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North Carolina: SH1T JUST GOT REAL
04-17-2016, 01:35 AM #16
White Ribbon call me
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(04-16-2016, 03:36 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(04-16-2016, 11:51 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  It is retarded. My closest friend is trans and he looks like a guy! Has a beard and no one would ever guess there is a vag between his legs. His passport says male. So he needs to use the ladies toilets?

Hillbilly rednecks.

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How often is your friend's gender questioned in a bathroom? damned.gif

No. Just like always your friend would walk right in and sit on the toilet and do his business and no one would know anything about it. He would just be a guy using the bathroom.

I don't think you are a homophobe, far from it.. My comment wasnt geared towards you, it was a reply to the original post..
04-17-2016, 03:32 AM #17
Screaming Yellow Zonkers Member
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(04-16-2016, 03:36 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  It's religious dogma over human rights, is how I see it and isn't N. Carolina part of the Bible Belt?

Yes

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04-17-2016, 05:44 AM #18
Jim Rat Member
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(04-17-2016, 03:32 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  
(04-16-2016, 03:36 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  It's religious dogma over human rights, is how I see it and isn't N. Carolina part of the Bible Belt?

Yes
No one quoted religious dogma. The concerns voiced were about sexual perverts and predators using the law as an excuse to enter the girls' restroom. THAT is the concern.

It's one thing to say everyone is equal and a whole different thing to say everyone is the same.

I think someone said this law is also being used to deny employment to gays and trans. I think everyone - on this board, anyway - agrees that is improper. Still, the weak and defenseless need to be protected and that was the original purpose of the law.
04-17-2016, 03:00 PM #19
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(04-17-2016, 01:35 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  
(04-16-2016, 03:36 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(04-16-2016, 11:51 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  It is retarded. My closest friend is trans and he looks like a guy! Has a beard and no one would ever guess there is a vag between his legs. His passport says male. So he needs to use the ladies toilets?

Hillbilly rednecks.

yup.gif

How often is your friend's gender questioned in a bathroom? damned.gif

No. Just like always your friend would walk right in and sit on the toilet and do his business and no one would know anything about it. He would just be a guy using the bathroom.

I don't think you are a homophobe, far from it.. My comment wasnt geared towards you, it was a reply to the original post..

No worries, you weren't the one that said it.

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Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
04-17-2016, 03:14 PM #20
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(04-17-2016, 05:44 AM)Jim Rat Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 03:32 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  
(04-16-2016, 03:36 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  It's religious dogma over human rights, is how I see it and isn't N. Carolina part of the Bible Belt?

Yes
No one quoted religious dogma. The concerns voiced were about sexual perverts and predators using the law as an excuse to enter the girls' restroom. THAT is the concern.

It's one thing to say everyone is equal and a whole different thing to say everyone is the same.

I think someone said this law is also being used to deny employment to gays and trans. I think everyone - on this board, anyway - agrees that is improper. Still, the weak and defenseless need to be protected and that was the original purpose of the law.

Exactly. Coed bathrooms in other states are being abused by pervs and scum. NC residents are trying to avoid that.

I grew up in eastern NC during the 70s. I never saw any kind of racial issues. When I was in high school in the early 80s there were openly gay students and no one cared. They were treated lust like other students and were generally pretty popular. The things they were teaching in schools were fairly progressive towards equality (Not the psycho progressive we see today.). And these were schools out in the country, not big cities.

Remember, NC has traditionally been a Democrat state. It hasn't been that long since it changed and that was because the left got so out of control. Except for some of the churchies, you could say that the state is mostly centrist Libertarians even if they don't know what that is.

Is there bigotry there? Of course there is. Bigotry is everywhere. But the most racist and bigoted people I have ever met were from the north east US, not the south. I worked at a country club for a while and was shocked by the way the members were talking. ALL of them were from the NE. Having grown up in rural NC during the 70s I had never heard anyone talk like that. I can't believe the people of that state have regressed to the point some are trying to claim.

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
04-17-2016, 05:37 PM #21
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-17-2016, 05:44 AM)Jim Rat Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 03:32 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  
(04-16-2016, 03:36 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  It's religious dogma over human rights, is how I see it and isn't N. Carolina part of the Bible Belt?

Yes
No one quoted religious dogma. The concerns voiced were about sexual perverts and predators using the law as an excuse to enter the girls' restroom. THAT is the concern.

It's one thing to say everyone is equal and a whole different thing to say everyone is the same.

I think someone said this law is also being used to deny employment to gays and trans. I think everyone - on this board, anyway - agrees that is improper. Still, the weak and defenseless need to be protected and that was the original purpose of the law.

Isn't that the Republican agenda...religion-driven?

https://usatelections.wordpress.com/2015...-carolina/
04-17-2016, 06:02 PM #22
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(04-17-2016, 05:37 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 05:44 AM)Jim Rat Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 03:32 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  
(04-16-2016, 03:36 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  It's religious dogma over human rights, is how I see it and isn't N. Carolina part of the Bible Belt?

Yes
No one quoted religious dogma. The concerns voiced were about sexual perverts and predators using the law as an excuse to enter the girls' restroom. THAT is the concern.

It's one thing to say everyone is equal and a whole different thing to say everyone is the same.

I think someone said this law is also being used to deny employment to gays and trans. I think everyone - on this board, anyway - agrees that is improper. Still, the weak and defenseless need to be protected and that was the original purpose of the law.

Isn't that the Republican agenda...religion-driven?

Some of them. No doubt about it. But watch videos of the Sanders supporters protesting Trump. Can't tell me they aren't crazed cultists.

That's the problem with getting political perspectives from MSM. They only show the extreme crazies of the left and right. The very vocal minorities. The vast majority of the populous is centrist and we get along just fine. We are just decent people trying to make our way through life. But that makes for boring tv.

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
04-17-2016, 07:14 PM #23
Mollyblue Member
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(04-14-2016, 08:10 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  It’s been nearly three weeks since North Carolina Republicans decided to turn back the clocks and enshrine bigotry and hate into law with the passage of its license-to-discriminate, anti-LGBT bill, and the state has really been taking a hit. They’ve been sued, their own attorney general has refused to defend the law, they’re losing business, they’re losing jobs, and they even lost The Boss. 

But now, the shït just got real:

For any North Carolinian turning to the Internet for carnal pleasure, one popular website will prove disappointing.

XHamster, a prawn website that, as of Monday, is one of the world’s 100 most visited websites according to data from Alexa, is refusing to serve anyone using a computer in North Carolina. Since 12:30 p.m. Eastern time Monday, the website has appeared as a black screen for anyone with a North Carolina IP address.

Suck on that, Tar Heels!



Read it all here :
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/1...g-pleasure

A symbolic loss of nothing.,
04-17-2016, 10:50 PM #24
Jim Rat Member
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(04-17-2016, 05:37 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 05:44 AM)Jim Rat Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 03:32 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  
(04-16-2016, 03:36 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  It's religious dogma over human rights, is how I see it and isn't N. Carolina part of the Bible Belt?

Yes
No one quoted religious dogma. The concerns voiced were about sexual perverts and predators using the law as an excuse to enter the girls' restroom. THAT is the concern.

It's one thing to say everyone is equal and a whole different thing to say everyone is the same.

I think someone said this law is also being used to deny employment to gays and trans. I think everyone - on this board, anyway - agrees that is improper. Still, the weak and defenseless need to be protected and that was the original purpose of the law.

Isn't that the Republican agenda...religion-driven?

https://usatelections.wordpress.com/2015...-carolina/
Do you sincerely believe the Republican Party is Christian? Try to get over the brainwashing crap you've been fed and learn to think for yourself.
04-18-2016, 04:13 PM #25
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-17-2016, 10:50 PM)Jim Rat Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 05:37 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 05:44 AM)Jim Rat Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 03:32 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  
(04-16-2016, 03:36 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  It's religious dogma over human rights, is how I see it and isn't N. Carolina part of the Bible Belt?

Yes
No one quoted religious dogma. The concerns voiced were about sexual perverts and predators using the law as an excuse to enter the girls' restroom. THAT is the concern.

It's one thing to say everyone is equal and a whole different thing to say everyone is the same.

I think someone said this law is also being used to deny employment to gays and trans. I think everyone - on this board, anyway - agrees that is improper. Still, the weak and defenseless need to be protected and that was the original purpose of the law.

Isn't that the Republican agenda...religion-driven?

https://usatelections.wordpress.com/2015...-carolina/
Do you sincerely believe the Republican Party is Christian? Try to get over the brainwashing crap you've been fed and learn to think for yourself.
And where do you get your information? Your thought processes work from the same playing field. Get over yourself.

f it quacks like a duck...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...le-clarity
04-19-2016, 01:12 AM #26
Jim Rat Member
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(04-18-2016, 04:13 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 10:50 PM)Jim Rat Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 05:37 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 05:44 AM)Jim Rat Wrote:  
(04-17-2016, 03:32 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  Yes
No one quoted religious dogma. The concerns voiced were about sexual perverts and predators using the law as an excuse to enter the girls' restroom. THAT is the concern.

It's one thing to say everyone is equal and a whole different thing to say everyone is the same.

I think someone said this law is also being used to deny employment to gays and trans. I think everyone - on this board, anyway - agrees that is improper. Still, the weak and defenseless need to be protected and that was the original purpose of the law.

Isn't that the Republican agenda...religion-driven?

https://usatelections.wordpress.com/2015...-carolina/
Do you sincerely believe the Republican Party is Christian? Try to get over the brainwashing crap you've been fed and learn to think for yourself.
And where do you get your information? Your thought processes work from the same playing field. Get over yourself.

f it quacks like a duck...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...le-clarity

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That's funny coming from you.
04-19-2016, 04:13 PM #27
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Whose rights trump whose?



This is what I am referring to, regarding officials using religion to justify discrimination.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/29/us/chu....html?_r=0
04-19-2016, 04:33 PM #28
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Officials using religion to justify discrimination is a classic example of convictions of convenience. They will push anything, say anything and do anything that would garner votes at the expense of any minority group.

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04-19-2016, 04:42 PM #29
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Yes, but to me it always seems that arguments between religious persons are always circular - go nowhere (my experience through life). It is all interpretation and can be a losing battle trying to budge those with a strict obedience in following an accepted interpretation.
04-19-2016, 05:47 PM #30
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Mind you, there are quite a few people who are devoutly religious and open minded and they have my utmost respect, but my god... some of these people act as if religion is a friggin' lobotomy that destroys all common sense.
Problem is all religions are exclusionary. We're better than them because they blah blah blah, and we're going to heaven because our founder found these magic slippers that no one has ever seen but him and... and... chuckle.gif

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