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A HOMELESS NOBODY Show this Post
12-11-2012, 09:08 PM #1
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Please sing this petition to help bring an innocent man home, whos only crime was trying to live off the grid


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitio...e/VLpNf47b


http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/12/09/flo...ican-jail/


South Florida family is pleading for help after their son, a former Marine, was imprisoned in Mexico.

Jon Hammar, 27, was just driving through on his way to Costa Rica when he was stopped at the border, his parents said.

“One of the reasons we went public is because we’ve run out of answers,” Olivia Hammar said.
12-11-2012, 11:08 PM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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Quote:Now, the former high school wrestler is sitting in a Mexican prison, accused of trying to bring a shot gun into the country illegally.

“They got it cleared on the U.S. side and were told they had all the paperwork and told to head on,” Hammar said. “But when they got to the Mexico side of the border they were told’ No, you’re going to jail’.”

So shouldn't they have thrown the whole ATF in jail based on that? 13.gif
12-12-2012, 06:31 AM #3
Ruby Wolf Member
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"We have no power to get anyone out of jail,or to represent anyone in a criminal proceeding,if they get in trouble in mexico"...Steve Royster,spokesperson for the US Consulate Office...

Unless your a beautful elite person and then i'm sure there are ways to get help,like buy your way out,or some secret underground railroad ratline type of assistance set up to aide the elite and so i cant wait to go to mexico,meaning,no one could pay me to go there and meanwhile,the cia sells millions upon millions of dollars worth of military grade weapons to the murderous drug cartels,knowing they will murder innocent people again and again with those weapons,but hey,who really cares? because money is deemed more valuable than human life in our fallen world...
12-12-2012, 07:03 AM #4
オタマジャクシ Member
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I don't know what to do with this.

There is an english word for someone who takes a gun without prior permission into a foreign country: dumbass.

Now, the border agent should have helped him with the paperwork and explained the problem to him.

So having his sorry ass rot in prison is to some extent the fault of the US government and they should make at least a superficial effort to get him out.
12-12-2012, 11:09 AM #5
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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All systems kidnap you for ransom if you get out of line. Sometimes you don't even have to do anything wrong at all. Sad, the outdated things that go on with no end.

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12-12-2012, 04:51 PM #6
オタマジャクシ Member
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(12-12-2012, 11:09 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  All systems kidnap you for ransom if you get out of line. Sometimes you don't even have to do anything wrong at all. Sad, the outdated things that go on with no end.


Canada (from my understanding) requires a Non-Resident Firearms Declaration ($25, $50 if one of the guns is a pistol). The guns should be registered with US Customs if you want to bring them back (only registered importers can import guns).

As for Mexico:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html#criminal_penalties
"Firearms Penalties: Illegal firearms trafficking from the United States into Mexico is a major problem. The Department of State warns all U.S. citizens against taking any type of firearm or ammunition into Mexico. Entering Mexico with a firearm, certain types of knives, or even a single round of ammunition is illegal, even if the weapon or ammunition is taken into Mexico unintentionally. The Mexican government strictly enforces laws restricting the entry of firearms and ammunition along all land borders and at airports and seaports, and routinely x-rays all incoming luggage. U.S. citizens entering Mexico with a weapon or ammunition (including a small number of bullets), even accidentally, generally are detained for at least a few days, and violations by U.S. citizens have resulted in arrests, convictions, and long prison sentences. Travelers are strongly advised to thoroughly inspect all belongings prior to travel to Mexico to avoid the accidental import of ammunition or firearms. For more information visit the websites for the Mexican Secretary of Defense and Mexican Customs."


http://www.mexinsider.com/mexican-customs.html
"• Don't bring any drugs - not even small amounts of 'soft' drugs, e.g. cannabis/marijuana. Firearms and dangerous knives are totally illegal in Mexico.
• A foreign Gun Licence is not valid in Mexico; if you own a gun don't take it to Mexico with you. The only exception is a firearm used for hunting purposes; but you will need to apply for a special permit - contact your local Mexican consulate. Caught in possession of illegal firearms can land you in serious trouble - even if you have a licence for it that was issued in your home country."


The smart thing is to store your weapons in a locker on the US side of the border before going into Mexico. It seems pretty obvious that you should check the State Department website before going to another country. But it appears the story is a little more complicated:

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/201...co-121212/
"Jon Hammar and his friend were on their way to Costa Rica in August and planned to drive across the Mexican border near Matamoros in a Winnebago filled with surfboards and camping gear. Hammar, 27, asked U.S. border agents what to do with the unloaded shotgun, which his family said belonged to his great-grandfather.

“They examined it, they weighed it, they said you have to fill out this form,” his father, Jon Hammar, told The Associated Press in a phone interview Tuesday from his home near Miami.

But when the pair crossed the border and handed the paperwork to Mexican officials, they impounded the RV and jailed the men, saying it was illegal to carry that type of gun. Hammar’s friend was later released because the gun did not belong to him.

he family’s attorney said Mexican law prohibits civilians from carrying certain types of guns, such as sawed-off shotguns, which can be more easily concealed. Mexican law prohibits shotguns with a barrel of less than 25 inches (63.5 centimeters). Family attorney Eddie Varon-Levy said Mexican officials measured the barrel on Hammar’s shotgun as 24 inches (61 centimeters)"

12-13-2012, 08:25 AM #7
katherin Member
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I wanted to say about the above topic . i don,t know how old you guys are, but that would be very immature. Plus you don,t know what the guy wants, have you though about that? Get out there and get him if you can, your frined cannot be mad at you if he prefers you.
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12-22-2012, 06:11 PM #8
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