Quote:Pakistan’s minister for religious minorities, who had opposed the country’s harsh blasphemy laws, was shot dead in Islamabad on Wednesday, according to local police.

Shahbaz Bhatti, the only Christian member of the cabinet, was the second senior member of the ruling Pakistan People’s party to be gunned down in two months.

In early January, Salman Taseer, the governor of Punjab province, who had also called for reforms to the blasphemy laws, was assassinated in Islamabad by one of his bodyguards.

Read it all at FT.com

Great way to silence your opponents eh? The article goes on to describe "an outpouring of popular sympathy for Mr Taseer’s killer"

I've said it many time before, the next big war will be against the Muslims. When a group of religious fanatics follow a religion that says kill all nonbelievers and that group spreads all over the earth, there will be trouble. You won't even have to be a Christian fanatic once the random decapitations start.


I was in Atlanta when the Rodney King riots went down. The tension would pick up in an area and then seem to settle down a bit. Then, a little later, it would pick up in another area and then settle down a bit. Finally, it seemed to boil over and move into downtown. I was watching the live reports on CNN with my dad, step-mother and a few family friends. Something we noticed, that was never mentioned on tv, was that one particular guy with a bullhorn was there instigating it every time the tension would start to boil.

A crowd of passionate believers and one guy (read operative) with a bullhorn was all it took.

(03-02-2011, 05:18 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  I've said it many time before, the next big war will be against the Muslims. When a group of religious fanatics follow a religion that says kill all nonbelievers and that group spreads all over the earth, there will be trouble. You won't even have to be a Christian fanatic once the random decapitations start.

What I don't understand about this way of thinking, is it's Muslims being bombed but they're the danger? Iraq never harmed or threatened to harm the US, complied with the UN, had nothing to do with 9/11, yet the US has been attacking them since '03 and they're the threat? And justified by saying they 'want to kill all non-believers', when it's Western powers that are killing them? Over a million Iraqis killed in the last 8 years, 4 million refugees, 2.5 million orphans, their countries anexxed by corporations, but they're the problem? No. Think about it. The same lies have been told to justify wars for years. There is no doubt in my mind who the real terrorists are, and they don't send their kids to war.

(03-03-2011, 03:32 PM)Shadow Wrote:  

(03-02-2011, 05:18 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  I've said it many time before, the next big war will be against the Muslims. When a group of religious fanatics follow a religion that says kill all nonbelievers and that group spreads all over the earth, there will be trouble. You won't even have to be a Christian fanatic once the random decapitations start.

What I don't understand about this way of thinking, is it's Muslims being bombed but they're the danger? Iraq never harmed or threatened to harm the US, complied with the UN, had nothing to do with 9/11, yet the US has been attacking them since '03 and they're the threat? And justified by saying they 'want to kill all non-believers', when it's Western powers that are killing them? Over a million Iraqis killed in the last 8 years, 4 million refugees, 2.5 million orphans, their countries anexxed by corporations, but they're the problem? No. Think about it. The same lies have been told to justify wars for years. There is no doubt in my mind who the real terrorists are, and they don't send their kids to war.

It's apparent to me that an enemy has been willfully created. A created enemy can not be defeated and, of course remains ever elusive. The perfect excuse to occupy more and more regions where the fabricated enemy is, according to officials... hiding.

Bush summed it up best when he said

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
-Hermann Goering

It's proven incredibly effective to sell the fear and hate.

(03-03-2011, 04:46 PM)Shadow Wrote:  â€œNaturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
-Hermann Goering

It's proven incredibly effective to sell the fear and hate.

(03-03-2011, 04:08 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  It's apparent to me that an enemy has been willfully created.

You get it.


Rereading my post, I see I wasn't very good at explaining myself. Damn ADD distractions...

My point with the reference to the Atlanta riots was that a man with a bullhorn was planted to incite an already passionate crowd. Once he got one group rioting, he was moved to the next. (Then to the next, etc.) Students were being blamed for the rioting, but if you had been there and seen the live, unedited coverage you would have seen that one guy and some gang members leading the packs. (The gang members were simply easier to instigate.) The students were hesitant to riot until they got caught up in the energy of the situation. Think of the Atlanta riots as an experiment in public reaction.

Now, apply that to a larger picture. Say... scattered riots and beheadings across Europe. Pretty much like the Mohammad cartoon riots, but on a larger scale. (More experimenting?) Now the riots spread to Canada. (Going to Canada next will get the Murkins REALLY nervous.)
Do all of this on top of outrageous gas prices (And all the other higher costs of living that go along with it.) and perhaps have it happen during the sweltering heat of summer when tempers are already short. Voila! Instant world wide religious war.

Of course, you would have to throw in some serious targets. A school maybe? Some churches during service? A concert with 65K people in attendance? A dirty bomb in NY? (Sorry Yankees.) It really isn't difficult to manipulate emotions and that's all they have to do. Fear is a tremendous weapon.

By the way, after thinking about it I remembered the guy with the bullhorn was mention during a live broadcast. Once. One of the broadcasters made a background comment that they had seen that same guy at every active area. It was never mentioned again and it was the last we saw of him.