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01-30-2017, 07:18 PM #16
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(01-30-2017, 01:19 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:  
(01-29-2017, 08:42 PM)dclements Wrote:  Anything that is too wild and crazy I don't have the time for even if I wanted to (partly because I have ADHD and get bored easily), but I think the 0.1% or 0.01% out there might be useful information. That is if I can figure out a way to distill some of the 99.9% to 99.99% that isn't

Well, dc ~ welcome to the forum ~ 1st beer is on us.

If the MSM could figger out a way to do exactly ^^^ that, there prolly would BE no CT forums/sites.

There's not really any WalMart of CT out there. My advice ~ pick an end of the bone you find tasty and then research (chew) the hell out of it. Either inquire where you find the morsels or post back here with the skinny and a link and let others add/help with an observation or two.

The 2nd part is helpful, as many of us have travelled the road and more or less know where the potholes are. Then again, with fresh eyes you'll see much of what may have been missed.

Best of luck dc! cheers.gif
Sounds reasonable enough for me. reading.gif

BTW. In another thread I created a link to a share where I have an UFO/Majestic-12 operation manual and in case you don't see it there I will add it here:

US ARMY - UFO Official Manual.pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5ISoxm...8tX1k/view

As I mentioned in the other thread I found it while looking for other stuff on a peer to peer network years back. As far as I can tell it is public knowledge since there are web sites out there that share it too. If you or anyone else that chooses to download it and look at it, please share any interesting tid bits (whether it be something crediting or discrediting it's authenticity or other stuff) with the rest of us.

I have posted a few links in the other thread that I came across by doing a search on the title of the manual, "SOM1-01 to 12D1-3-11-1". I can repost them here if anyone wants me to.

Also I made a post in the "The Fukushima Disaster" in order to try to discredit/reduce any negative news people may have heard about the accident and nuclear power in general. As a person being pro-nuke (my dad was the head nuclear physicist in charge of the clean up at TMI/Three Mile Island) I believe that nuclear power is one of the safest and cheapest forms of energy we have. I understand people fear of nuclear power but my personal belief is that most people have not enough knowledge be able to rational weigh the pros and cons as well as the people who trained and/or actually work in the industry. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I have knowledge of why certain information is false or fake I will try to share that as well.
01-30-2017, 07:39 PM #17
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(01-30-2017, 07:18 PM)dclements Wrote:  
(01-30-2017, 01:19 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:  
(01-29-2017, 08:42 PM)dclements Wrote:  Anything that is too wild and crazy I don't have the time for even if I wanted to (partly because I have ADHD and get bored easily), but I think the 0.1% or 0.01% out there might be useful information. That is if I can figure out a way to distill some of the 99.9% to 99.99% that isn't

Well, dc ~ welcome to the forum ~ 1st beer is on us.

If the MSM could figger out a way to do exactly ^^^ that, there prolly would BE no CT forums/sites.

There's not really any WalMart of CT out there. My advice ~ pick an end of the bone you find tasty and then research (chew) the hell out of it. Either inquire where you find the morsels or post back here with the skinny and a link and let others add/help with an observation or two.

The 2nd part is helpful, as many of us have travelled the road and more or less know where the potholes are. Then again, with fresh eyes you'll see much of what may have been missed.

Best of luck dc! cheers.gif
Sounds reasonable enough for me. reading.gif

BTW. In another thread I created a link to a share where I have an UFO/Majestic-12 operation manual and in case you don't see it there I will add it here:

US ARMY - UFO Official Manual.pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5ISoxm...8tX1k/view

As I mentioned in the other thread I found it while looking for other stuff on a peer to peer network years back. As far as I can tell it is public knowledge since there are web sites out there that share it too. If you or anyone else that chooses to download it and look at it, please share any interesting tid bits (whether it be something crediting or discrediting it's authenticity or other stuff) with the rest of us.

I have posted a few links in the other thread that I came across by doing a search on the title of the manual, "SOM1-01 to 12D1-3-11-1". I can repost them here if anyone wants me to.

Also I made a post in the "The Fukushima Disaster" in order to try to discredit/reduce any negative news people may have heard about the accident and nuclear power in general. As a person being pro-nuke (my dad was the head nuclear physicist in charge of the clean up at TMI/Three Mile Island) I believe that nuclear power is one of the safest and cheapest forms of energy we have. I understand people fear of nuclear power but my personal belief is that most people have not enough knowledge be able to rational weigh the pros and cons as well as the people who trained and/or actually work in the industry. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I have knowledge of why certain information is false or fake I will try to share that as well.

Welcome and my nephew too is in a managerial position in a nuclear plant and says the exact same thing.
01-30-2017, 09:07 PM #18
dclements Member
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(01-30-2017, 07:39 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(01-30-2017, 07:18 PM)dclements Wrote:  
(01-30-2017, 01:19 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:  
(01-29-2017, 08:42 PM)dclements Wrote:  Anything that is too wild and crazy I don't have the time for even if I wanted to (partly because I have ADHD and get bored easily), but I think the 0.1% or 0.01% out there might be useful information. That is if I can figure out a way to distill some of the 99.9% to 99.99% that isn't

Well, dc ~ welcome to the forum ~ 1st beer is on us.

If the MSM could figger out a way to do exactly ^^^ that, there prolly would BE no CT forums/sites.

There's not really any WalMart of CT out there. My advice ~ pick an end of the bone you find tasty and then research (chew) the hell out of it. Either inquire where you find the morsels or post back here with the skinny and a link and let others add/help with an observation or two.

The 2nd part is helpful, as many of us have travelled the road and more or less know where the potholes are. Then again, with fresh eyes you'll see much of what may have been missed.

Best of luck dc! cheers.gif
Sounds reasonable enough for me. reading.gif

BTW. In another thread I created a link to a share where I have an UFO/Majestic-12 operation manual and in case you don't see it there I will add it here:

US ARMY - UFO Official Manual.pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5ISoxm...8tX1k/view

As I mentioned in the other thread I found it while looking for other stuff on a peer to peer network years back. As far as I can tell it is public knowledge since there are web sites out there that share it too. If you or anyone else that chooses to download it and look at it, please share any interesting tid bits (whether it be something crediting or discrediting it's authenticity or other stuff) with the rest of us.

I have posted a few links in the other thread that I came across by doing a search on the title of the manual, "SOM1-01 to 12D1-3-11-1". I can repost them here if anyone wants me to.

Also I made a post in the "The Fukushima Disaster" in order to try to discredit/reduce any negative news people may have heard about the accident and nuclear power in general. As a person being pro-nuke (my dad was the head nuclear physicist in charge of the clean up at TMI/Three Mile Island) I believe that nuclear power is one of the safest and cheapest forms of energy we have. I understand people fear of nuclear power but my personal belief is that most people have not enough knowledge be able to rational weigh the pros and cons as well as the people who trained and/or actually work in the industry. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I have knowledge of why certain information is false or fake I will try to share that as well.

Welcome and my nephew too is in a managerial position in a nuclear plant and says the exact same thing.
For some reason what you said reminded me of something that was mentioned in one of my nuclear safety classes, and that is that the US and Russia during the 40s-60s (at least I think is about the right timeline) tested both fusion and fission (ie much more powerful) nuclear bombs. Nobody really understood the dangers back then and nobody really cared; plus it was all done for national security. However once they built nuclear reactors not to far from residential areas, people became more concern about the potential dangers of radiation.

The magnitude of radiation released during the nuclear bomb tests are probably much, much, higher then anything that can happen during a accident at a nuclear power plant. This is common sense because with a bomb your DELIBERATELY creating a large area that is devastated and filled with radiation and radioactive debris and with a reactor there are nearly endless safety measures in place (whether it be in the US or elsewhere and/or old or new nuclear technology) to prevent harm to the public.

I know that some of the early recklessness by researchers and/or other groups caused people to become frightened by nuclear technology/power, however ALL technology comes with it's own risks and often there are dangers with anything that hasn't been used before. When steam engines where first built, people often died in the hundreds during an explosion on something like a steamboat. However back then the opportunity to get from point A to point B was worth the risk. Nowadays people are often so risk adverse (such as the people who don't want to vaccinate their kids), that they create more problems than if they didn't do anything in the first place.
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01-31-2017, 06:02 AM #19
stellah Incognito Anonymous
 
"The Fukushima Disaster"
isnt that where an underwater nuke was set off in conjunction with a haarp created earthquake and a stuxnet virus was used to punish the Japanese for not towing the line?
01-31-2017, 08:11 AM #20
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(01-31-2017, 06:02 AM)stellah Wrote:  "The Fukushima Disaster"
isnt that where an underwater nuke was set off in conjunction with a haarp created earthquake and a stuxnet virus was used to punish the Japanese for not towing the line?

damned.gif

' Welcome to My Nightmare '
01-31-2017, 01:58 PM #21
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
Posts:1,850 Threads:45 Joined:Mar 2011
(01-30-2017, 07:18 PM)dclements Wrote:  Also I made a post in the "The Fukushima Disaster" in order to try to discredit/reduce any negative news people may have heard about the accident and nuclear power in general. As a person being pro-nuke (my dad was the head nuclear physicist in charge of the clean up at TMI/Three Mile Island) I believe that nuclear power is one of the safest and cheapest forms of energy we have. I understand people fear of nuclear power but my personal belief is that most people have not enough knowledge be able to rational weigh the pros and cons as well as the people who trained and/or actually work in the industry. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I have knowledge of why certain information is false or fake I will try to share that as well.

Nuke power isn't ALWAYS safe, as Fukushima has shown. Fine if a country wants to poison its heartland, I don't a helluva lot of problem with that, although it was a bitch for the few million folks who had their lives fuked up with Chernobyl.

Building a nuke plant on the freakin' seacoast that has shït in our collective messkit called the Pacific is something that can't have a Mulligan applied.

There are no do-overs for that kind of fukup.

I, too, spent a 30 year career in the military and electric power utility arenas and bought the party line that nuke power is safe. <cough-cough>

It's not.
01-31-2017, 05:32 PM #22
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,898 Threads:420 Joined:Jun 2012
(01-30-2017, 09:07 PM)dclements Wrote:  
(01-30-2017, 07:39 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(01-30-2017, 07:18 PM)dclements Wrote:  
(01-30-2017, 01:19 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:  
(01-29-2017, 08:42 PM)dclements Wrote:  Anything that is too wild and crazy I don't have the time for even if I wanted to (partly because I have ADHD and get bored easily), but I think the 0.1% or 0.01% out there might be useful information. That is if I can figure out a way to distill some of the 99.9% to 99.99% that isn't

Well, dc ~ welcome to the forum ~ 1st beer is on us.

If the MSM could figger out a way to do exactly ^^^ that, there prolly would BE no CT forums/sites.

There's not really any WalMart of CT out there. My advice ~ pick an end of the bone you find tasty and then research (chew) the hell out of it. Either inquire where you find the morsels or post back here with the skinny and a link and let others add/help with an observation or two.

The 2nd part is helpful, as many of us have travelled the road and more or less know where the potholes are. Then again, with fresh eyes you'll see much of what may have been missed.

Best of luck dc! cheers.gif
Sounds reasonable enough for me. reading.gif

BTW. In another thread I created a link to a share where I have an UFO/Majestic-12 operation manual and in case you don't see it there I will add it here:

US ARMY - UFO Official Manual.pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5ISoxm...8tX1k/view

As I mentioned in the other thread I found it while looking for other stuff on a peer to peer network years back. As far as I can tell it is public knowledge since there are web sites out there that share it too. If you or anyone else that chooses to download it and look at it, please share any interesting tid bits (whether it be something crediting or discrediting it's authenticity or other stuff) with the rest of us.

I have posted a few links in the other thread that I came across by doing a search on the title of the manual, "SOM1-01 to 12D1-3-11-1". I can repost them here if anyone wants me to.

Also I made a post in the "The Fukushima Disaster" in order to try to discredit/reduce any negative news people may have heard about the accident and nuclear power in general. As a person being pro-nuke (my dad was the head nuclear physicist in charge of the clean up at TMI/Three Mile Island) I believe that nuclear power is one of the safest and cheapest forms of energy we have. I understand people fear of nuclear power but my personal belief is that most people have not enough knowledge be able to rational weigh the pros and cons as well as the people who trained and/or actually work in the industry. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I have knowledge of why certain information is false or fake I will try to share that as well.

Welcome and my nephew too is in a managerial position in a nuclear plant and says the exact same thing.
For some reason what you said reminded me of something that was mentioned in one of my nuclear safety classes, and that is that the US and Russia during the 40s-60s (at least I think is about the right timeline) tested both fusion and fission (ie much more powerful) nuclear bombs. Nobody really understood the dangers back then and nobody really cared; plus it was all done for national security. However once they built nuclear reactors not to far from residential areas, people became more concern about the potential dangers of radiation.

The magnitude of radiation released during the nuclear bomb tests are probably much, much, higher then anything that can happen during a accident at a nuclear power plant. This is common sense because with a bomb your DELIBERATELY creating a large area that is devastated and filled with radiation and radioactive debris and with a reactor there are nearly endless safety measures in place (whether it be in the US or elsewhere and/or old or new nuclear technology) to prevent harm to the public.

I know that some of the early recklessness by researchers and/or other groups caused people to become frightened by nuclear technology/power, however ALL technology comes with it's own risks and often there are dangers with anything that hasn't been used before. When steam engines where first built, people often died in the hundreds during an explosion on something like a steamboat. However back then the opportunity to get from point A to point B was worth the risk. Nowadays people are often so risk adverse (such as the people who don't want to vaccinate their kids), that they create more problems than if they didn't do anything in the first place.

Well, from what I've been reading on the nuclear energy front, it is only getting better and safer.

At any rate, you will certainly have lively discussions on this topic. Have fun.
01-31-2017, 07:01 PM #23
dclements Member
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(01-31-2017, 06:02 AM)stellah Wrote:  "The Fukushima Disaster"
isnt that where an underwater nuke was set off in conjunction with a haarp created earthquake and a stuxnet virus was used to punish the Japanese for not towing the line?
Wow, I haven't hear the term HAARP for a long time. I'm not even sure if it is still in operation.
01-31-2017, 07:27 PM #24
Octo Mother Superior
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I have no idea. It's been pretty quiet around haarp for some time or did the ct community just get bored with it 13.gif
02-01-2017, 01:40 AM #25
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(01-31-2017, 07:01 PM)dclements Wrote:  
(01-31-2017, 06:02 AM)stellah Wrote:  "The Fukushima Disaster"
isnt that where an underwater nuke was set off in conjunction with a haarp created earthquake and a stuxnet virus was used to punish the Japanese for not towing the line?
Wow, I haven't hear the term HAARP for a long time. I'm not even sure if it is still in operation.

Article/summary-The Military's Pandora's Box
http://www.haarp.net

HAARP/Alaska now:
The HAARP open house on August 27, 2016
http://www.gi.alaska.edu/haarp-0

Related facilities (HAARP) :
In America, there are two related ionospheric heating facilities: the HIPAS, near Fairbanks, Alaska, and one at the Arecibo Observatory[27] in Puerto Rico. The European Incoherent Scatter Scientific Association (EISCAT) operates an ionospheric heating facility, capable of transmitting over 1 GW effective radiated power (ERP), near Tromsø, Norway.[28] Russia has the Sura Ionospheric Heating Facility, in Vasilsursk near Nizhniy Novgorod, capable of transmitting 190 MW ERP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequ...ch_Program

' Welcome to My Nightmare '
02-01-2017, 06:58 PM #26
dclements Member
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(02-01-2017, 01:40 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(01-31-2017, 07:01 PM)dclements Wrote:  
(01-31-2017, 06:02 AM)stellah Wrote:  "The Fukushima Disaster"
isnt that where an underwater nuke was set off in conjunction with a haarp created earthquake and a stuxnet virus was used to punish the Japanese for not towing the line?
Wow, I haven't hear the term HAARP for a long time. I'm not even sure if it is still in operation.

Article/summary-The Military's Pandora's Box
http://www.haarp.net

HAARP/Alaska now:
The HAARP open house on August 27, 2016
http://www.gi.alaska.edu/haarp-0

Related facilities (HAARP) :
In America, there are two related ionospheric heating facilities: the HIPAS, near Fairbanks, Alaska, and one at the Arecibo Observatory[27] in Puerto Rico. The European Incoherent Scatter Scientific Association (EISCAT) operates an ionospheric heating facility, capable of transmitting over 1 GW effective radiated power (ERP), near Tromsø, Norway.[28] Russia has the Sura Ionospheric Heating Facility, in Vasilsursk near Nizhniy Novgorod, capable of transmitting 190 MW ERP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequ...ch_Program
I once had a book about HAARP and was fascinated by even the possibility that some of the stuff in it could be true EVEN IF THEY WERE NOT USED AT THE BASE. I was like 'dam, our government would be idiots not to use it'; other than the moral implications and violations of Geneva Conventions and stuff of course.

I always like to imagine a picture of HAARP with it's massive mess of antennas and having the aurora lights dancing in the background.

Sort of it pictures of HAARP such as these:
İmage

İmage

..had an massive rainbow/whirlwind aurora light dancing in background sort of if these two next pictures where combine..

İmage

İmage

..except the aurora light would fill up the entire sky so there would be nothing in the backgrouns.

Ok, so I have an an over active imagination but that is a healthy thing, right?
02-01-2017, 07:07 PM #27
dclements Member
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Since we are on the subject of HAARP, does anyone know anything about Dulce Base and any truth to the conspiracies behind it. To me it sounds like something out of a science fiction book (ie. a massive underground base tied with other underground bases with multiple aliens races and humans working yet from to time starting small wars with each other) and far too incredible to believe.

Too me the whole thing sounds like it requires too much logistical paperwork and support to resources to remain hidden for any real length of time. I mean people know about area 51 and the planes that come in and out of it so if a base like Dulce is supposed to exist (and according to the theories there is likely several of these massive hidden underground bases) how could they remain unknown yet maintained?
02-01-2017, 07:12 PM #28
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(02-01-2017, 07:07 PM)dclements Wrote:  Since we are on the subject of HAARP, does anyone know anything about Dulce Base and any truth to the conspiracies behind it. To me it sounds like something out of a science fiction book (ie. a massive underground base tied with other underground bases with multiple aliens races and humans working yet from to time starting small wars with each other) and far too incredible to believe.

Too me the whole thing sounds like it requires too much logistical paperwork and support to resources to remain hidden for any real length of time. I mean people know about area 51 and the planes that come in and out of it so if a base like Dulce is supposed to exist (and according to the theories there is likely several of these massive hidden underground bases) how could they remain unknown yet maintained?



With Area 51 we have people camping around there, watching all the time.

I don't think anyone is camping around HAARP to watch what goes on there. Anyway, is it true they are closing it?

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7483/2...eories.htm
02-01-2017, 07:44 PM #29
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(02-01-2017, 07:07 PM)dclements Wrote:  Since we are on the subject of HAARP, does anyone know anything about Dulce Base and any truth to the conspiracies behind it. To me it sounds like something out of a science fiction book (ie. a massive underground base tied with other underground bases with multiple aliens races and humans working yet from to time starting small wars with each other) and far too incredible to believe.

Too me the whole thing sounds like it requires too much logistical paperwork and support to resources to remain hidden for any real length of time. I mean people know about area 51 and the planes that come in and out of it so if a base like Dulce is supposed to exist (and according to the theories there is likely several of these massive hidden underground bases) how could they remain unknown yet maintained?

I've never been around anyone with a first hand account of it, or that claimed to have set foot on the grounds.
Aside from Phil Schneider, explosives engineer for the U.S. who claimed that in the late 70's he was involved in construction of a “secret underground base,” on the premises, and he also stated that a battle went down there with 60 people dead and "aliens" in left in bad shape.
Even Puffington Host covered it, so you know it's fake news. chuckle.gif http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roadtrippe...82945.html
The other info, or disinfo depending on your sensibilities was the stuff Dulce Base Security officer Thomas Edwin Castello claimed just before his death... http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/branto...book11.htm
An interesting story, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for any meaningful disclosure.

wonder.gif
02-01-2017, 07:53 PM #30
dclements Member
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(02-01-2017, 07:12 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(02-01-2017, 07:07 PM)dclements Wrote:  Since we are on the subject of HAARP, does anyone know anything about Dulce Base and any truth to the conspiracies behind it. To me it sounds like something out of a science fiction book (ie. a massive underground base tied with other underground bases with multiple aliens races and humans working yet from to time starting small wars with each other) and far too incredible to believe.

Too me the whole thing sounds like it requires too much logistical paperwork and support to resources to remain hidden for any real length of time. I mean people know about area 51 and the planes that come in and out of it so if a base like Dulce is supposed to exist (and according to the theories there is likely several of these massive hidden underground bases) how could they remain unknown yet maintained?



With Area 51 we have people camping around there, watching all the time.

I don't think anyone is camping around HAARP to watch what goes on there. Anyway, is it true they are closing it?

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7483/2...eories.htm
I have heard of talk about it getting shut down, but the Wikki page on HAARP talks about tours in 2016 and nothing about the site being closed. It is possible that it was in the cross-hair during a period of budget cut talks and was saved by military and/or civilian advocates for the site; much like any military station or base has people considering closing it until their political opponents stop them from ever following through.

The Groton sub base I use to work at had about half a dozen times where people tried to close it until the Navy had to consider what would happen if they actually followed through with it. Right now there is no talk of such thing since Groton is the last place in the US where subs are built and to close the base would likely cost more because subs and the Navy wouldn't have any nearby facility to work out of, without building another facility nearby.



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