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Malaysian plane shot down over the Ukraine
07-18-2014, 12:37 AM #121
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VIDEO of plane coming down!




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07-18-2014, 12:44 AM #122
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Nice find.
At that point it was still intact.
Wonder how it broke apart to cover a 10 mile area?


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07-18-2014, 01:15 AM #123
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(07-17-2014, 08:51 PM)Gumby Wrote:  I think we may have a clue to what happened here:

Live: Rebel leader boasts of shooting down plane before MH17 reports




Quote:10.30 pm: Russia's rebel leader had boasted of having shot down plane

Reports suggest that a rebel leader in Russia had boasted of shooting down a plane right before reports of Malaysian flight MH17 appeared.

A website reports that "in a post on his VKontakte page, Russia's largest social media site, separatist leader Igor Girkin, aka Strelkov, wrote: "In the vicinity of Torez, we just downed a plane, an AN-26. It is lying somewhere in the Progress Mine. We have issued warnings not to fly in our airspace. We have video confirming. The bird fell on a waste heap. Residential areas were not hit. Civilians were not injured."

http://www.firstpost.com/world/live-rebe...23115.html


The Rebels may have thought this was a Ukrainian plane

"civilians were not injured"? in what twisted world does this mofo live?
07-18-2014, 01:22 AM #124
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(07-18-2014, 01:15 AM)failboat Wrote:  
(07-17-2014, 08:51 PM)Gumby Wrote:  I think we may have a clue to what happened here:

Live: Rebel leader boasts of shooting down plane before MH17 reports




Quote:10.30 pm: Russia's rebel leader had boasted of having shot down plane

Reports suggest that a rebel leader in Russia had boasted of shooting down a plane right before reports of Malaysian flight MH17 appeared.

A website reports that "in a post on his VKontakte page, Russia's largest social media site, separatist leader Igor Girkin, aka Strelkov, wrote: "In the vicinity of Torez, we just downed a plane, an AN-26. It is lying somewhere in the Progress Mine. We have issued warnings not to fly in our airspace. We have video confirming. The bird fell on a waste heap. Residential areas were not hit. Civilians were not injured."

http://www.firstpost.com/world/live-rebe...23115.html


The Rebels may have thought this was a Ukrainian plane

"civilians were not injured"? in what twisted world does this mofo live?

They thought they had shot down a Ukrainian Cargo plane is what I'm gathering.

No condoning any acts of War.

But this was an accidental downing of the wrong Airplane.


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07-18-2014, 01:23 AM #125
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Any one in here know anything about rigor mortis? Specifically the time it takes to set in. Coz in the Graphic Video link I posted there are a lot of corpses with "Rigor Mortis"!

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07-18-2014, 01:31 AM #126
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(07-18-2014, 01:23 AM)NODOOM Wrote:  Any one in here know anything about rigor mortis? Specifically the time it takes to set in. Coz in the Graphic Video link I posted there are a lot of corpses with "Rigor Mortis"!

depends on the temperature (the hotter the quicker). at room temperature it takes 14 to 18 hrs. stays up to 48 hrs.

but what we see isn't necessarily rigor mortis. burned skin and flesh can have a similar effect for example.
07-18-2014, 01:32 AM #127
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(07-18-2014, 01:31 AM)failboat Wrote:  
(07-18-2014, 01:23 AM)NODOOM Wrote:  Any one in here know anything about rigor mortis? Specifically the time it takes to set in. Coz in the Graphic Video link I posted there are a lot of corpses with "Rigor Mortis"!

depends on the temperature (the hotter the quicker). at room temperature it takes 14 to 18 hrs. stays up to 48 hrs.

but what we see isn't necessarily rigor mortis. burned skin and flesh can have a similar effect for example.

Thank you for that. :)

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07-18-2014, 01:32 AM #128
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Normally around 12 hours, but Temperatures leave a 1 or two hour variable


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07-18-2014, 01:33 AM #129
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(07-18-2014, 01:32 AM)Gumby Wrote:  Normally around 12 hours, but Temperatures leave a 1 or two hour variable

Like to hear your thoughts on the Video.

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07-18-2014, 01:37 AM #130
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(07-18-2014, 01:33 AM)NODOOM Wrote:  
(07-18-2014, 01:32 AM)Gumby Wrote:  Normally around 12 hours, but Temperatures leave a 1 or two hour variable

Like to hear your thoughts on the Video.

it's hard to stomach for persons who aren't used to this kind of stuff. i don't recommend anyone to watch it. :/
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07-18-2014, 01:54 AM #131
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dunno what to think about this. no matter who pays the rebels and supplies them with weapons - be it the russians or not - this situation is about to escalate. it seems like the "donors" are losing control over the rebels.
if ukraine loses control of national security it's only a matter of time until terrorists are able to get the materials needed for a dirty bomb.
one third of russia's nuclear arsenal remained in ukraine after it's independence.

god knows what can go wrong.
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07-18-2014, 02:10 AM #132
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(07-18-2014, 01:33 AM)NODOOM Wrote:  
(07-18-2014, 01:32 AM)Gumby Wrote:  Normally around 12 hours, but Temperatures leave a 1 or two hour variable

Like to hear your thoughts on the Video.


Im a ex Marine with 11 deployments so Im pretty much desensitized.

Most of what I saw was impact damage, like a fall from a tall building. Most bodies were still intact. Had a missile gone off inside the plane we wouldn't see this.

With everything I've seen so far today, I think the missile went through the right wing.

The plane stayed intact. ( as the video showed ) The fire on the wing caused the mid air Explosion ( debris field over 10 mile area ) and the rest is history.



Just my opinion.
07-18-2014, 02:13 AM #133
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(07-18-2014, 02:10 AM)Not Gumby Wrote:  
(07-18-2014, 01:33 AM)NODOOM Wrote:  
(07-18-2014, 01:32 AM)Gumby Wrote:  Normally around 12 hours, but Temperatures leave a 1 or two hour variable

Like to hear your thoughts on the Video.


Im a ex Marine with 11 deployments so Im pretty much desensitized.

Most of what I saw was impact damage, like a fall from a tall building. Most bodies were still intact. Had a missile gone off inside the plane we wouldn't see this.

With everything I've seen so far today, I think the missile went through the right wing.

The plane stayed intact. ( as the video showed ) The fire on the wing caused the mid air Explosion ( debris field over 10 mile area ) and the rest is history.



Just my opinion.

Thank you for that.

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07-18-2014, 02:36 AM #134
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This was in 1979 The plane was about to land and it clipped another plane a Cessna in mid air and the wing was damaged, Heres the result of that wing damage.

Date: 25 September 1978
Airline: Pacific Southwest AL
Flight No.: 182
Aircraft: B727-200
Location: San Diego, CA
Fatalities: 135:135+9

İmage


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Few more plane crash photos here:

http://www.pakwheels.com/forums/aircraft...-disasters


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07-18-2014, 02:59 AM #135
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Quote:The RIA-Novosti agency quoted rebel leader Alexander Borodai as saying talks were underway with Ukrainian authorities on calling a short truce for humanitarian reasons. He said international organizations would be allowed into the conflict-plagued region.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2014-07-1...er-ukraine


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