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OK. Weirdness on another forum
10-13-2013, 11:54 PM #1
Screaming Yellow Zonkers Member
Posts:2,706 Threads:265 Joined:Apr 2013
So, out of the blue, a member of another forum I belong to, messaged me with a link to a thread I guess they wanted me to respond to.
I found it odd, as we had never spoken before, but we are like minded.
They've been a member there since 2010.Which is quite a bit longer than I.
They had been in active a long time, and suddenly started posting a lot the last few months.

I will also preface this by saying this is the forum where they read your private PMs to one another, and will ban you for stuff you say privately, as the white ribbon can attest.

However, then this person made it so I couldn't respond to the PM, which I found odd.
No idea why. So I started a new pvt conversation.

I added them as a friend, but they removed me.
Then messaged me saying it's best we aren't seen as friends, because this forum is run by The Masons.
And that the forum ATS, is also run by Masons.

Again, message deleted at their end so I cannot respond.

So I go to their profile, and it's inactive.
I was going to tell them to email me, but just, gone.

Now, on that forum, no one can in activate a profile except a moderator.
They weren't banned or anything, not suspended, just inactive.
You can't message them, see their profile anymore,nothing

So..... I have no idea if they left on their own, and asked a mod to inactivate them, or they're a mole trying to plant disinformation.
It's just bizarre .

I have no issue with Masons actually. Not Masons of Olde anyway.

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10-13-2013, 11:59 PM #2
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
Posts:31,283 Threads:1,438 Joined:Feb 2011
This is not the first time I've heard this. Apparently a few unscrupulous forums do this, and some ban you if you're giving links to other forums in PM's.
Not naming any names here, but I can affirm shlt like this happens.

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10-14-2013, 12:12 AM #3
オタマジャクシ Member
Posts:1,310 Threads:32 Joined:Nov 2012
What is this fascination some people have with the Masons?

I can't see that they have done anything remarkable other than make great canning jars...
10-14-2013, 12:21 AM #4
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
Administration on all forums can read the PMs,,,not everybody

is aware of that little fact,,,doubt the Masons are running any

forums,,,but their own,,,but I don't know this as a fact,,,

or sure why it would matter,,,seems there are some Masons out there

trying to defend Masons,,,on the conspiracy sites,,,not sure why,,,

but they usually out themselves,,,so no big secret...

(:X
10-14-2013, 12:28 AM #5
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
(10-14-2013, 12:12 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  What is this fascination some people have with the Masons?

I can't see that they have done anything remarkable other than make great canning jars...

yeah that is the conclusion I have come to as well,,,after years of

reading the conspiracy stuff,,,and doing my own studying,,,and knowing

some,,,I just don't get it,,,other than if a group of people want to have

some secrets to feel special,,,that is a big deal,,,and the secrets have

all been put out there by many over the years,,,should not tell a million

plus people,,,if you want to keep a secret...

(:X
10-14-2013, 01:11 AM #6
Screaming Yellow Zonkers Member
Posts:2,706 Threads:265 Joined:Apr 2013
No no, the PM reading and banning is old news. It's the rest of it I found so odd.
The deleting his messages, and then in activating his profile, as if the Masons were coming to get him...
I'm not sure it's a him either. His profile says him, but it labels itself queen of something. Not sure sure...

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10-14-2013, 01:13 AM #7
Screaming Yellow Zonkers Member
Posts:2,706 Threads:265 Joined:Apr 2013
(10-14-2013, 12:28 AM)Softy Wrote:  
(10-14-2013, 12:12 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  What is this fascination some people have with the Masons?

I can't see that they have done anything remarkable other than make great canning jars...

yeah that is the conclusion I have come to as well,,,after years of

reading the conspiracy stuff,,,and doing my own studying,,,and knowing

some,,,I just don't get it,,,other than if a group of people want to have

some secrets to feel special,,,that is a big deal,,,and the secrets have

all been put out there by many over the years,,,should not tell a million

plus people,,,if you want to keep a secret...

(:X

People feel Masons are behind the illuminati etc. NWO.
I think it's the opposite, but who knows

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10-14-2013, 01:41 AM #8
オタマジャクシ Member
Posts:1,310 Threads:32 Joined:Nov 2012
(10-14-2013, 01:13 AM)MEDUSA Wrote:  
(10-14-2013, 12:28 AM)Softy Wrote:  
(10-14-2013, 12:12 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  What is this fascination some people have with the Masons?

I can't see that they have done anything remarkable other than make great canning jars...

yeah that is the conclusion I have come to as well,,,after years of

reading the conspiracy stuff,,,and doing my own studying,,,and knowing

some,,,I just don't get it,,,other than if a group of people want to have

some secrets to feel special,,,that is a big deal,,,and the secrets have

all been put out there by many over the years,,,should not tell a million

plus people,,,if you want to keep a secret...

(:X

People feel Masons are behind the illuminati etc. NWO.
I think it's the opposite, but who knows

So most people think the Masons are behind the Illuminaughty but you think they are in front of the Illuminaughty. What difference does it make?
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10-14-2013, 01:46 AM #9
MASKED ADMIN Incognito Anonymous
 
Quote:Administration on all forums can read the PMs,,,not everybody

is aware of that little fact

I've heard this before many times

I have a forum and I've searched and searched to see if this was possible, and I cant find any way to do this. I have heard there is a downloadable Plug in that an Admin can use. I cant find any evidence of that being available either.

In my CPANEL I can see where the PMs / DMs are stored and the amount of disc space they use, but I cant access them.

Im not saying this is not possible, because a Coder could write his own script.

Im saying I cant do it.

Any other forum owners past or present want to chime in on this?
10-14-2013, 02:27 AM #10
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,612 Threads:1,469 Joined:Feb 2011
I'm not aware of any such features, but I can't say we've looked for ways to read PMs. That's just bad form.

I'm sure it can be done though. 13.gif
10-14-2013, 02:38 AM #11
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
Posts:31,283 Threads:1,438 Joined:Feb 2011
Anything can be coded with relative ease on most major forum platforms, but they don't come "out of the box" with the ability for admins and mods to read your personal messages.

I don't believe the majority of forum owners bother with these types of NSA style modifications, but yes; it certainly it does happen.

Sadly.

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10-14-2013, 02:54 AM #12
MASKED ADMIN Incognito Anonymous
 
(10-14-2013, 02:27 AM)Octo Wrote:  I'm not aware of any such features, but I can't say we've looked for ways to read PMs. That's just bad form.

I'm sure it can be done though. 13.gif

I searched to see if it was possible because I see so many posts saying its being done. Bad form for sure, but I also believe it may be crime.

Even if the people doing it are the Paying Owners of the forum. Ill shoot a E mail out to the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) and see if I can get some more information on this.
10-14-2013, 02:57 AM #13
オタマジャクシ Member
Posts:1,310 Threads:32 Joined:Nov 2012
(10-14-2013, 02:38 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  Anything can be coded with relative ease on most major forum platforms, but they don't come "out of the box" with the ability for admins and mods to read your personal messages.

I don't believe the majority of forum owners bother with these types of NSA style modifications, but yes; it certainly it does happen.

Sadly.

I'm sure all the CIA backed forums would make these modifications as a routine part of the site set-up.
10-14-2013, 03:13 AM #14
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
Well,,,should back up what I say,,,never a problem,,,

A friend of mine runs a board using Invision Power Board v2.0.4.

Is it possible that he or the other admins can access & read private messages sent between users?

Certain questions posed to me lately have made me a wee bit paranoid.

Thanks for your help!

Most forum systems make that possible through the Admin interface, sure. I'm not sure if IPB has this feature, but if your friend has access to the database he can certainly read them.

http://www.theadminzone.com/forums/showt...hp?t=15568

the adminzone,,,forum for the administrators,,,of course NSA can read them,,,

I was a part of a forum for a year where there was suspicions that the admin was reading our PM's. Many people gathered proof, and when he could no longer deny it, he posted an "apology" to everyone saying yes, he indeed did read the site members PM's over the entire year.

The can be read, and they have been read. Needless to say, many people left that site, and will never use Simple Machines again.

Jade made the following comment on April 26, 2009, 09:05:05 PM:

Personal messages on ANY forum are stored in a database, anyone with sufficient knowledge can read them. Your host and ISP can read your emails too as far as I know.

Simple Machines does not say reading PMs is impossible, we say we are against it, and will not provide a means to do it.



Saying you wont use SMF is just silly. phpBB, IPB, VB, and EVERY other forum with personal messaging stores the data in a database, or a file system - either way someone with knowledge and access CAN read them. SMF will not be providing an interface for any such activity.

Anyone with database access can read pm's.
No way of getting round that. Deleting them from your inbox/sent wont do it either.
You either got to trust those with access or dont send anything that you wouldnt want to be public.
I am not the sort to stick my nose into others business......I cannot speak for other admins.

Whilst it is not specifically SMF software at fault, perhaps within the registration 'schpeel' there could be a section addressing this......

...from the administration of this forum.

The sending and recieving of private messages is not a secure method for transmitting sensitive or personal information. Messages are stored on a secure database but are accessible and readable by those with password access to the database.

http://docs.simplemachines.org/index.php?topic=451.0

easy peeze pudding pie,,,any forum,,,with password database access,,,but someone

always has that access...

(:X
10-14-2013, 03:24 AM #15
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
Most forum systems make that possible through the Admin interface, sure.

from above,,,pay attention to that statement,,,now most of the free forums,,,

where you have multiple "Administrators" under one website in effect,,,

are not really "Administrators",,,and their magical powers are extremely

limited...

(:X



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