthetics. I was looking for something that did the job as close to the real thing as possible. I even have a pass through battery which means I can plug into a computer and charge up whilst still vaping. In ten years e-cigs have come a long way. I have friends who have tried e-cigs but struggle to give up the real ones so I guess it does not work for everyone. I just did the research and got lucky. The transition from cigarettes to e-cigs was an easy one for me. My suggestions if you want to give up cigarettes is research, research, research and then when it comes to E-liquid start on 1.8 per cent nicotine and over time decrease the level until a point when you may not need to use an e-cig any-more. That's what I've been doing and it's going well. I do understand how difficult it is to give up cigarettes. It is one of the worst addictions.

lol.gif stop shilling. chuckle.gif
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11-13-2014, 04:49 PM #35
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(11-13-2014, 04:17 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(11-13-2014, 03:46 PM)Cosmic August Wrote:  
(11-13-2014, 02:01 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  Aliens Don't Like to Eat People That Smoke! lol.gif It makes sense.
Ha haa haaa haaaa haaaa "No Smoking Onboard Flying Saucers" Ha haa haaa haaaa haaaaa (*-*)

Wonder if abductees are all non smokers?! or even all smokers?! cuz aliens might be here for our earthly tobacco and marijuana and booze...

Ha haa haaa haaaa haaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa (*=*)

13.gif I came across that article years ago and never thought about that. 13.gif

(11-13-2014, 03:31 AM)Shadow Wrote:  My sister's husband died of lung cancer seven years after he quit smoking. But funny thing is, his doctor said he got it from chemicals in 'Nam. Not tobacco. The gov also said his hearing loss wasn't from being a gunnery sgt. blink.gif and declined his application for hearing aids. The gov will lie to us from hell to breakfast.

Ever notice how it was at the height of US Industrial production that smoking was encouraged? They had doctors touting the health benefits in TV ads!

Then, as outsourcing increased and globalisation became more of a trend in the 80s, the crackdown on smoking started.

Coincidence? I don't think so. agent_smith.gif

True story: Hitler was one of the first to come up with a public health/anti-smoking campaign.

because he needed healthy aryans for his endlösung der judenfrage. chuckle.gif



11-13-2014, 04:59 PM #36
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Someone try and convince me that smoking damaged the voices of these guys?!

İmage

İmage
11-13-2014, 05:25 PM #37
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The way I see it is that the world is wrong about the "Stop Smoking" propoganda.

They should work on a harder effort to campain "Do Not Start Smoking"

I cannot scientifically tell about the real damage of smoking, but if one day smoking is obsolete, and no one else smokes I guess there will be no harm done.
I mean like "You never miss what you never had" so that would be easy.

But, for smokers like me, once they are addicted, I think that, while smoking can damage your health, quitting smoking can also damage your health in a different way.

That works on me and I am sure on others too. I've tried and tried to quit, I get nervous, stressed and inpatient which I feel are too much of a damage to my body.

I have friends who I meet occassionally once a week or every fortnight. They think they quit smoking, but as soon as we meet they ask for one and say "just to socialise". From the way they puff it, I can tell that they are living a difficult time.

And my father of 80 quit about 30 years ago, he likes to be known as a quitter, but I know that every now and then he goes down to his private cellar and smokes a cigarrette.

Now what kind of life is that?

“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” ― David Mitchell
11-13-2014, 05:31 PM #38
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,898 Threads:420 Joined:Jun 2012
(11-13-2014, 05:25 PM)Cloud Atlas Wrote:  The way I see it is that the world is wrong about the "Stop Smoking" propoganda.

They should work on a harder effort to campain "Do Not Start Smoking"

I cannot scientifically tell about the real damage of smoking, but if one day smoking is obsolete, and no one else smokes I guess there will be no harm done.
I mean like "You never miss what you never had" so that would be easy.

But, for smokers like me, once they are addicted, I think that, while smoking can damage your health, quitting smoking can also damage your health in a different way.

That works on me and I am sure on others too. I've tried and tried to quit, I get nervous, stressed and inpatient which I feel are too much of a damage to my body.

I have friends who I meet occassionally once a week or every fortnight. They think they quit smoking, but as soon as we meet they ask for one and say "just to socialise". From the way they puff it, I can tell that they are living a difficult time.

And my father of 80 quit about 30 years ago, he likes to be known as a quitter, but I know that every now and then he goes down to his private cellar and smokes a cigarrette.

Now what kind of life is that?

I suppose if I am lucky enough to get to live into my 80's I too won't worry too much about lighting up again now and then. Smoking for me was an enjoyable activity esp. with a cup of coffee or a shot of Canadian Club Whiskey and ginger ale...I miss the combined tastes and euphoric nicotine haze.
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11-13-2014, 05:46 PM #39
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(11-13-2014, 05:25 PM)Cloud Atlas Wrote:  The way I see it is that the world is wrong about the "Stop Smoking" propoganda.

They should work on a harder effort to campain "Do Not Start Smoking"

I cannot scientifically tell about the real damage of smoking, but if one day smoking is obsolete, and no one else smokes I guess there will be no harm done.
I mean like "You never miss what you never had" so that would be easy.

But, for smokers like me, once they are addicted, I think that, while smoking can damage your health, quitting smoking can also damage your health in a different way.

That works on me and I am sure on others too. I've tried and tried to quit, I get nervous, stressed and inpatient which I feel are too much of a damage to my body.

I have friends who I meet occassionally once a week or every fortnight. They think they quit smoking, but as soon as we meet they ask for one and say "just to socialise". From the way they puff it, I can tell that they are living a difficult time.

And my father of 80 quit about 30 years ago, he likes to be known as a quitter, but I know that every now and then he goes down to his private cellar and smokes a cigarrette.

Now what kind of life is that?

hmm.gif you're right... a "don't start smoking" campaign would be better.
11-13-2014, 05:50 PM #40
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Or how about a "Let The People Do What They F###en Want" campaign?!

Ooooops stupid me i almost forgot thats not how the two faced back stabbing elites like to operate and dominate and control...
11-13-2014, 08:06 PM #41
misterbumps Member
Posts:1,051 Threads:38 Joined:Apr 2012
(11-13-2014, 04:47 PM)failboat Wrote:  
(11-13-2014, 04:10 PM)misterbumps Wrote:  
(11-13-2014, 03:27 PM)failboat Wrote:  
(11-13-2014, 11:51 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  
(11-12-2014, 06:20 PM)misterbumps Wrote:  Interesting subject. I gave up cigarettes two years ago and replaced them with an electronic cigarette. (e-cig) I use a site called 'Totally Wicked' and they have the most amazing e-cigs and flavours. They are also very cheap, good quality and have constant offers that range from 5% to 45% discounts on most products. No, I don't work for them!
I found the transition from cigarettes to e-cigarettes extremely easy. It took a couple of months of trial and error to find the right e-cig but the one I currently use I have been using for at least eighteen months and it's fantastic in terms of throat hit and vapour.
Within three days of changing from cigarettes to an e-cig my chest pain cleared and my breathing improved dramatically. I was a fifty a day roll-up smoker and now I have no physical side effects from 'vaping.' All in all it has been a rather remarkable experience from improving health to saving money. I would recommend e-cigs to anyone wishing to give up. Also with e-cigs you can regulate the percentage of nicotine in the e-liquid. I started on 3% but am now down to 1.4% and hopefully within the coming months and years I can take the nicotine levels down to 0%. The website I buy from has a 0% nicotine herbal range which is what I'm eventually aiming for.

One negative is as e-cigs have only been around for ten years there have been no decent studies on them in terms of health benefits so I'm half expecting in a few years time studies will be conducted stating they are evil!! However my improved health from giving up cigarettes and moving to e-cigs is enough to convince me that I've moved in the right direction.

im a former chain smoker, that gets the urge every now and again to but a packet, smoke a couple, wet the rest and throw them in the bin until the next time.. i think e cigs are my next option, cause it seems a lot healthier and less expensive.. so many countries have banned them though.. UAE and Thailand wont let you bring in an e cig.. very odd..

roll your own cigs. tastes much better and there are less additives (if you buy a good brand). e cigs suck big time. i tried them a while - even different tastes - but it's just not the same. :/

As a heavy roll up smoker I needed to quit. I initially bought supermarket e-cigs which are rubbish in terms of effectiveness and cost. I spent a couple of months researching and trying different e-cigs from U.S and British companies until I found the right one. The one I use now is called EGo-C and is the go to device for many e-cig users. It has two voltage settings for strength, produces a solid amount of vapour and the throat hit is excellent. It does not look like a real cigarette and has no L.E.D light to mimic a cigarette but I wasn't interested in aesthetics. I was looking for something that did the job as close to the real thing as possible. I even have a pass through battery which means I can plug into a computer and charge up whilst still vaping. In ten years e-cigs have come a long way. I have friends who have tried e-cigs but struggle to give up the real ones so I guess it does not work for everyone. I just did the research and got lucky. The transition from cigarettes to e-cigs was an easy one for me. My suggestions if you want to give up cigarettes is research, research, research and then when it comes to E-liquid start on 1.8 per cent nicotine and over time decrease the level until a point when you may not need to use an e-cig any-more. That's what I've been doing and it's going well. I do understand how difficult it is to give up cigarettes. It is one of the worst addictions.

lol.gif stop shilling. chuckle.gif

LOL I had to look up what shilling meant.

shill
A person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his services.

I wish I could get paid for my services! Maybe I should speak to 'Totally Wicked?' I might get some free e-liquid at least!

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?
11-13-2014, 08:30 PM #42
misterbumps Member
Posts:1,051 Threads:38 Joined:Apr 2012
(11-13-2014, 04:38 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  What's in your e-cig and what food quality chemicals are alright for ingestion but not for inhalation?

http://gfn.net.co/downloads/2014/posters...0DA_AP.pdf

That was a really interesting article and one I'd not read before. I actually use e-liquid that is as close to tobacco flavour as possible. I've tried so many flavours but my favourite is still the one that taste like rolling tobacco. It is called Virginia and tastes like Golden Virginia - a brand of tobacco I always used to buy. The article was good though and it is so important that research is done on this newish of trends. I have tried apple, strawberry, lemon and lime, cola, aniseed, sherbet lemon, blackcurrant and liquorice, blueberry and a whole host of different flavours but for me they are too sickly sweet after a while and I rarely finish the bottle. Strawberry in particular was disgusting. I have my favourite now and just stick to that one.

I do think that these flavours seem marketable towards youngsters which I don't agree with. As I stated before I have continually lowered my nicotine level in my e-liquid over time and hopefully I will reach zero nicotine in a year or two and be done with it all. E-cigs are a great alternative to giving up if one does it the right way but sometimes I think the marketing for some companies aim their e-liquid products at the teen market and in that respect they are encouraging and enticing young people to try them and then obviously get them addicted to the nicotine. However the best thing is (as I stated before) is one gets to regulate the nicotine so quitting is easier than smoking because YOU control the nicotine levels.

So much to consider and it's great we have a forum to talk about this. It will be interesting to see more studies performed over the years. Every now and then I have a night of reading up on the latest events concerning e-liquids. For me it is a fascinating subject.

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?
11-13-2014, 11:21 PM #43
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
Posts:31,280 Threads:1,438 Joined:Feb 2011
Most smokers have quit a hundred times. I notice that after quitting for a few days, it's not so much the nicotine... I miss going through the motions.
Opening the tobacco, grabbing a paper and filter, putting in the tobacco, rolling, grabbing a lighter, lighting it up chuckle.gif
It's really strange.

wonder.gif
11-14-2014, 02:43 AM #44
misterbumps Member
Posts:1,051 Threads:38 Joined:Apr 2012
(11-13-2014, 11:21 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Most smokers have quit a hundred times. I notice that after quitting for a few days, it's not so much the nicotine... I miss going through the motions.
Opening the tobacco, grabbing a paper and filter, putting in the tobacco, rolling, grabbing a lighter, lighting it up chuckle.gif
It's really strange.

That is exactly what my issue was. It was the whole process not just the smoke. That's what I miss about building joints too.

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?



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