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01-06-2013, 04:34 PM #16
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(01-06-2013, 04:31 PM)Octo Wrote:  I noticed extreme weather has been occurring in the big grain producing countries such as the US, Russia and Australia.

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Do they also produce beef? I was just wondering if the methane gas released from food animals may also contribute to climate change there.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/zoology...ne-cow.htm
01-06-2013, 04:37 PM #17
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Not certain US, and I keep a close eye on it. All I can say for sure is climate change is real, however, it always has and always will be. Over all climate is notoriously unstable, and always has been.
As I see it, pollution is THE number one problem, not CO2 emissions.
In fact, when you look at the history thereof via ice cores, it becomes clear the more Co2 in the atmosphere the colder it actually gets.
That's the mistake Gore made by inverting the graph, it actually gave the exact opposite results of what naturally occurs.

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01-06-2013, 04:43 PM #18
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I agree, Bovine flatulence is the actual cause of the climate change.
Maybe if we banned everything, we would have a better world.
Today I'm going to protest the big Unicorn hunt being planned in my area.

There's plenty of room for all God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes!
01-06-2013, 04:51 PM #19
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omg.gif Er meh Gerd! Not the unicolons! beerbong.gif

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01-06-2013, 04:53 PM #20
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(01-06-2013, 04:37 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Not certain US, and I keep a close eye on it. All I can say for sure is climate change is real, however, it always has and always will be. Over all climate is notoriously unstable, and always has been.
As I see it, pollution is THE number one problem, not CO2 emissions.
In fact, when you look at the history thereof via ice cores, it becomes clear the more Co2 in the atmosphere the colder it actually gets.
That's the mistake Gore made by inverting the graph, it actually gave the exact opposite results of what naturally occurs.


Quote: Last year, all the world’s nations combined pumped nearly 38.2 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide into the air from the burning of fossil fuels such as coal and oil, according to new international calculations on global emissions published Sunday in the journal Nature Climate Change. That’s about a billion tonnes more than the previous year.

The total amounts to more than 1.1 million kilograms of carbon dioxide released into the air every second.

Because emissions of the key greenhouse gas have been rising steadily and most carbon stays in the air for a century, it is not just unlikely, but ‘‘rather optimistic’’ to think that the world can limit future temperature increases to two degrees Celsius, said the study’s lead author, Glen Peters at the Center for International Climate and Environmental Research in Oslo, Norway.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/8028716/W...bs-steeply

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01-06-2013, 04:58 PM #21
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(01-06-2013, 04:34 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(01-06-2013, 04:31 PM)Octo Wrote:  I noticed extreme weather has been occurring in the big grain producing countries such as the US, Russia and Australia.

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Do they also produce beef? I was just wondering if the methane gas released from food animals may also contribute to climate change there.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/zoology...ne-cow.htm


Russia investing heavily in becoming self sufficient in beef production

Russian President Vladimir Putin has an ambitious plan to cut his country's 3 billion dollars annual import bill for beef. He even aspires to return Russia's beef industry to its pre-revolutionary stature.

Putin wants the country to meet 85% of its own meat needs by 2020, compared with 65% today; he's pumping money into the fledgling meat industry and letting it bring in talent - and cows - from abroad.

“There's no place in the US, Australia or anywhere in the world that will have cattle as good as what they are putting together here,” said Stidham, who was recruited last year after answering an advertisement in a farming publication.

But Russians consume only 17 kilograms of beef per capita annually, or half the US equivalent, reports the Moscow-based National Meat Association, so domestic consumption should have plenty of room to rise.

Russia purchased 1.1 million tons of beef and veal from abroad last year, according to USDA data, the equivalent of about 3.3 million fattened steers. Beef imports were valued at $2.6 billion in 2011, making up about 33% of domestic consumption.

http://en.mercopress.com/2012/07/28/russ...production

World beef statistics
http://www.cattlerange.com/world-beef/world-beef.html
01-06-2013, 05:08 PM #22
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Quote:CO2 rise was created by man.

While this makes sense at first, the jury is still out on this conclusion as well. The oceans contain 37,400 billion tons (GT) of suspended carbon, land biomass has 2000-3000 GT. The atmosphere contains 720 billion tons of CO2 and humans contribute only 6 GT additional load on this balance.

The oceans, land and atmosphere exchange CO2 continuously so the additional load by humans is incredibly small. A small shift in the balance between oceans and air would cause a CO2 much more severe rise than anything we could produce.

The reality is we just don’t know.

http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2008/12...ing-myths/

This is an issue where it's difficult to take a definitive stand for me. Honestly when you have scientists lining up on both sides of the matter, tis difficult to sort out who is telling the truth and for what agenda are each schilling for?

Closer to home, it's a normal Finnish winter with below normal temps. All the global warming alarmists predicted tropics for us by now.

Sea Ice Sets All Time Record High - September 30, 2012 http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/...cord-high/

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01-06-2013, 05:14 PM #23
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THE coldest weather for 30 years has brought temperatures as low as minus 40 degrees Celsius and left about 260,000 people in need of emergency aid in northern China's Inner Mongolia region, state media says.

The cold spell killed at least two people and about 180,000 head of livestock, affecting some 770,000 people across Inner Mongolia since late December, the Xinhua news agency said on Sunday.

More than 3700 people were evacuated, the agency quoted local officials as saying.

China's average winter temperatures since late November were the lowest for 28 years, the Meteorological Administration said on Saturday.

In Mongolia, an independent nation that borders Inner Mongolia, temperatures as low as minus 50 degrees Celsius were recorded, Xinhua reported from Ulan Bator.

The agency quoted the Mongolian government as saying snow up to 1.3 metres deep had covered more than 80 per cent of the country, cutting roads and endangering livestock in many areas.

http://www.news.com.au/world/china-shive...6548545945

I think it's rather jet stream anomalies than flatulence. 13.gif
01-06-2013, 05:29 PM #24
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So far it's been a mild winter in BC. The coldest we've seen was -20. Generally the coldest weather hits around christmas or early Jan. It used to get to -40 for about two weeks late Dec, haven't seen that for maybe 15 years.
01-06-2013, 05:34 PM #25
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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01-06-2013, 05:48 PM #26
Octo Mother Superior
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I have to watch that whole movie! beercheer.gif
01-06-2013, 08:47 PM #27
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(01-06-2013, 04:34 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(01-06-2013, 04:31 PM)Octo Wrote:  I noticed extreme weather has been occurring in the big grain producing countries such as the US, Russia and Australia.

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Do they also produce beef? I was just wondering if the methane gas released from food animals may also contribute to climate change there.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/zoology...ne-cow.htm



If cattle were causing climate issues then there would have been climate issues when there were as many as 60 million bison roaming the US. There are only an estimated 39 million cows in the US. Regardless of what PETA would lead you to believe, cows are not causing climate change.

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I am not your carpet ride I am the sky
I am not your blowing wind, I am the lightning
I am not your autumn moon, I am the night
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01-06-2013, 09:32 PM #28
Octo Mother Superior
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PETA, pfft.

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01-08-2013, 10:00 PM #29
Octo Mother Superior
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Australia forecasters forced to extend charts as temperatures soar to a catastrophic 54°C.

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-54-C.html

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01-08-2013, 10:56 PM #30
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(01-06-2013, 08:47 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(01-06-2013, 04:34 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(01-06-2013, 04:31 PM)Octo Wrote:  I noticed extreme weather has been occurring in the big grain producing countries such as the US, Russia and Australia.

spock.gif


Do they also produce beef? I was just wondering if the methane gas released from food animals may also contribute to climate change there.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/zoology...ne-cow.htm



If cattle were causing climate issues then there would have been climate issues when there were as many as 60 million bison roaming the US. There are only an estimated 39 million cows in the US. Regardless of what PETA would lead you to believe, cows are not causing climate change.


Just asking a question and searching for answers.

Quote:Our Global Kitchen also serves up alternatives to environmentally disastrous meat production, which uses 75 percent of the land dedicated to agriculture for grazing and growing feed for livestock, whose belching produces 18 to 50 percent of all anthropogenic greenhouse gases. There are display cases which illustrate high-tech alternatives like culturing animal cells to create "test tube beef," something even a vegetarian could partake of with a clear conscience. There are also models of closed tank systems for breeding fish, which would be non-polluting and relieve the pressure on wild stocks of current fish farms.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-sc...97924.html

http://www.carbonwarroom.com/sectors/agr.../livestock



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