(06-12-2013, 10:09 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:(06-12-2013, 09:30 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:(06-11-2013, 02:19 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote: Snowden = fraud! Don't be fooled people - this is still the "magician's hand" trying to deflect us from the truth or seeing what is REALLY going on!
You want proof - here you go:
An individual with Snowden's security clearance is NOT allowed to leave the country without approval. How is it that this guy ended up in Hong Kong without some sort of alarm being set off that he was on a flight out of the country? FAIL!!!
Did he release anything REALLY scathing? No, the defense is/was that Congress knew about it, the president was aware of it and a court (the FISA court) was "OK" with it. So, I ask you, "What exactly 'illegal' was done here - immoral, unConstitutional - yes - but, is anybody on there way to jail for it? Rhetorical question - the answer is: NOBODY is on there way to jail for the stuff that was "leaked" about!
Sure he can under two conditions: 1)He wasn't working under his given name. 2)He had a passport for his actual identity and traveled with that one.
You can travel to other countries with a clearance but you won't be able to maintain it if it wasn't mandated for your job. If he had 'diplomatic cover' (if his story is to be believed) he almost certainly worked under an alias with another passport because all embassy employees are under a microscope internationally.
Does his "alias" have credit cards? He needed to pay for airline tickets and hotel and food. What do you think he paid with - blood? He couldn't travel to China without setting off some alarm? How is it that he can travel to China and not be discovered? He had to buy tickets. If he bought them on-line there would/should be alarms kicked off. Isn't that the crux of what he was "leaking" - that everything is being watched? How can you report that "everything" is being watched, and yet he can fly under the radar and get to Hong Kong without being noticed? The story is a plant!
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Does anybody REALLY buy the line that some tech. weenie had some model/dancer girlfriend...and that he left her in HAWAII???? At least in the movies the "hot" chick goes with the "traitor." Sorry, I do not believe the "tech guy" had a model/dancer girlfriend. I myself work with tech. and I find it VERY hard to believe this alleged geek had such a beautiful girlfriend. That too does not add up!
If he worked under an assumed name for that contractor that booked the nsa contract he wouldn't have raised any red flags traveling with his personal (in his birth name) identity/credit cards/etc. End of story.
Maybe people don't understand what contractors do. They are contractual employees; whatever it says in the contract is what governs. I don't know about a cleared contractor but when I was working the nda was only 6 months and even then it was basically an anti-compete clause. The security rules/penalties are much different for contractors vs. federal employees.
His contract would be with booz, not the government. What he can/can't do is governed by that contract because he'd be an at-will contracted employee. Doesn't mean he's a real person but it's possible that he is.