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11-26-2012, 04:35 AM #16
オタマジャクシ Member
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(11-26-2012, 02:05 AM)Octo Wrote:  True, but consumers are starting to DEMAND better and cleaner products and producers can't really keep up. I have to get early on Tuesdays and Thursdays to the store to get the only milk I'll put in my coffee, which is the maximum fat organic kind, because they're always out. I told them to get more and they did but they still run out.

Farmers are being ƒükkêd over as it is and I think they'd rather get ƒükkêd over doing the right thing than not.


Foreign producers are squeezing USA food producer's profits. Go to the store and see how many apples and how much apple juice is made in China.

Farming is very competitive and the US subsidies go to the largest farmers and the corporate farms (like Conagra). This makes it tougher for smaller farmers.

When your choice is organic farming or putting food on the table - to most farmers with kids that's an easy choice even if it isn't a happy one.
11-26-2012, 04:47 AM #17
Octo Mother Superior
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Can't claim that I know what a US food store has to offer. Being in the EU myself there's enough ƒükkêd up stuff to go around.

The local farmers here had an awesome protest here just a couple of weeks ago. Food is so expensive in the stores and they get so little from their produce. They simply just put up a farmers market in the street and sold their stuff for the same price they do to the middle men. It was a most popular protest. Thousands of people standing in line to buy beef for €1.58/kilo. yay.gif

The agricultural policies in EU are as ƒükkêd up as can be. gaah.gif

edit to say: it's not EU's fault though, it's corporate interests as usual.
11-26-2012, 04:58 AM #18
オタマジャクシ Member
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(11-26-2012, 04:47 AM)Octo Wrote:  Can't claim that I know what a US food store has to offer. Being in the EU myself there's enough ƒükkêd up stuff to go around.

The local farmers here had an awesome protest here just a couple of weeks ago. Food is so expensive in the stores and they get so little from their produce. They simply just put up a farmers market in the street and sold their stuff for the same price they do to the middle men. It was a most popular protest. Thousands of people standing in line to buy beef for €1.58/kilo. yay.gif

The agricultural policies in EU are as ƒükkêd up as can be. gaah.gif

edit to say: it's not EU's fault though, it's corporate interests as usual.


The favorite example of how much the farmer gets paid is a box of cornflakes. The Cereal company pays more for the box than they pay the farmer for the corn that goes into the cereal.
11-26-2012, 05:23 AM #19
Octo Mother Superior
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It's a sad state of affairs. It's pretty obvious something's got to go. It sure as hell isn't the farmers or the people, because there's actually nothing stopping people from going to the farms to buy food. In fact, that phenomenon increased so much here these past few years that some farms had to limit it to specific days to do business.

edit to say: I live in farm country though so I guess it's not so easy in the city.
11-26-2012, 06:40 AM #20
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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I live in the heart of ranching country, the Gang Ranch (once the largest in the world with 1 million acres) is a couple hours from here but our former mayor (may his soul rot in hell) opened a 'M&M' meat shop that sells Brazilian beef. emo-daj.gif My next door neighbor is a rancher, they run maybe 200 head, I can buy their meat (and i do) cut and wrapped for $4/lb that's ALL cuts, from ground beef to porterhouse. But the supermarkets, extracting shopping dollaras from ranching community consumers, are selling beef from Brazil. The former mayor of this town is selling beef from Brazil lmao.gif

I don't get how dumb people are chuckle.gif
11-26-2012, 02:53 PM #21
shagee Member
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(11-26-2012, 04:47 AM)Octo Wrote:  Can't claim that I know what a US food store has to offer. Being in the EU myself there's enough ƒükkêd up stuff to go around.

The local farmers here had an awesome protest here just a couple of weeks ago. Food is so expensive in the stores and they get so little from their produce. They simply just put up a farmers market in the street and sold their stuff for the same price they do to the middle men. It was a most popular protest. Thousands of people standing in line to buy beef for €1.58/kilo. yay.gif

The agricultural policies in EU are as ƒükkêd up as can be. gaah.gif

edit to say: it's not EU's fault though, it's corporate interests as usual.


I also can't claim. because It was a most notorious dissent. Many folks standing in line to purchase hamburger for €1.58/kilo.... certainly ...
11-26-2012, 03:03 PM #22
Octo Mother Superior
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How are the food prices where you live Shagee? wave.gif
11-26-2012, 05:28 PM #23
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(11-26-2012, 10:31 AM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  The PROBLEM ,,,,,,,,,,

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everything you can ,,,, buy it used


do not buy any NEW products



Glean as much as you can


keep your money OUT of the reach of Manufacturers as much as possible


Totally agree CA, I've been voting with my wallet for years. If people quit buying useless crap corps would change their ways, but they don't, in fact they go and fight over the useless crap rofl.gif
11-26-2012, 05:50 PM #24
Octo Mother Superior
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True dat. Even think they SAVE money by buying 3 for the price of 2 offer for some bullshit crap. lmao.gif
11-26-2012, 05:59 PM #25
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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hug.gif morning Octo

Sorta boggles the mind chuckle.gif
11-26-2012, 06:12 PM #26
Octo Mother Superior
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Morning sunshine hug.gif

Yes it's pretty crazy. 13.gif But I'm glad to see though the thrift stores have increased their customer base enormously around here. beercheer.gif
11-26-2012, 07:22 PM #27
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-25-2012, 11:43 PM)Octo Wrote:  And that's also entirely depending on where you are and the soil conditions are locally. In this profit centered society it would just be too expensive for the individual farmer to have his/her soil tested every year. They're struggling as it is.

Good thing though is increasingly more farmers over here are switching over to organic farming. cheers.gif


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Companion farming may be the right approach for subsistence farmers to follow. I know this is the approach I would take if I wanted to start a small food crop.

http://secret-garden-club.blogspot.ca/20...anion.html

11-27-2012, 07:21 AM #28
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(11-24-2012, 06:57 PM)yankees Wrote:  Most evil company ever.
close but nope nabisco is why? cause of how they over work andunder pay those poor keebler elves

Beware of the booger eater he'snot full uhoh.gif
11-27-2012, 11:00 AM #29
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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chuckle.gif Poor elves living in a hallow tree baking snack crackers. What an awful life.

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12-24-2012, 03:38 AM #30
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Russia Bans Use and Import of Monsanto’s GMO Corn ...
Published: Thursday 27 September 2012

İmage

Following the groundbreaking French study that graphically linked the lifetime consumption of Monsanto’s GMO corn in rats to massive tumors and direct organ failure, Russia’s premiere consumers rights organization has suspended both the importation and use of Monsanto’s GMO corn within the nation’s borders.

The move may soon be echoed by other nations, who may soon be urged by France to ban Monsanto’s GMOs due to serious health concerns. France, who also recently upheld a key ban on growing GMOs, has been instrumental in alerting the world to the dangers of GMOs and Monsanto’s overall corruption. In the nation’s latest announcement, it was revealed that France’s Agriculture Minister was launching an investigation into the GMO study, ultimately calling for European authorities to ban Monsanto’s GMOs in order to protect citizens in the event that the study was found to be sound.

It seems that France has become somewhat of a consumer health watchdog in more than just one area, simultaneously tackling the issue of pesticide contamination as well. It was even announced that the French government was seeking to ban crop dusters in all areas possible, aiming to reduce the amount of obesity-linked pesticides within the food supply.

Monsanto Still Clinging to Old GMO Mantra

Meanwhile, Monsanto is continuing to stick to its tired statements regarding the ‘safety’ of its GMO crops and Roundup herbicide. Instead of discussing not only the French study finding that the company’s GMOs led to horrendous tumors that led to rats literally dragging them along the ground as they walked, they claim that the information ‘does not warrant’ any concern at all from European officials. Just as Monsanto (and the US government) ignored evidence linking Roundup to DNA damage and infertility, it appears they intend to do it once more and hope that it all goes away.

Unfortunately for Monsanto, it’s not going away this time.

With Russia now acting to secure food safety, many other nations will surely follow. While the United States may continue to ignore the issues surrounding GMOs and Monsanto’s blatant disregard for human health (they were caught running ‘slave-like’ working rings, after all), many foreign nations will not. Countries like Poland, Peru, and Hungary have already taken action in banning or removing Monsanto’s GMO crops. And even in the United States grassroots movements have spawned bills like Proposition 37 – the monumental bill in California that seeks to label GMOs.

http://newstrust.net/stories/8936630/toolbar?ref=tp

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