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Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive
07-31-2014, 10:15 PM #1
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Nasa is a major player in space science, so when a team from the agency this week presents evidence that "impossible" microwave thrusters seem to work, something strange is definitely going on. Either the results are completely wrong, or Nasa has confirmed a major breakthrough in space propulsion.

British scientist Roger Shawyer has been trying to interest people in his EmDrive for some years through his company SPR Ltd. Shawyer claims the EmDrive converts electric power into thrust, without the need for any propellant by bouncing microwaves around in a closed container. He has built a number of demonstration systems, but critics reject his relativity-based theory and insist that, according to the law of conservation of momentum, it cannot work.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014...pace-drive

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07-31-2014, 10:18 PM #2
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http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052

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07-31-2014, 10:30 PM #3
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"Test results indicate that the RF resonant cavity thruster design, which is unique as an electric propulsion device, is producing a force that is not attributable to any classical electromagnetic phenomenon and therefore is potentially demonstrating an interaction with the quantum vacuum virtual plasma."

Unreal. A mega pin for this.

It can generate propulsion through the manipulation of quantum electro dynamics.

NASA’s initial projections for a QVPT estimate that if a 100MW, 200 Ton (QVPT) could be engineered, the timeframe for transit between the Earth and Neptune would be just over 100 days.

That was published back in May of 2013, but gives a little insight to it's potential.
The moon in about an hour.

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07-31-2014, 10:34 PM #4
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Any one for a day trip to the old home land? popcorn2.gif

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07-31-2014, 10:37 PM #5
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This is incredible!

Hell yeah we're going for a day trip! woohoo.gif
07-31-2014, 11:36 PM #6
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(07-31-2014, 10:34 PM)NODOOM Wrote:  Any one for a day trip to the old home land? popcorn2.gif

Mars is lovely this time of year. This opens up so many possibilities that were not available before.

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07-31-2014, 11:38 PM #7
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(07-31-2014, 11:36 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(07-31-2014, 10:34 PM)NODOOM Wrote:  Any one for a day trip to the old home land? popcorn2.gif

Mars is lovely this time of year. This opens up so many possibilities that were not available before.

Exiting times ahead no doubt.

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07-31-2014, 11:40 PM #8
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this may be the biggest breakthrough in mans history.
07-31-2014, 11:41 PM #9
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(07-31-2014, 11:40 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  this may be the biggest breakthrough in mans history.


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08-01-2014, 12:09 AM #10
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Critics, schmitics. The proof will be when it works!

Just gotta' find a zippy way to create those microwaves! thumbsup.gif
08-01-2014, 12:13 PM #11
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Critics reject his relativity-based theory and insist that, according to the law of conservation of momentum, it cannot work.

Flawed logic. FFS entangled particles break second law of thermodynamics - conservation of momentum falls under thermodynamics.
If you prove it has an exception, which is clearly the case with this, it's hardly a law.
People like to cling to crap they learned in school, right wrong or indifferent. chuckle.gif

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08-01-2014, 12:35 PM #12
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(08-01-2014, 12:13 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Critics reject his relativity-based theory and insist that, according to the law of conservation of momentum, it cannot work.

Flawed logic. FFS entangled particles break second law of thermodynamics - conservation of momentum falls under thermodynamics.
If you prove it has an exception, which is clearly the case with this, it's hardly a law.
People like to cling to crap they learned in school, right wrong or indifferent. chuckle.gif

I don't think we can toss the 'laws' out on the lawn quite yet ~ but work in the last handful of years has expanded the laws of thermodynamics.

Carnot & Kelvin never dreamed about 'quantum effects' and "information" being players in the energy quest.

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/428...hysicists/

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/420...to-energy/
08-01-2014, 01:00 PM #13
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(08-01-2014, 12:35 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:  
(08-01-2014, 12:13 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Critics reject his relativity-based theory and insist that, according to the law of conservation of momentum, it cannot work.

Flawed logic. FFS entangled particles break second law of thermodynamics - conservation of momentum falls under thermodynamics.
If you prove it has an exception, which is clearly the case with this, it's hardly a law.
People like to cling to crap they learned in school, right wrong or indifferent. chuckle.gif

I don't think we can toss the 'laws' out on the lawn quite yet ~ but work in the last handful of years has expanded the laws of thermodynamics.

Carnot & Kelvin never dreamed about 'quantum effects' and "information" being players in the energy quest.

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/428...hysicists/

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/420...to-energy/

Thanks for the links reading.gif

We show that entangled states can be used to extract thermodynamic work beyond classical correlation

Wowness. thumbsup.gif Very interesting developments.

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08-01-2014, 01:01 PM #14
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Good morning JR

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08-01-2014, 01:04 PM #15
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wave.gif Good morning NODOOM! Happy Friday! yay.gif beercheer.gif

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