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03-14-2017, 01:27 PM #1
Cloud Atlas Member
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Is there such thing as negative progress?

Throughout the human history wars have never stopped, and there was never real efforts to stop them.

We keep on progressing in technology and investing in negative cultures.

https://www.rt.com/news/380390-iran-karr...roduction/

“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” ― David Mitchell
03-14-2017, 04:42 PM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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I think that would be called regress

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03-14-2017, 05:35 PM #3
Cloud Atlas Member
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(03-14-2017, 04:42 PM)Octo Wrote:  I think that would be called regress

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sure it's regress, but they keep calling it 'Progress in Technology'

“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” ― David Mitchell
03-14-2017, 06:44 PM #4
Octo Mother Superior
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Well sure it is progress in technology compared to this:

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Not progress for humankind though...

*sigh*
03-14-2017, 10:44 PM #5
dclements Member
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(03-14-2017, 01:27 PM)Cloud Atlas Wrote:  Is there such thing as negative progress?

Throughout the human history wars have never stopped, and there was never real efforts to stop them.

We keep on progressing in technology and investing in negative cultures.

https://www.rt.com/news/380390-iran-karr...roduction/
The question isn't really about whether there is 'negative progress' but if there is such a thing as progress at all. In Greek mythology, there is the story of Sisyphus which is about a king who is forced to push a rock up a hill only to watch it fall down when he gets it to the top, or possibly watch it roll down the hill if he fails while trying to get it up there. While there are reasons for us to believe that our eventual will not be as bad as that of Sisyphus, there are reasons to believe it may be not that different.

Human progress is really never a given and at any time there are a number of things that can set us back. On top of that every 'advancement' opens a potential can of worms introducing additional problems we didn't have to deal with before.
In a nutshell, we are told as children that life/reality is not that harsh and lead to believe that all you got to do be successful is really try, however both the complexity and numbers of problems with reality and the human condition are FAR beyond what anyone wants to tell you (or even be aware of it themselves) so it really isn't a surprise of the number of wars we have, the number of bad things that happen which we are unable to predict because of new technology, political/social upheaval, etc for the people who have some idea of the number of problems we really face and not just those that are pointed out to us as we are kids and/or young adults.

As Machiavelli, use to say you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Or maybe that was Rorschach from the Watchmen...
03-14-2017, 10:53 PM #6
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Negative tech is all around, we keep finding better ways to kill each other. vic.gif



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