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Probiotics: What are they and why do you need them?
05-26-2012, 02:14 AM #1
Kreeper Griobhtha
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We are not alone...

Every one of us has trillions of little companions. Some are inside our bodies. Some are on our skin. Trillions of microorganisms that not only need us to survive but help us survive also. Every day we are bombarded with untold numbers of harmful germ, bacteria and viruses. That's where our little hitchhikers come in to play. They not only attack and kill the nasties, they consume their tiny little corpses. How helpful are they? Well, about 80% of our immu8ne system is in our digestive system. Without our little cleanup crews we would all be dead.

Not only do those bad microbes cause problems, they release toxins that make us even sicker.

So, why do we need to replace the good bacteria? Various things can cause this. Have you ever: Taken antibiotics? Consumed chlorinated or fluoridated water? Used antibacterial soap? Consumed non-organic food (Agricultural chemicals.)? Consumed processed foods? Consumed a lot of sugar? Consumed refined grains? Been around pollution? These are all things that will kill off the beneficial bacteria which, in turn, promotes the growth of harmful bacteria.

What happens why your beneficial bacteria die? All sorts of things can, and do, go wrong. How about a list?

Some of the known health benefits of live Kefir made from live Kefir grains:
Anti-bacterial
Anti-allergenic
Anti-viral
Immunomodulatory
Anti-infective
Antioxidant
Antiproliferative
Apoptopic (cellular self-destruction)
Antidepressive
Antifungal
Cardioprotective
Gastroprotective
Radio- and chemo protective
Upregulates glutathione and certain glycoproteins that help regulate immune responses, including interleukin-4, interleukin-10, and interleukin-12
Downregulates interleukin-6 (a cytokine involved in chronic inflammation and age-related diseases)
Inhibits tumor necrosis factor (TNF) alpha inhibitor, NF-kappaB, epidermal growth factor receptor, and more
Celiac disease, leaky gut and irritable bowel syndrome Mood, psychological health, and behavior Epstein-Barr virus
Chronic fatigue syndrome
Insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome, and diabetes
Common cold, influenza, and pneumonia
High cholesterol and hypertension Acne
Eczema and atopic dermatitis
Liver diseases, such as cirrhosis and cancer
Herpes
Food- and wheat allergies

Here is a link to Green Med Info which has studies of probiotics and a list of 199 things that can be treated with them!


Now I will talk a little about types of probiotics. First and foremost, don't bother with store bought probiotics.
Store bought kefir only contains about 7 bacterial strains and costs $5-10 for every small bottle. That brings us to the two types of milk kefir. You can get either live kefir grains of kefir starter. Don't bother with the starter. It also only has about 7-10 bacterial cultures and can only be reused a few times. Kefir grains, on the other hand, typically contain 50+ bacterial strains and can often be obtained for free (Check the links below, bulletin boards in your local whole foods/ health foods/ food coop/etc stores, friends that might make their own kefir, Craig's List free section or other online sources. The beauty of kefir grains is that as long as you take care of them they will keep multiplying and you will end up having to give some away from time to time. If you take care of them they will live longer than you will.

Milk kefir can be used in many ways. The natural taste of kefir is pretty much like unsweetened, plain yogurt. The taste will vary depending on the milk you use and what stage you let it get to. The more it ferments the more sour the taste. We typically let it get thick but still liquid enough to drink (This takes about 18-24 hours.) and make fruit smoothies out of it. If you let it sit longer you will see the curds and whey separate. I will get back to this in a minute.

The other kind of kefir is water kefir. Like milk kefir, water kefir grains can often be found online for free because they also multiply. As the name implies, this type of probiotic is made with water. Water kefir contains about 30-40 strains of beneficial bacteria, but these strains are different than the milk kefir strains. Water kefir can be made with many different flavors and is often called kefir soda because it carbonates while fermenting.

Now on to the super probiotics. Cultured, or fermented whole foods. You are already familiar with these foods just not in a probiotic form. Pretty much any vegetable that can be pickled falls into this category. Sauerkraut, kimchi, pickles, etc. The difference is that the version you buy in stores or eat in restaurants has been pasteurized and/or homogenized. These processes kill the beneficial bacteria. Now, why did I call them super probiotics? Because they typically contain 100-200+ strains of beneficial bacteria!

There are different ways to make these super probiotics. The first is to buy culture starters. Typically you can make many gallons of fermented foods with the starters. You can also just follow recipes for these foods and let nature take its course. This method take a good bit longer than using cultures. The third way brings us back to the milk kefir separating into curds and whey. You can use some of the whey to culture your veggies!


This is an excellent site with tons of information on kefir.

Where to get kefir grains

You can get them from the above website, one of the following websites or you can Google Kefir grains.

http://www.rejoiceinlife.com/kefir/kefirlistUSA.php

http://www.torontoadvisors.com/Kefir/kefir-list.php

http://www.kefirlady.com/

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05-26-2012, 03:42 PM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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Excellent! cheers.gif


Most people fail to realize that your gut is quite literally your second brain, and actually has the ability to significantly influence your:

Mind
Mood
Behavior

So while modern psychiatry still falsely claims that psychological problems such as depression are caused by a chemical imbalance in your brain, researchers keep finding that depression and a variety of behavioral problems actually appear to be linked to an imbalance of bacteria in your gut!

When you consider the fact that the gut-brain connection is recognized as a basic tenet of physiology and medicine, and that there's no shortage of evidence of gastrointestinal involvement in a variety of neurological diseases, it's easy to see how the balance of gut bacteria can play a significant role in your psychology and behavior as well.

With this in mind, it should also be crystal clear that nourishing your gut flora is extremely important, from cradle to grave, because in a very real sense you have two brains, one inside your skull and one in your gut, and each needs its own vital nourishment.

Interestingly, these two organs are actually created out of the same type of tissue. During fetal development, one part turns into your central nervous system while the other develops into your enteric nervous system. These two systems are connected via the vagus nerve, the tenth cranial nerve that runs from your brain stem down to your abdomen. This is what connects your two brains together, and explains such phenomena as getting butterflies in your stomach when you're nervous, for example. (For an interesting and well-written layman's explanation of this connection, read through Sandra Blakeslee's 1996 New York Times article Complex and Hidden Brain in Gut Makes Stomachaches and Butterflies.)

Your gut and brain work in tandem, each influencing the other. This is why your intestinal health can have such a profound influence on your mental health, and vice versa.

As a result, it should be obvious that your diet is closely linked to your mental health. Furthermore, it's requires almost no stretch of the imagination to see how lack of nutrition can have an adverse effect on your mood and subsequently your behavior.


Read it all at http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...avior.aspx

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05-26-2012, 04:00 PM #3
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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hi5.gif Awesome posts Kreeper and Octo. I have a yogurt every morning and my dogs get some too. But Inka only likes the peach and plain chuckle.gif
05-26-2012, 04:12 PM #4
Octo Mother Superior
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I love plain yogurt on my blueberries in the morning! beercheer.gif We also have a fermented milk that offers 15 million live bacteria per glass.

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05-26-2012, 04:13 PM #5
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(05-26-2012, 04:12 PM)Octo Wrote:  15 million live bacteria per glass.

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05-26-2012, 04:15 PM #6
Octo Mother Superior
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Feels funny too chuckle.gif beercheer.gif
05-26-2012, 05:32 PM #7
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(05-26-2012, 04:12 PM)Octo Wrote:  I love plain yogurt on my blueberries in the morning! beercheer.gif We also have a fermented milk that offers 15 million live bacteria per glass.

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500 ml of kefir contains as many as 5 trillion beneficial organisms.


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05-26-2012, 05:47 PM #8
Octo Mother Superior
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That's a lot cheers.gif

But I can imagine it's quite expensive over here if it's even available. I have to browse the health food store next time I go.
Amazing I grew up with this stuff and now it's gone. sad2.gif

I do have the recipe for sauerkraut, fermented cabbage, I can post it here on this thread. I had planned on making a thread about it for years chuckle.gif

Fermenting vegetables is a great thing because their nutritional value actually increases. It is claimed that the only thing saving any Russian during the siege of Stalingrad was fermented cabbage stocks. What we throw away today may save our life tomorrow.


05-26-2012, 05:55 PM #9
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Just to give you an idea of how difficult it can be to make milk kefir, here is what I do:


First I buy organic whole milk. Grass fed raw milk works best, but good luck getting some. Next, put your grains into the milk. Place a coffee filter over the opening and secure it with a rubber band or something. The fermenting milk produces CO2 which attracts ants and such. Place the container on a counter our of direct sunlight. 18-24 hours later take the container and pour it through a fine plastic strainer. This will separate the grains from the kefir. Yes, you already have kefir.

The longer you let your kefir sit the thicker and more sour tasting it will get. After removing the grains, you can put a coffee filter in your strainer and pour thicker kefir into it and let it sit in the refrigerator. (In a bowl...) Placing it into the refrigerator will stop the fermentation. The whey will go through the filter leaving curds. Now you have whey to use and fresh cheese. Remember, you can use the whey to make cultured veggies.


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05-26-2012, 06:06 PM #10
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Google kefir grains and you will probably find someone that will mail some to you. The closer they are to you the better. If you get dormant or dehydrated grains there will be a period of about a week or so where you will need to wake them up. You do this by simply putting them in a little milk and changing the milk each day.


For those who are wondering, kefir grains look like cauliflower.


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Established

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Water kefir grains

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05-26-2012, 06:14 PM #11
Octo Mother Superior
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(05-26-2012, 06:06 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  For those who are wondering, kefir grains look like cauliflower.


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05-26-2012, 07:26 PM #12
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Absolutely killer! Well written post Kreeper! hi5.gif cheers.gif
Kudos for that. We are indeed what we eat.
Most people are not like us, they can eat shït (grains and white sugar) with no ill effects until...

cancer, obesity, fungal infections and asthma kill 'em.

We are the lucky ones that understand and corrected an imbalance in our gut bacteria; solving all manner of problems in the process.
What must be said here is that Kreeper and I were on daily inhalers, now we're free from big pharma unless we eat bread sugar or pasta which feeds the demon.
Candida = Satan. If you only knew.

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05-26-2012, 07:56 PM #13
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Amen Brother! hi5.gif


The only time I have had to use my inhale since I quit grains was the only time in the last month I ate pasta. I got indigestion, bloated, stiff/swollen hands, a headache and my asthma flared up. That is the only time I have had any of those issues during the grain free period. They used to be issues I lived with on a daily basis. We are not designed to eat grains.

Making kefir really is very simple. Just go to Youtube and search for it. There are tons of videos on the subject. Some will say to rinse the grains between batches. Others say it isn't necessary. I'm with the no need group.

One thing I forgot to mention about store bought probiotics is that, besides being expensive, they tend to be loaded with sugar and/or artificial sweeteners. Don't go there. That shït is evil.

Here is an idea of what I do with kefir. I put frozen blueberries, raspberries, strawberries or whatever kind of berries you prefer in a blender. I will add a ripe banana to help sweeten it. I will also take some local grown honey (Good for building immunities to allergies.) and add a wee bit of hot water and stir to thin it out. Dump the thinned honey into the blender as a little more sweetener. And blend. We also like to add things like dried goji berries or dehydrated pineapple or peaches. Fill with kefir and blend. That's it. We also like to mix in hemp seeds. They add a great nutty flavor which is an awesome compliment to the fruit/berry flavors. There is also the bonus of being nutritionally packed!

Another way I make it is to use a few dehydrated peach halves and OJ rather than berries. This gives you more of an orange cream flavor.

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05-26-2012, 08:11 PM #14
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Two more things:

I was also using a steroid inhaler and that shït is history also.

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And those people can't eat grains and refined sugar without ill effects, they only think they can. They just don't know what that shït is doing because they have been eating it their entire life. Give them up for a month and you will see how much better you feel.


And now that I sound like a preachy ex-smoker...

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I need to go check my email. I'm waiting to hear from a local person that has free water kefir grains.

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06-10-2012, 11:03 AM #15
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I would love to try some of this gut health that seems to be so important!



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