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Oh for gawdz sake: Microsoft now uses Windows 10's Start menu to display ads!
10-15-2015, 05:43 PM #1
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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İmage

We've all become used to the idea of ads online -- it's something that has become part and parcel of using the internet -- but in Windows? If you've updated to build 10565 of Windows 10, you're in for something of a surprise: the Start menu is now being used to display ads.

We're not talking about ads for vïäģřå, prawn, or anything like that, but ads for apps. Of course, Microsoft is not describing them as ads; 'Suggested apps' has a much more approachable and fluffy feel to it. Maybe. This is a 'feature' that's currently only being shown to Windows Insiders, but it could spread to everyone else. Will it be well-received?
Read more: betanews.com

I can see why Microsoft is touting this spyware as the last Windows version.
I was waiting on installing this until they worked the bugs out as I was less than impressed with it, but now, I doubt I'll ever install the gawd damned thing.
The new start menu is recockulous to begin with.

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10-15-2015, 06:07 PM #2
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Well you are gonna love this shït:

Windows 10 upgrade nags become more aggressive, offer no opt-out


Quote:Reports are circulating that some users are being presented with dialog boxes that only give them the option to start the upgrade process or reschedule it for a later date. Others are finding that the Windows Update screen is only offering them the option to begin the upgrade process, with other system updates being hidden from view.

Looks like it is about time to do that OS switchover you mentioned.

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10-16-2015, 12:41 AM #3
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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I booted up one morning , and lucky me , I suddenly
had the little icon prompting me to upgrade to win10

and hell no , I didn't

I have tried to get that app off my laptop

so far , can't find a way to get it out yet .

However , this laptop is windows 7 professional

hee hee
I have a reload disk for the OS

I can reload it over and over starting fresh every day if I choose .

one of my other laptops is a big Acer with windows 7 home premium

I seldom use it , it's still new , even though 2 years old .

the other two laptops are running Windows XP Pro

and those two are way faster then the two with windows 7

HA !
10-16-2015, 12:43 AM #4
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Thats the Acer

note how clean the keyboard and touch pad are

I paid $15 at an Estate Sale for it .

Nice ?

fekk yeah
10-16-2015, 11:57 AM #5
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Here's how to get rid of windows 10 upgrade stuff for the foreseeable future.



From Win7/Vista/8 IMPORTANT ONE IS GROUP POLICY (gpedit.msc):

Go to Control Panel, Administrative Templates, System
Internet Communication Management, Internet Communication Settings

ENABLE (to turn it on, it is a disabler)

"Turn off Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program"

(IF YOU HAVE Windows "home" (less than Pro models), export the section of the registry involved from a Pro system & merge the .reg file you exported - should work well enough to do the job here for those of you using that lesser model of Windows)

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TO REMOVE THE BOGUS OPTIONAL TELEMETRY HOTFIXES MANUALLY:

Open command prompt
Type powershell
issue these commands

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TO SEE WHAT ONES ARE INSTALLED:

get-hotfix -id KB3035583, KB2952664,KB2976978,KB3021917,KB3044374,KB2990214

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TO UNINSTALL THEM (these for sure, per url next below):

wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583
wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664
wusa /uninstall /kb:2976978
wusa /uninstall /kb:3021917
wusa /uninstall /kb:3044374
wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214

per http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how-to-...s-7-and-8/

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DESCRIPTIONS OF EACH (these uninstalled properly):

KB3068708 (Telemetry)
KB3075249 (Telemetry)
KB3080149 (Telemetry)

KB3022345 (Telemetry)
KB2977759 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
KB3021917 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparatioon + Telemetry)
KB3035583 (Windows 10 upgrade preparation)

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I GOT "NOT INSTALLED ON THIS COMPUTER" ON THESE INITIALLY SINCE I HAD IE11 installed (PROBABLY ONES FOR IE9/10/11 &/or Windows 10 (I use Win7 here)):

KB3075249
KB3080149
KB2505438
* KB2670838 (See IE 9/10/11 notes below)
KB3044374
KB2990214 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
KB2505438 (Although it claims to fix performance issues, it often breaks fonts)
KB2976978 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)

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I GOT "NOT INSTALLED ON THIS COMPUTER" ON THESE (*PRIOR* TO PULLING KB2670838):

* KB2670838 (This update often breaks AERO on Windows 7 and makes some fonts on websites fuzzy. A Windows 7 specific update only
(do not install IE10 or 11 otherwise it will be bundled with them, IE9 is the max version you should install to avoid this).

THESE RE-APPEAR AFTER UNINSTALLING IE11 RIGHT ON RESTARTING & CHECKING WINDOWS UPDATE:

* KB2952664 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation prior to IE9/10/11 install)
* KB3021917 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation prior to IE9/10/11 install)
* KB3068708 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation prior to IE9/10/11 install)
* KB3092627 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation prior to IE9/10/11 install)

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run cmd as administrator

sc stop Diagtrack
sc delete Diagtrack

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*Task Scheduler Library:

Everything under "Application Experience"
Everything under "Autochk"
Everything under "Customer Experience Improvement Program"
Under "Disk Diagnostic" only the "Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataCollector"
Under "Maintenance" "WinSAT"
"Media Center" and click the "status" column, then select all non-disabled entries and disable them.

*services.msc:

"Remote Registry" to "Disabled" instead of "Manual"

It takes some doing, but it's not that difficult. Maybe 30 minutes worth of crapola to ensure 10 no longer screws with you.
After doing all that, turn your automatic updates off. The updates of late are less to do with security and more to do with poking holes in your OS.

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10-16-2015, 03:36 PM #6
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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Sure is a lot of trouble for a bloated OS.

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10-16-2015, 03:46 PM #7
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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No kidding. 15.gif

This could work for windows users... https://www.qubes-os.org/

Runs all windows apps.

You know it'll fall on deaf ear 'cause ewwww... linux. Hahahah... microtards.

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10-16-2015, 04:30 PM #8
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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Yeah, running a virtual box has been a decent solution for those few apps that are truly needed.

These days though, Windows is just not 'needed' by 99% of the computers out there. There are able Linux versions of the same thing, and further more, most "things" done with a computer these days are web-based anyway.

It does not MATTER what OS the computer has installed, so wtf PAY more for the OS than most of the hardware components? Why pay at all?

It's a toaster that plugs into the internet. Do you want 2 slices or 4? And the number of slices has nothing what-so-ever to do with the OS.
10-16-2015, 04:46 PM #9
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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To carry the analogy forward...

Yeah there are a lot of toasters out there. They run from free (multi-tasking your oven) to a couple of hundred bux. They all toast bread ~ some even bagels and artisan breads with weird shapes.

Some allow you to check the toast without interrupting the cycle and some have motorized loading.

Even with toasters that offer bells, whistles, rotate the tires and de-worm the dog it comes down to the brand name of the appliance.

Think of the Windows brand toaster that not only looks shiny in it's corner of the kitchen, but insists that all other appliances plug into it like some giant hub for all productivity in the kitchen.

Think of your kitchen with only one electrical outlet. Yeah, you'll be going hungry soon.

But wait, there's more! Soon, that appliance will control everything in the house, record all your intimate moments and financial info and spread it out via its single outlet to the entire world, and you'll even thank it for commandeering your tv and computers with advertising.

Hell, you'll even sign-up to work for the mother-ship corporation with free-labor maintaining the toaster guts by installing anti-virus-malware-trojans-spyware-etc-ad-nauseam in an effort to keep the beast in the kitchen corner functioning.

İmage
10-16-2015, 07:04 PM #10
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Yeah , but the free toaster has a command prompt... ewww we cant google and type rofl.gif

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10-16-2015, 07:11 PM #11
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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(10-16-2015, 07:04 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Yeah , but the free toaster has a command prompt... ewww we cant google and type rofl.gif

So does Windows, but that's not the point.

Seriously, one can run a Linux Mint machine for years and NEVER open a terminal window. I have little old ladies doing it all the time. They love it ~ and they do their one-click updates all by themselves! The only time they call on their favorite neighborhood geek is when there's a new version upgrade.

Personally, I think it might be fear of the unknown, but it's probably only the hobbled thinking that for anything to have value it must cost a lot of money that is the root of Linux avoidance.
10-16-2015, 07:34 PM #12
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(10-16-2015, 07:11 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:  Personally, I think it might be fear of the unknown, but it's probably only the hobbled thinking that for anything to have value it must cost a lot of money that is the root of Linux avoidance.
Agreed... and it's sorta' got a facebook dumb shït thing goin' on 'cause "all my friends are on it"
I'm the exception as you can't run AutoCad, Adobe Creative Suite, or high end DAW's on Linux, but most people don't touch the stuff I work with, or even know what the heck any of that stuff is.
Most mobile users and chrome book users don't even know they are on a Linux variant. The ignorance mojo is strong when it comes to this.

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10-16-2015, 07:42 PM #13
Octo Mother Superior
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If You’re Not Paranoid, You’re Crazy

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arch...zy/407833/

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10-16-2015, 07:59 PM #14
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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(10-16-2015, 07:34 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(10-16-2015, 07:11 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:  Personally, I think it might be fear of the unknown, but it's probably only the hobbled thinking that for anything to have value it must cost a lot of money that is the root of Linux avoidance.
Agreed... and it's sorta' got a facebook dumb shït thing goin' on 'cause "all my friends are on it"
I'm the exception as you can't run AutoCad, Adobe Creative Suite, or high end DAW's on Linux, but most people don't touch the stuff I work with, or even know what the heck any of that stuff is.
Most mobile users and chrome book users don't even know they are on a Linux variant. The ignorance mojo is strong when it comes to this.

1st thing I think of when it comes to that argument is AutoCad. The other argument was Photoshop ~ but I can do stuff with GIMP that would make yer eyeballs bleed, so that's not even an argument now. I canna speak to audio or video stuff, but I do know there's a lot of Linux software devoted to it.

However, I'm betting you don't use your business rig for web browsing (much) and prefer one of your Linux rigs to slog around on the internets. Eh?

To me it's maximizing resources and making using the computer hassle free.
10-16-2015, 08:01 PM #15
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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(10-16-2015, 07:42 PM)Octo Wrote:  If You’re Not Paranoid, You’re Crazy

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arch...zy/407833/

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More truth in that article than I care to ponder... damned.gif



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