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No more Twinkies? It's TEOTWAWKI! Update: Hostess Liquidates
11-17-2012, 06:53 PM #46
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(11-17-2012, 06:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Yes, it's a sad situation for both the workers and the company owners, they say the strike forced them to shut the company down due to financial reasons. What do you think about that Shadow?


I tried to find a pay rate for Hostess employees, seems the right wingers thought they were getting $30/hr and the left wingers said of course they should strike, but no hint at all of what the actual wages were for union employees. It could have been $10/hr I don't know. I think it comes down to Obamacare, employers are being forced to subsidize uninsured people and are closing doors before it's implemented. Perhaps once Hostess goes through receivorship they'll re-open sans union?

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11-17-2012, 06:55 PM #47
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-17-2012, 06:53 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(11-17-2012, 06:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Yes, it's a sad situation for both the workers and the company owners, they say the strike forced them to shut the company down due to financial reasons. What do you think about that Shadow?


I tried to find a pay rate for Hostess employees, seems the right wingers thought they were getting $30/hr and the left wingers said of course they should strike, but no hint at all of what the actual wages were for union employees. It could have been $10/hr I don't know. I think it comes down to Obamacare, employers are being forced to subsidize uninsured people and are closing doors before it's implemented. Perhaps once Hostess goes through receivorship they'll re-open sans union?

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Well, I'm just guessing here, that if they were unionized that they had pretty good wages.
11-17-2012, 06:59 PM #48
Octo Mother Superior
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(11-17-2012, 06:51 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(11-17-2012, 06:50 PM)Octo Wrote:  I bet eating nothing but meat will do the same thing.


I would think the cholesterol levels would rise though.


No, but a sugar laden diet would do that.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM198002143020701
11-17-2012, 07:07 PM #49
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-17-2012, 06:59 PM)Octo Wrote:  
(11-17-2012, 06:51 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(11-17-2012, 06:50 PM)Octo Wrote:  I bet eating nothing but meat will do the same thing.


I would think the cholesterol levels would rise though.


No, but a sugar laden diet would do that.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM198002143020701


Of course, the twinkie diet was only studied for 10 weeks not for any length of time. So, sure that makes sense.
11-17-2012, 07:18 PM #50
Octo Mother Superior
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I studied it for years chuckle.gif

You can prove anything and everything in a 10 week study and the fact I don't really have more than 5 pounds I could possibly get rid of (if I wanted to, but I think it's a good idea to pack some energy on you for hard times)

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11-17-2012, 07:30 PM #51
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-17-2012, 07:18 PM)Octo Wrote:  I studied it for years chuckle.gif

You can prove anything and everything in a 10 week study and the fact I don't really have more than 5 pounds I could possibly get rid of (if I wanted to, but I think it's a good idea to pack some energy on you for hard times)

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I like your way of thinking.

11-17-2012, 07:38 PM #52
Octo Mother Superior
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ğck Twinkies, plenty of veggies, berries and proteins. That's how I roll chuckle.gif beercheer.gif
11-17-2012, 07:49 PM #53
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(11-17-2012, 06:55 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Well, I'm just guessing here, that if they were unionized that they had pretty good wages.


Be a safe bet I'm thinking. Decent benefits too, which places quite a burden on the company. On the other hand, CEO Driscoll tripled his salary earlier this year to $2.5 million and other execs saw massive increases as well. Not good business practices.
11-17-2012, 07:59 PM #54
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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At last, a hint just what they made at the Hostess plant

The average wage for a Hostess bakery worker is/was $13.78/hr.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hostess-wa...30496.html

Not extravagant.
11-17-2012, 08:03 PM #55
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-17-2012, 07:59 PM)Shadow Wrote:  At last, a hint just what they made at the Hostess plant

The average wage for a Hostess bakery worker is/was $13.78/hr.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hostess-wa...30496.html

Not extravagant.


So, the company wanted to cut those barely able to live on wages. 13.gif
11-17-2012, 08:08 PM #56
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(11-17-2012, 08:03 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  So, the company wanted to cut those barely able to live on wages. 13.gif


Perhaps it was the benefits that sunk them, and the executives. Looming obamacare as well, so the execs merely grabbed what they could before the ship sank. I don't think the unions are entirely to blame, Hostess went thru b/k court twice already, accepting the wage cuts would only delay the inevitable. China will purchase the brand, put twinkies into production in Beijing and carry on. lol.
11-17-2012, 08:11 PM #57
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-17-2012, 08:08 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(11-17-2012, 08:03 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  So, the company wanted to cut those barely able to live on wages. 13.gif


Perhaps it was the benefits that sunk them, and the executives. Looming obamacare as well, so the execs merely grabbed what they could before the ship sank. I don't think the unions are entirely to blame, Hostess went thru b/k court twice already, accepting the wage cuts would only delay the inevitable. China will purchase the brand, put twinkies into production in Beijing and carry on. lol.


Buh bye manufacturing jobs.



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