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Massachusetts Town Could Become Nation’s First Town To Ban All Tobacco Products
11-10-2014, 10:26 PM #16
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http://yle.fi/uutiset/kynttilan_polttami...an/5462952

http://www.hs.fi/terveys/a1383718801183

http://www.iltalehti.fi/terveys/20111204...1_tr.shtml

Actually, the anti-live candle campaign has already been underway for a while.

Sorry, no English links, all above in Finnish, but Octo can vouch for them
supporting my theory...

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11-10-2014, 10:36 PM #17
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Since we heard that they are banning smoking on outdoor children's playgrounds and outdoor patio bars here in Canada, my son and I had a discussion. He is agin it and I am for it, only because the second-hand smoke bothers others'. If the bar owners could think of some way to contain the smoke so I don't have to inhale it with my soup then I wouldn't care.
11-10-2014, 11:18 PM #18
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(11-10-2014, 04:54 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  hug.gif Good morning Shadow! What's really odd about tobacco is TPTB worries about people that use it.
I mean, seriously, they shove the GM frankenfood, aspartame, fluoride, anti depressants, and recommend eating from a food pyramid that's for the lining of industry pockets, and they worry about tobacco?
Fishy.

Hyvää iltaa JR chuckle.gif hug.gif

Exactly. Wtf is the gov so against when the poisons like vaccines are forced on us.
11-11-2014, 04:45 PM #19
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(11-10-2014, 10:36 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Since we heard that they are banning smoking on outdoor children's playgrounds and outdoor patio bars here in Canada, my son and I had a discussion. He is agin it and I am for it, only because the second-hand smoke bothers others'. If the bar owners could think of some way to contain the smoke so I don't have to inhale it with my soup then I wouldn't care.
Why demonize cigarette smokers while not demonizing alcohol drinkers?!

Because alcohol is a socially acceptable drug despite the fact that it also kills millions of people every year...

Mostly by horrific car crashes inflicted by drunk drivers all over the word slaughtering countless innocent people...

Along with rampant job loss and spousal and child abuse and rape and suicide and self destruction that alcohol consumption also unleashes...
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11-11-2014, 05:08 PM #20
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(11-10-2014, 10:36 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Since we heard that they are banning smoking on outdoor children's playgrounds and outdoor patio bars here in Canada, my son and I had a discussion. He is agin it and I am for it, only because the second-hand smoke bothers others'. If the bar owners could think of some way to contain the smoke so I don't have to inhale it with my soup then I wouldn't care.

did i just read "soup" and "bar" in the same sentence? lol.gif
11-11-2014, 05:17 PM #21
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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Well... second hand smoke is unpleasant especially while you're eating, but so are uncontrolled children. Can we ban noisy brats from the pub?

hmm.gif chuckle.gif

It's actually not that much of a problem. If you smoke, go to a bar that allows smoking, if you don't smoke go to a bar that doesn't.
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11-11-2014, 05:32 PM #22
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(11-11-2014, 05:17 PM)Shadow Wrote:  Well... second hand smoke is unpleasant especially while you're eating, but so are uncontrolled children. Can we ban noisy brats from the pub?

hmm.gif chuckle.gif

It's actually not that much of a problem. If you smoke, go to a bar that allows smoking, if you don't smoke go to a bar that doesn't.

i kinda miss the old days when i went to a bar left it in the morning and smelled like cold stale smoke and booze. :/
11-11-2014, 05:39 PM #23
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(11-11-2014, 05:32 PM)failboat Wrote:  i kinda miss the old days when i went to a bar left it in the morning and smelled like cold stale smoke and booze. :/

chuckle.gif those were the days. I was going to say I haven't been in a bar for I can't remember how long, but Octo JR and I visited one or two in Amsterdam rofl.gif
11-11-2014, 06:13 PM #24
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11-11-2014, 06:21 PM #25
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(11-11-2014, 05:39 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(11-11-2014, 05:32 PM)failboat Wrote:  i kinda miss the old days when i went to a bar left it in the morning and smelled like cold stale smoke and booze. :/

chuckle.gif those were the days. I was going to say I haven't been in a bar for I can't remember how long, but Octo JR and I visited one or two in Amsterdam rofl.gif

We did! beercheer.gif We haven't been to one since then though 13.gif

Usually they have a separate smokers section at bars and nightclubs here which are absolutely crammed with party people while the smoke free section is basically empty chuckle.gif
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11-11-2014, 06:30 PM #26
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(11-11-2014, 06:21 PM)Octo Wrote:  
(11-11-2014, 05:39 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(11-11-2014, 05:32 PM)failboat Wrote:  i kinda miss the old days when i went to a bar left it in the morning and smelled like cold stale smoke and booze. :/

chuckle.gif those were the days. I was going to say I haven't been in a bar for I can't remember how long, but Octo JR and I visited one or two in Amsterdam rofl.gif

We did! beercheer.gif We haven't been to one since then though 13.gif

Usually they have a separate smokers section at bars and nightclubs here which are absolutely crammed with party people while the smoke free section is basically empty chuckle.gif

persons who don't smoke usually don't party. too health conscious. chuckle.gif
11-12-2014, 08:29 AM #27
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-11-2014, 04:45 PM)Cosmic August Wrote:  
(11-10-2014, 10:36 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Since we heard that they are banning smoking on outdoor children's playgrounds and outdoor patio bars here in Canada, my son and I had a discussion. He is agin it and I am for it, only because the second-hand smoke bothers others'. If the bar owners could think of some way to contain the smoke so I don't have to inhale it with my soup then I wouldn't care.
Why demonize cigarette smokers while not demonizing alcohol drinkers?!

Because alcohol is a socially acceptable drug despite the fact that it also kills millions of people every year...

Mostly by horrific car crashes inflicted by drunk drivers all over the word slaughtering countless innocent people...

Along with rampant job loss and spousal and child abuse and rape and suicide and self destruction that alcohol consumption also unleashes...

The point is that people who drink alcohol don't infringe upon my enjoyment of eating food on an outdoor patio, unless they get so drunk that they spew.
11-15-2014, 08:06 AM #28
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I'm from Massachusetts, and I do not find it hard to believe that something as ridiculous as this, would happen in this state.
11-16-2014, 02:45 AM #29
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In America:

http://www.newsmax.com/US/heat-energy-wo...id/553372/

http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/the-epa-...l-09282013

In the EU:

http://notrickszone.com/2014/08/19/eu-en...s-in-2017/

The propaganda outlines:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...nment.html

The tobacco ban is just a piece of a bigger puzzle.
No more making open fire for the slave class.

Want a hot meal? -Take the chip!

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İmage

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11-17-2014, 06:31 AM #30
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(11-12-2014, 08:29 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(11-11-2014, 04:45 PM)Cosmic August Wrote:  
(11-10-2014, 10:36 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Since we heard that they are banning smoking on outdoor children's playgrounds and outdoor patio bars here in Canada, my son and I had a discussion. He is agin it and I am for it, only because the second-hand smoke bothers others'. If the bar owners could think of some way to contain the smoke so I don't have to inhale it with my soup then I wouldn't care.
Why demonize cigarette smokers while not demonizing alcohol drinkers?!

Because alcohol is a socially acceptable drug despite the fact that it also kills millions of people every year...

Mostly by horrific car crashes inflicted by drunk drivers all over the word slaughtering countless innocent people...

Along with rampant job loss and spousal and child abuse and rape and suicide and self destruction that alcohol consumption also unleashes...

The point is that people who drink alcohol don't infringe upon my enjoyment of eating food on an outdoor patio, unless they get so drunk that they spew.
Just that drunk drivers might crash into and kill people who are driving home from the restaurants that worry about smoke and not alcohol...

While we all are breathing in far worse chemicals and poisons continuously spawned and spewed from our industrialized neglect and decay...



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