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Mysterious Voynich manuscript has 'genuine message'
06-24-2013, 06:36 PM #16
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(06-24-2013, 05:21 PM)Jessica6. Wrote:  
(06-24-2013, 02:13 PM)Octo Wrote:  Well, I do recognize some of the plants, or at least I think I do. Heck, if experts haven't been able to explain it for so many years I don't expect us to be able to do so either.

Maybe whoever wrote it is bad at drawing plants? hmm.gif

Well, they had the calligraphy mastered. chuckle.gif

06-25-2013, 05:52 AM #17
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Her hands are not being ground up

she is placing plants in the press or grinder to make
a beauty bath solution for rejuvenation of the skin

and perhaps as an herbal bath for afflictions .

The book is probably the record of a persons experiments
in herbal healing .

it is most likely coded to keep the CHURCH from knowing what
it is ,,, so the author would not be burned at the stake .

or to keep the concoctions secret so they are not pilfered
and sold by a scum bag plagiarist .

Due to the style of the Calligraphy I would say the author
was schooled in the Hebrew schooling of that time .

not many people outside of Royals , Elites and religious
had schooling

with exception of some of the wealthy Hebrew Children
who had their own schooling privately usually
provide by their Rabi and their church .

06-25-2013, 05:56 AM #18
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this may help

hold the book against your chest with the open pages pointed
at a mirror in front of you .

try reading it that way

known as mirror maps
many old maps were drawn in that manner .

so the text is transverse
06-25-2013, 06:14 AM #19
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in the bold text he is using some of the Hebrew characters
mixed in

these are not letters like " a-b-c-d-e "

these are symbols and make an entire word and in
combo with a couple of them can make a sentence .
06-25-2013, 06:18 AM #20
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got to say it

it is a recipe

8 oz of something
mixed with 80 oz of another

the vegetable is being steamed

this is a recipe for herbal medicines
06-25-2013, 06:32 AM #21
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well i guess i should have watched the video

the lady points out what i just said lmao.gif
06-25-2013, 11:10 AM #22
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(06-25-2013, 06:32 AM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  well i guess i should have watched the video

the lady points out what i just said lmao.gif

I wonder if the author was a woman?
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06-25-2013, 11:59 AM #23
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(06-25-2013, 06:32 AM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  well i guess i should have watched the video

the lady points out what i just said lmao.gif

06-25-2013, 07:43 PM #24
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yeah I wondered if it was a woman too

i seldom watch the videos posted unless they are really
short ones chuckle.gif

whoever it was had an education , and a good one .

like a Monk who studied ( what's the word , etymology ? )
ancient writing .

or ,,,,
they may have had to create their own symbolic writing
for whatever reason .

I love this kind of stuff though .
i like trying to crack cryptic stuff .

thanks for posting this
06-25-2013, 08:14 PM #25
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If you recall Rog', Burish claimed to have cracked it and discovered the "ganish particle" along the way. chuckle.gif I never really bought that.
However, if you want to take a good look at the whole thing you can download a PDF of it here: http://ia700305.us.archive.org/6/items/T...script.pdf
It's pretty big so it'll take a bit to download.
I'd love to hear your take on it.

06-25-2013, 08:52 PM #26
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that is big

not on this small note book i use chuckle.gif

my bones can't haul that big Sony vaio of mine around
anymore .
it's on the boat

I used to do this pen and pencil art

one contiuous line made the sketch

and this persons art reminds me of it

same with the text , like it is two words connected one
over the other
and if you flip it upside down it makes a second word

or transverse the character backwards or upside down

like the title on the page

if you look at that text for a while , and not try to read it

but just see it as a pattern or template or whatever
i am trying to say

it begins to almost have an overlay of words in each
character .

scratch my head a bit then sleep and it may come to me

who knows .
06-25-2013, 08:59 PM #27
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I am seeing Latin and Hebrew words combined in the sentence
plus this person uses a symbol in the title that
looks like a symbol for a plant

note the second character

first character is A

then second is the symbol for plant

3rd and forth denote the type or name of the plant

to be placed in an Urn , then a chemical or alchemical symbol
for the additive to be mixed in with the vegetation


yeah , this is WORK , i can see that right now .
06-25-2013, 09:08 PM #28
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chuckle.gif Yes it is. I've poured through it several times, and basically came to a similar conclusion as yourself.
It's a guide on herbal mixtures and remedies. Given the circumstances of the day - when that was looked upon by the church as being in league with the Devil, It's no wonder they encoded it.
Nostradamus did the same thing with the Quatrains.
Sadly, we all have the identical situation now. Any sensitive info needs to be encrypted or the modern "church" of the NSA will read it and accuse you of witchcraf...err terrywrism. chuckle.gif
The more that things change, the more they stay the same and in the immortal words of Mel Brooks, the inquisition is here to stay.

06-25-2013, 09:11 PM #29
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Old testament : King Solomons Temple built by Hiram

and Hiram built a Bath

and four bulls made of gold held up the bath

and as a border around the edge of the bath he
made Pomegranates of gold and placed them there

The picture is almost to me a representation of that bath built
for King Solomons Temple .

What property Pomegranates have ,,, especially when processed
in a container made of gold
or steamed or squeezed and heated

I have no idea

when i read about that bath and the symbols used at the temple

I wondered what The Pomegranates had for symbolic
importance ,,,

I have never discovered the importance of the pomegranates
to Solomon ,,, why they were used in the Holy Temple .

Hiram was an Artisan of King Hiram of the Phoenicians

on loan to King Solomon for the designing and building
of the Temple

He was the Architect and a master of using Sacred geometry
in building .

Why the Pomegranates though ?
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06-25-2013, 09:39 PM #30
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(06-24-2013, 04:36 PM)Elphinstone Wrote:  
(06-24-2013, 03:20 PM)Octo Wrote:  Some seriously strange going on in some of those pics. damned.gif


Yes very strange. I see it a perverse statement

She has both hands in a meat grinder. I see to the under left side of her the word x as in kiss and hug plainly. The rest maybe part of a recipe.

I'm looking through a large magnifying glass. Very strange. More of a lost soul of 14 century magik

That plant in the Top right looks like Hops? This is a Beer recipe beercheer.gif



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