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Mystery hole in the clouds over California
05-12-2014, 11:19 PM #1
Octo Mother Superior
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What the hell is it? 13.gif

A strange cloud formation that hovered above Southern California on Friday afternoon had social media users wondering if the truth really is out there...above a Stockton high school

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Read about it and check out more pics at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...g-UFO.html
05-12-2014, 11:23 PM #2
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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I saw a hole in the clouds like that here in Ontario, last Fall. I just put it down to circulating air and different densities. dunno.gif
05-12-2014, 11:37 PM #3
Octo Mother Superior
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Did you see any light emanating from it?
05-12-2014, 11:48 PM #4
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Could be natural phenomenon, however, the shade of that light... the nearly cyan color, looks out of place. Weather phenomenon should not cause an intense point of light such as seen here.
California has had a lot of quake activity recently, so it could well be associated with the poorly understood earthquake lights phenomena people report and document.
This was filmed 30 minutes prior to the 2008 Sichuan earthquake in China and many are examples are available.

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05-12-2014, 11:52 PM #5
Octo Mother Superior
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Was there a quake after this was taken on Friday afternoon? Gumby? 13.gif
05-13-2014, 12:03 AM #6
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(05-12-2014, 11:37 PM)Octo Wrote:  Did you see any light emanating from it?

I seem to recall it (circle/hole) was lighter than the surrounding clouds because it caught my eye immediately.
05-13-2014, 12:14 AM #7
Octo Mother Superior
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Interesting. I would like to see some strangeness in the sky sometime as long as it's not a space rock hurtling towards me. damned.gif
05-13-2014, 12:23 AM #8
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I think that flying saucers are time machines but they may also be the ghosts of real flying machines that once traversed the skies of earth long before humans arrived?!

But then again maybe we are seeing and encountering various types of interdimensional craft that are being piloted and or remotely guided and or robotically flown into our reality from another universe?!

While some other ufo and flying saucer theories suggest the mind blowing possibility that they are actually ancient ultra advanced atmospheric life forms,possibly bioluminescent plasma,or maybe the ghosts of them,the true dominant species of earths biosphere with the astounding and highly evolved ability to telepathically transform their appearance while telekinetically morphing themselves into various shapes and sizes and disguises adhering and conforming to whatever beliefs and customs that are being practiced and believed by the people from different time periods who happen to be witnessing and encountering them on earth like wow damn what the f##ks going on?! > http://socyberty.com/paranormal/the-atmo...m-concept/
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05-13-2014, 12:39 AM #9
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(05-13-2014, 12:23 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  I think that flying saucers are time machines but they may also be the ghosts of real flying machines that once traversed the skies of earth long before humans arrived?!

But then again maybe what we are seeing is some type of inter-dimensional craft that are piloted or remotely guided or robotically flown into our reality from another universe?!

Some other ufo and flying saucer theories suggest the mind blowing possibility that they are actually some form of ancient super advanced atmospheric life forms,possibly bioluminescent plasma,or maybe the ghosts of them,the true dominant species of earth who are able to telekinetically transform their appearance and telepathically morph themselves into various shapes and sizes and disguises conforming to whatever beliefs and customs and time periods that happen to be practice by those witnessing them on earth > http://socyberty.com/paranormal/the-atmo...m-concept/

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05-13-2014, 12:59 AM #10
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Just wanted to re-post this because i re-wrote it (*-*)

I think that flying saucers are time machines but they may also be the ghosts of real flying machines that once traversed the skies of earth long before humans arrived?!

Then again maybe we are seeing and encountering various types of highly advanced inter-dimensional craft that are being piloted and driven by real living entities from some other world and or we are seeing and encountering highly advanced machines remotely guided and or robotically flown to our planet from another galaxy and or remotely guided and or robotically flown into our reality from another universe?!

While some other ufo and flying saucer theories suggest the mind blowing possibility that they are actually ancient ultra advanced atmospheric life forms,possibly bioluminescent plasma,or maybe the ghosts of them,the true dominant species of earths biosphere with the astounding and highly evolved ability to telepathically transform their appearance while telekinetically morphing themselves into various shapes and sizes and disguises adhering and conforming to whatever beliefs and customs that are being practiced and believed by the people from different time periods who happen to be seeing and encountering them on earth like wow damn whats going on?! > http://socyberty.com/paranormal/the-atmo...m-concept/
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05-13-2014, 01:05 AM #11
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(05-12-2014, 11:48 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Could be natural phenomenon, however, the shade of that light... the nearly cyan color, looks out of place. Weather phenomenon should not cause an intense point of light such as seen here.
California has had a lot of quake activity recently, so it could well be associated with the poorly understood earthquake lights phenomena people report and document.
This was filmed 30 minutes prior to the 2008 Sichuan earthquake in China and many are examples are available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMTSDzU1Z4

those strange light phenomena have been witnessed by many people around the globe for hundreds of years shortly before earthquakes.
05-13-2014, 02:01 AM #12
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It's interesting how eclectic they are, from UFO like orb like lights that move, to rainbow like lights.

There are a few theories on the origins, but it remains mysterious.

"The most recent model suggests that the generation of earthquake lights involves the ionization of oxygen to oxygen anions by breaking of peroxy bonds in some types of rocks by the high stress before and during an earthquake.

After the ionization, the ions travel up through the cracks in the rocks. Once they reach the atmosphere these ions can ionize pockets of air, forming plasma that emits light.

Lab experiments have validated that some rocks do ionize the oxygen in them when subjected to high stress levels. Research suggests that the angle of the fault is related to the likelihood of earthquake light generation, with subvertical (nearly vertical) faults in rifting environments having the most incidences of earthquake lights."

The lights existence were commonly challenged by officials, " it was not until photographs were taken during the Matsushiro earthquake swarm in Nagano, Japan (which occurred from 1965 through 1967) that the seismology community acknowledged their occurrence."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_light

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05-13-2014, 02:19 AM #13
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Just looks too condensed and localized and coalesced to be ball lightning or ionized air and it seems to be really massive and is there a video of this weird phenomena appearing into view and then fading away and disappearing so we could get a better understanding of what it might be or is there only photos?!
05-13-2014, 02:31 AM #14
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Have a look at this...

A fallstreak hole, also known as a hole punch cloud, punch hole cloud, skypunch, canal cloud or cloud hole, is a large circular or elliptical gap that can appear in cirrocumulus or altocumulus clouds. Such holes are formed when the water temperature in the clouds is below freezing but the water has not frozen yet due to the lack of ice nucleation particles (see supercooled water). When ice crystals do form it will set off a domino effect, due to the Bergeron process, causing the water droplets around the crystals to evaporate: this leaves a large, often circular, hole in the cloud.[1]

It is believed that the introduction of large numbers of tiny ice crystals into the cloud layer sets off this domino effect of evaporation which creates the hole. The ice crystals can be formed by passing aircraft which often have a large reduction in pressure behind the wing- or propellor-tips. This cools the air very quickly, and can produce a ribbon of ice crystals trailing in the aircraft's wake. These ice crystals find themselves surrounded by droplets, grow quickly by the Bergeron process, causing the droplets to evaporate and creating a hole with brush-like streaks of ice crystals below it. The articles by Westbrook and Davies (2010)[2] and Heymsfield et al. (2010) [3] explain the process in more detail, and show some observations of their microphysics and dynamics. Such clouds are not unique to any one geographic area and have been photographed from many places.

Because of their rarity and unusual appearance, as well as very little exposure in media, fallstreak holes are often mistaken for or attributed to unidentified flying objects.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallstreak_hole

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05-13-2014, 02:41 AM #15
Octo Mother Superior
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(05-13-2014, 02:19 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Just looks too condensed and localized and coalesced to be ball lightning or ionized air and it seems to be really massive and is there a video of this weird phenomena appearing into view and then fading away and disappearing so we could get a better understanding of what it might be or is there only photos?!

Read the article I linked to in the original post. They say it's a fallstreak hole as JR described, but the light shouldn't be there, or is it just a trick of the eye, or lens?

Quote:For the Fallstreak hole to begin, cirrocumulus or altocumulus must contain super-cooled water which cannot freeze without a tiny particle to first cling to.

Scientific opinion as to what finally causes the ice to form and begin to crystallize in the atmosphere has only solidified in recent years as meteorologists have become more certain that airplanes flying through the clouds start the process.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...g-UFO.html

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