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Physicists: Consciousness Is A State Of Matter, Like a Solid, A Liquid Or A Gas!
01-17-2014, 04:31 PM #1
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Quote:A new way of thinking about consciousness is sweeping through science like wildfire.

Now physicists are using it to formulate the problem of consciousness in concrete mathematical terms for the first time

[...] while the problem of consciousness is far from being solved, it is finally being formulated mathematically as a set of problems that researchers can understand, explore and discuss.

[...] Tegmark’s approach is to think of consciousness as a state of matter, like a solid, a liquid or a gas. “I conjecture that consciousness can be understood as yet another state of matter. Just as there are many types of liquids, there are many types of consciousness,” he says.

He goes on to show how the particular properties of consciousness might arise from the physical laws that govern our universe. And he explains how these properties allow physicists to reason about the conditions under which consciousness arises and how we might exploit it to better understand why the world around us appears as it does.
Read more: medium.com

Physicists are exploring the idea that consciousness arises from quantum mechanical phenomena in the brain!

Quote:[...]Physicist Roger Penrose, of the University of Oxford, and anesthesiologist Stuart Hameroff, of the University of Arizona, propose that the brain acts as a quantum computer — a computational machine that makes use of quantum mechanical phenomena (like the ability of particles to be in two places at once) to perform complex calculations. In the brain, fibers inside neurons could form the basic units of quantum computation, Penrose and Hameroff explained at the Global Future 2045 International Congress, a futuristic conference held here June 15-16.

The idea is appealing, because neuroscience, so far, has no satisfactory explanation for consciousness — the state of being self-aware and having sensory experiences and thoughts.[...]
- See more at: livescience.com

I know, this is a lot to get your head around, however the evidence is mounting that we create our own reality to some degree, and perceive far more data than we should be able to given the limitations of our brain construct.

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01-17-2014, 04:38 PM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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That's very interesting. We do receive vastly more information than we're ever aware of, so what decides what we become aware of? hmm.gif
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01-17-2014, 08:25 PM #3
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01-17-2014, 08:43 PM #4
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(01-17-2014, 08:25 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  bump!

Bump? This aint glp!

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01-17-2014, 09:01 PM #5
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This is one of my favourite things to muse about. Here's an interesting read. I just sped read over random parts, but this is basically what these scientists are saying:

Quote:If our consciousnesses are “attached” to single electrons, then our “souls” are physical, but immortal. The death of the body does not cause the death of the observer. “Self” remains alive; however, it loses memory and takes primitive form.

http://philpapers.org/archive/ARGNCO.pdf

Pages 279 to 282 have some good information in point form, for a faster take on this.

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01-17-2014, 09:34 PM #6
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(01-17-2014, 08:25 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  bump!

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01-17-2014, 09:36 PM #7
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Theoretical physicist

Why cant we all just imagine things then get paid?? Like string theory I've yet to figure that one out 13.gif
01-17-2014, 10:25 PM #8
Octo Mother Superior
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(01-17-2014, 09:01 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  This is one of my favourite things to muse about. Here's an interesting read. I just sped read over random parts, but this is basically what these scientists are saying:

Quote:If our consciousnesses are “attached” to single electrons, then our “souls” are physical, but immortal. The death of the body does not cause the death of the observer. “Self” remains alive; however, it loses memory and takes primitive form.

http://philpapers.org/archive/ARGNCO.pdf

Pages 279 to 282 have some good information in point form, for a faster take on this.

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Very cool, I saved that file. cheers.gif

Interesting for sure, this is one of my fav books to this day.

http://www.amazon.com/The-User-Illusion-...0140230122
01-17-2014, 10:39 PM #9
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Yup, the user illusion should be mandatory reading. It shatters every notion you have about perception.
If you could only read one book in your life, I'd recommend this.

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01-17-2014, 11:17 PM #10
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
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(01-17-2014, 10:39 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Yup, the user illusion should be mandatory reading. It shatters every notion you have about perception.
If you could only read one book in your life, I'd recommend this.

Mein Kampf is on $2.00 on kindle......every American shoukd read it that way they can see how much our current "leaders" sound like Hitler. The last 100 pages are just his race rantings but first 200 pages are scary similar.
01-18-2014, 05:22 AM #11
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(01-17-2014, 10:25 PM)Octo Wrote:  
(01-17-2014, 09:01 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  This is one of my favourite things to muse about. Here's an interesting read. I just sped read over random parts, but this is basically what these scientists are saying:

Quote:If our consciousnesses are “attached” to single electrons, then our “souls” are physical, but immortal. The death of the body does not cause the death of the observer. “Self” remains alive; however, it loses memory and takes primitive form.

http://philpapers.org/archive/ARGNCO.pdf

Pages 279 to 282 have some good information in point form, for a faster take on this.

beercheer.gif

Very cool, I saved that file. cheers.gif

Interesting for sure, this is one of my fav books to this day.

http://www.amazon.com/The-User-Illusion-...0140230122

The thing is Octo, that theory would mean that we become ghosts, in the most primitive form, which I don't belive, because if there is an afterlife, then perhaps we have the choice to remember or not, that is our right.
01-18-2014, 05:33 AM #12
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(01-17-2014, 11:17 PM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  
(01-17-2014, 10:39 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Yup, the user illusion should be mandatory reading. It shatters every notion you have about perception.
If you could only read one book in your life, I'd recommend this.

Mein Kampf is on $2.00 on kindle......every American shoukd read it that way they can see how much our current "leaders" sound like Hitler. The last 100 pages are just his race rantings but first 200 pages are scary similar.

yup.gif Read it when I was in my late teens. Very interesting.

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01-18-2014, 08:58 AM #13
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(01-18-2014, 05:33 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(01-17-2014, 11:17 PM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  
(01-17-2014, 10:39 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Yup, the user illusion should be mandatory reading. It shatters every notion you have about perception.
If you could only read one book in your life, I'd recommend this.

Mein Kampf is on $2.00 on kindle......every American shoukd read it that way they can see how much our current "leaders" sound like Hitler. The last 100 pages are just his race rantings but first 200 pages are scary similar.

yup.gif Read it when I was in my late teens. Very interesting.

Im reading animal farm now 13.gif
01-18-2014, 06:24 PM #14
Octo Mother Superior
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(01-18-2014, 05:22 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  The thing is Octo, that theory would mean that we become ghosts, in the most primitive form, which I don't belive, because if there is an afterlife, then perhaps we have the choice to remember or not, that is our right.

I like to believe we know it all until we choose to be born into this realm. Then we start forgetting. dunno.gif


Quote:Jan. 13 (UPI) -- The Japanese supercomputer K Computer successfully calculated and created a simulation of just one second of human brain activity, taking 40 minutes to do so.

The K computer, the fourth most powerful computer in the world, used its 705,024 processor cores and 1.4 million GB of RAM to process the data, but still took 40 minutes to process a single second of human brain activity.


Read more: http://www.upi.com/blog/2014/01/13/Super...389645205/



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