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Olé! $125 Billion bailout for Spanish banks!
06-10-2012, 11:09 PM #46
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(06-10-2012, 08:38 PM)misterbumps Wrote:  stop giving money to the banks, start spending money on creating jobs. fifty five percent youth unemployment in spain. money given to banks because of devaluation of properties they reposessed in the first place. how about those who lost houses, are forced to rent and a whole fricking generation unable to buy their own home....wtf2.gif


Mr "B"

i think buying a house is engaging in criminal activity

been a while
but used to be able to go out and homestead a parcel of land and build a house on it.
FREE!

The planet is not lacking open space for that.
06-10-2012, 11:18 PM #47
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now this is the situation on building your home out of natural FREE resouces.


#1. All forest products are either OWNED by Corporations like Weyerhauser
or georgia Pacific
or,,,, anywhere there are tree's, it is made a state park

#2. Used to be able to build a home from natural river stone
Law was passed
you cannot take minerals, meaning: boulders, gravel, cement

You HAVE TO BUY THE MATERIALS FROMA QUARRY OR OUTLET THE QUARRY SUPPLIES WITH THE MATERIALS.

YOU HAVE TO BUY WOOD FROM SUPPLIERS.

You cannot buy BLM land
BLM auctions it off to developers
Developers add on HUGE prices and sell it to you.

The land was yours, it states, belongs to the PUBLIC
yet,,,
YOU have to buy it back from developers.

what it means: it means BLM is stealing YOUR land and selling off,
to people who sell YOUR land back to you at price so high

you have to go to a BANk to buy your money in a loand to buy
your land back with money you own that is sold to you.

06-10-2012, 11:32 PM #48
misterbumps Member
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(06-10-2012, 11:09 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  
(06-10-2012, 08:38 PM)misterbumps Wrote:  stop giving money to the banks, start spending money on creating jobs. fifty five percent youth unemployment in spain. money given to banks because of devaluation of properties they reposessed in the first place. how about those who lost houses, are forced to rent and a whole fricking generation unable to buy their own home....wtf2.gif


Mr "B"

i think buying a house is engaging in criminal activity

been a while
but used to be able to go out and homestead a parcel of land and build a house on it.
FREE!

The planet is not lacking open space for that.


I quite agree. I have friends who build and restore mud and stud and straw bale housing using techniques from the sixteen hundreds. They refuse to use power tools, make a lime mortar, hew and adze wood and basically make homes with next to nothing. It utilizes a lot of hard human graft but is kind to the planet. I dream of the day I can just go and grab a bit of land and do that. The government over here green belts land to the average person but happily gives it away to the corporate swine.

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?
06-10-2012, 11:42 PM #49
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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here are a few of the Alternitive sources for home building

!. Stone, but as we know
it's been stolen

2. Cob, which is Sand and Clay mixed,,,free materials you can get almost anywhere

problem?
Cob Houses have been outlawed almost everywhere in the states.

3. Straw bale houses
at anywhere from $1.50 to about $4 a bale
this made house building pretty dang cheap
you could build a Modest one without having to take out a loan.
FROM A BANK

Guess what

thats right
straw bale houses have been outlawed almost everywhere as well.

Homestead Act
Recinded, because, you may not go into debt if you do not have to pay HUGE thousands or millions for land to live on.
06-10-2012, 11:48 PM #50
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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never mind
you beat me to the post reply buttonlmao.gif
06-11-2012, 12:00 AM #51
misterbumps Member
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straw bale houses are banned in US? what reason do they give? They tried to say mud and stud was a fire risk here but my friend adds charcoal to the mud and straw mix and because the oak he uses is mainly heart wood and not sap the buildings are actually very resistant to fire. Even straw bale houses can be risk minimal.

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?
06-11-2012, 12:04 AM #52
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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i could google the laws on it
but too lazy right nowchuckle.gif



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