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12-01-2016, 01:25 AM #46
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(12-01-2016, 01:08 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 12:56 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 12:50 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 12:37 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 12:31 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  Touchy are ya?
mercy & peace is all good & that but at some point there is Justice
because idiots want to remain idiots & grow in numbers creating a tipping point
& that justice can be Human or Divine or Nature itself or from the Universe..take your pic

Actually, I am not very touchy, just calling you out on being insulting.

You must define your kind of justice and how it conflicts with the mercy of God.

i made a comment you took for insulting
As for the justice..that's in Scripture

Scripture is not fact is it belief, which varies widely in interpretation. I took your comment in the way it was intended.

Pope has to abide by scripture as defined by church Doctrine & the Doctors of the church
& also why it's used at every mass.

lol..you didn't even answer my question..US..
& speak with a world view thus far it seems
& you feel insulted?
If you know so much about the catholic church/levels involved etc.. let's hear it

As I said previously, it is open to interpretation and yours and mine don't jive.
12-01-2016, 01:32 AM #47
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(12-01-2016, 01:25 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 01:08 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 12:56 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 12:50 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 12:37 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Actually, I am not very touchy, just calling you out on being insulting.

You must define your kind of justice and how it conflicts with the mercy of God.

i made a comment you took for insulting
As for the justice..that's in Scripture

Scripture is not fact is it belief, which varies widely in interpretation. I took your comment in the way it was intended.

Pope has to abide by scripture as defined by church Doctrine & the Doctors of the church
& also why it's used at every mass.

lol..you didn't even answer my question..US..
& speak with a world view thus far it seems
& you feel insulted?
If you know so much about the catholic church/levels involved etc.. let's hear it

As I said previously, it is open to interpretation and yours and mine don't jive.

True.
But again..The point was the pope & the rules of the church.
Rules that have already been laid down well before he came along.

' Welcome to My Nightmare '
12-01-2016, 01:48 AM #48
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(12-01-2016, 01:32 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 01:25 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 01:08 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 12:56 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 12:50 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  i made a comment you took for insulting
As for the justice..that's in Scripture

Scripture is not fact is it belief, which varies widely in interpretation. I took your comment in the way it was intended.

Pope has to abide by scripture as defined by church Doctrine & the Doctors of the church
& also why it's used at every mass.

lol..you didn't even answer my question..US..
& speak with a world view thus far it seems
& you feel insulted?
If you know so much about the catholic church/levels involved etc.. let's hear it

As I said previously, it is open to interpretation and yours and mine don't jive.

True.
But again..The point was the pope & the rules of the church.
Rules that have already been laid down well before he came along.

Well, now the difference here is that this Pope did and still does take a hands-on approach rather than a scholarly one, or an indifferent one, or a mindless automaton one. But he still follows the rules as in women will never become priests (they all cling tightly on to this one) and certain moral acts are still considered wrong, but that mercy and forgiveness be the order of the day. "Who am I to judge" said Pope Francis.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/f...am-i-judge

You may want to ask yourself the same question.
12-01-2016, 02:07 AM #49
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(12-01-2016, 01:48 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 01:32 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 01:25 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 01:08 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 12:56 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Scripture is not fact is it belief, which varies widely in interpretation. I took your comment in the way it was intended.

Pope has to abide by scripture as defined by church Doctrine & the Doctors of the church
& also why it's used at every mass.

lol..you didn't even answer my question..US..
& speak with a world view thus far it seems
& you feel insulted?
If you know so much about the catholic church/levels involved etc.. let's hear it

As I said previously, it is open to interpretation and yours and mine don't jive.

True.
But again..The point was the pope & the rules of the church.
Rules that have already been laid down well before he came along.

Well, now the difference here is that this Pope did and still does take a hands-on approach rather than a scholarly one, or an indifferent one, or a mindless automaton one. But he still follows the rules as in women will never become priests (they all cling tightly on to this one) and certain moral acts are still considered wrong, but that mercy and forgiveness be the order of the day. "Who am I to judge" said Pope Francis.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/f...am-i-judge

You may want to ask yourself the same question.
I don't have to ask myself that question.
Not in his case.
He has to follow ALL the rules.
He is a puppet pope imo
& proving it out all the time
& am not the only one noticing.
I don't have to agree with what he says
or believe that humility act on his part
which is false humility imo.
You want him..you can have him.

' Welcome to My Nightmare '
12-01-2016, 09:46 AM #50
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It struck me odd when the Pope hailed the election of Sadiq Khan as “Muslim” mayor of London, claimed mass Muslim migration is “necessary” for Europe, and blamed Paris and Brussels for the attacks on European soil.

Europe spent centuries fighting off attempted Muslim invasions from the 800's right up to the 18th century.

Now suddenly, Europe needs Muslim immigrants?

There is an obvious underlying agenda here.

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12-01-2016, 04:43 PM #51
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(12-01-2016, 09:46 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  It struck me odd when the Pope hailed the election of Sadiq Khan as “Muslim” mayor of London, claimed mass Muslim migration is “necessary” for Europe, and blamed Paris and Brussels for the attacks on European soil.

Europe spent centuries fighting off attempted Muslim invasions from the 800's right up to the 18th century.

Now suddenly, Europe needs Muslim immigrants?

There is an obvious underlying agenda here.

Yes, I think it ties in with economic inequality and low birthrates which breed poverty then evil (no matter the religion). This is what the pope was referring to, I believe, and hey, if immigration is what it takes for economic prosperity and for me to get that old age cheque each month, I am all for it? Also, there is a big difference between Muslims and Islamic extremists from what I can see around me.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/on-economic-...1443982403

Pope Francis is just doing what he has always done...and he is not wavering. He is true to his beliefs.

Quote:He said the church’s stance on these issues was taking an air of obsession. He also criticized the church for forgetting the important belief of true love and prioritizing moral doctrines before serving the poor and marginalized.

http://www.littlethings.com/18-acts-from-pope/
12-01-2016, 04:56 PM #52
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(12-01-2016, 04:43 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  there is a big difference between Muslims and Islamic extremists from what I can see around me.

No doubt. The Muslims I've known have been well educated, most engineers.
Educated people seldom blow themselves up.
Problem is, with immigration en masse extremists can not be vetted.
It's all social engineering. The establishment is scared shitless of Nationalism... which is obviously on the upswing.
Look for it to bust up the EU in no time. Keep an eye on Italy and France

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12-01-2016, 05:23 PM #53
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(12-01-2016, 04:56 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 04:43 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  there is a big difference between Muslims and Islamic extremists from what I can see around me.

No doubt. The Muslims I've known have been well educated, most engineers.
Educated people seldom blow themselves up.
Problem is, with immigration en masse extremists can not be vetted.
It's all social engineering. The establishment is scared shitless of Nationalism... which is obviously on the upswing.
Look for it to bust up the EU in no time. Keep an eye on Italy and France

Let's hope they can be identified by their community then go from there.

Don't you ever wonder JR, that they/we have really not yet hit on the type of political system/ideology that actually works?
12-01-2016, 07:59 PM #54
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We do discuss it from time to time...
12-01-2016, 08:11 PM #55
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Until we get rid of the middle man... congress - parliament - presidents -ministers of this and that and the like and do it all via popular vote on a secure internet II, we will always be screwed.
Politicians are there due to greed and a desire for power... what good can come of shït?

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12-01-2016, 08:52 PM #56
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Or do the majority of people need to be led by the nose in all ways?
12-01-2016, 09:09 PM #57
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(12-01-2016, 09:46 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  It struck me odd when the Pope hailed the election of Sadiq Khan as “Muslim” mayor of London, claimed mass Muslim migration is “necessary” for Europe, and blamed Paris and Brussels for the attacks on European soil.

Europe spent centuries fighting off attempted Muslim invasions from the 800's right up to the 18th century.

Now suddenly, Europe needs Muslim immigrants?

There is an obvious underlying agenda here.
(12-01-2016, 04:56 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(12-01-2016, 04:43 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  there is a big difference between Muslims and Islamic extremists from what I can see around me.

No doubt. The Muslims I've known have been well educated, most engineers.
Educated people seldom blow themselves up.
Problem is, with immigration en masse extremists can not be vetted.
It's all social engineering. The establishment is scared shitless of Nationalism... which is obviously on the upswing.
Look for it to bust up the EU in no time. Keep an eye on Italy and France
Paris now turned into a SHITHOLE by immigrants and refugees



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12-01-2016, 09:19 PM #58
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US Christian Churches Back Muslim Invasion
All of the major Christian churches in America have come out in favor of importing hundreds of thousands of Muslims into the US from the Middle East, even though such a move will speed up the extinction of both European-Americans and Christianity itself.

http://newobserveronline.com/us-christia...-invasion/
Whom is encouraging/allowing/promoting this?
The Pope Of Course.

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12-01-2016, 09:51 PM #59
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Multiculturalism is pure BS propaganda in that the only culture you're allowed to disapprove of is your own.

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