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06-01-2013, 04:43 PM #76
Octo Mother Superior
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One does not necessarily need dogma to love, respect and appreciate the wonders of life.

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06-01-2013, 04:45 PM #77
Octo Mother Superior
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I'm not godless (just without religion), but I'm not seeing how that would put me above the animals. damned.gif
06-01-2013, 04:45 PM #78
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(06-01-2013, 04:37 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  
(06-01-2013, 04:28 PM)Shadow Wrote:  I deeply despise religion but spirituality is not religion. It's respect and appreciation of all life. Nothing sets humans above all other creatures, in fact I can't think of a single facet of human nature that makes us better except spirituality and the capacity for compassion.


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Understanding.
A beautiful sight.

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Back at you Sweetheart hug.gif hug.gif

And even compassion is not an exclusive human trait, as shown in the 'crow and kitten' thread.
06-01-2013, 04:46 PM #79
White Ribbon call me
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(06-01-2013, 04:36 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  56 ok well, I'll take that as a yes about the idenitifier symbol, obviously people can impersonate one, but I don't think we're at that stage yet.

shadow - I deeply despise religion but spirituality is not religion. It's respect and appreciation of all life. Nothing sets humans above all other creatures, in fact I can't think of a single facet of human nature that makes us better except spirituality and the capacity for compassion.

No, god set us, his favourite creation, above the animals. Mankind (I'm a woman so that's gender inclusive) is above the animal world.


i think the animal world is far more advanced than us, in a consciousness, energetic way.. they are connected in ways humans aren't.. same with tree's.. we are the plebs.. we have a lot to learn..
06-01-2013, 04:49 PM #80
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Be your own religious/spiritual teacher, that is, if you can conquer your ego and create your own relevant dogmatic truths. More power to you.

For those that need guidance, let them follow their chosen spiritual/religious leaders. To each their own.

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06-01-2013, 04:57 PM #81
Accidental Stoner Member
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The revered Bhapu did his best.
Yet the end result of his efforts is
2 more nuclear powers
with long mutual border
in constantly rising tension.

Aah, the road to hell... gaah.gif
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06-01-2013, 04:59 PM #82
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(06-01-2013, 04:42 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(06-01-2013, 04:36 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  No, god set us, his favourite creation, above the animals. Mankind (I'm a woman so that's gender inclusive) is above the animal world.


Your god set you above animals. I'm just pleased to be godless coffeetime.gif If you are his favorite creation, well it's fittung because religious humans are as heedless and selfish and egocentric as your god is.


hmm well it's a quarter to midnight here so, I'll be disappearing soon.

I want people to understand that apologetics is a form of evangelism and I am not an evangelist. I will respond to some queries, but for me to answer and prolong this thread would amount to evagelism ok? You want me to make a case? you're asking me to evangelise to you, which is something I'm not comfortable about doing, it all comes down to the bible and whether you've read it or not. The central thing that stood out to me when I finally read it when I was about 40. was the stuff about 'trust no-one but God' and the repeated cautions about false shepherds, wolves in sheeps clothing. Tells you a lot about churches and priests/ministers.

It may amuse you to know I only ever attended church in childhood (my dad was a mason, so it's very unusual for them to send a child to a church, neither my brother nor my sister were sent to a church) but that church was a presbyterian one and guess what? after a few years of childhood, they shunned me, for not taking the altar call. I felt the pressure (it's very heavy) to 'open your heart to 'Jesus', I liked everything I had heard about him, but when I opened my heart like the preacher said, I saw and felt (not in a material sense) this stony dark monotlith, simliar to the one portrayed in 2001, although that film hadn't been made yet, and I as a 9 yr old thought, no, that isn't Jesus and quickly closed up my 'heart' to this stony dark thing they said was 'Jesus'.

Deception is everywhere. Especially in 'churches'.
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06-01-2013, 05:02 PM #83
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Forgot to put 56 in that post.
06-01-2013, 05:06 PM #84
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(06-01-2013, 05:02 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  Forgot to put 56 in that post.


dont worry, we knew it was you.. chuckle.gif
06-01-2013, 05:07 PM #85
Accidental Stoner Member
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Interesting.
06-01-2013, 05:08 PM #86
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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I believe children should be introduced to all reglions, then when they become adults and understand themselves...make their choices. As a child, I was forced into the Roman Catholic rituals, without anyone explaining to me why I was doing what was expected of me...and I asked, I was not a timid child. Some explanations were..."Because you have to".
06-01-2013, 05:18 PM #87
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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I remember my brother being sent to pentacostal bible camp. He came home crying, the preacher told the kids that Ethiopian children deserved to starve to death because they weren't christian.

And then years later (stupid me) I sent my kid to bible camp (multi-denominational) and she came home crying because a speaker they had at camp told the kids they'd die in a horrible car crash unless they became christian.

Then not long after an old lady I knew, isolated way at the back end of Caribou Lake, rained for days and a creek diverted into her basement, was washing out the foundation of her house. A friend and I (happened to be a Sunday morning) tried to get help to go divert the creek back into it's original bed. All the christians said no, they were on their way to church but they'd pray for her rofl.gif I'm sure they did coffeetime.gif but it was atheists that got in their trucks and came to help.

06-01-2013, 05:20 PM #88
Octo Mother Superior
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Oh wow. damned.gif I was fortunate enough to be in an environment where I was told politics and religion are things we have to decide for ourselves as we get older so I was never pushed into anything.
06-01-2013, 05:21 PM #89
Accidental Stoner Member
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>US: Why sure, if school policy is absolute neutrality.

I think the kids would be so much better off with
studying 'world view' or 'conception of life' at large...
sort of free philosophy class after lunch.

"Livsåskådning" in Swedish..."elämänkatsomus" in
Finnish..."life view"?

06-01-2013, 05:23 PM #90
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(06-01-2013, 05:20 PM)Octo Wrote:  Oh wow. damned.gif I was fortunate enough to be in an environment where I was told politics and religion are things we have to decide for ourselves as we get older so I was never pushed into anything.


+1.

That diakonissa-lady the parish sent out failed
miserably at dragging me off to Sunday School, too.

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