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08-11-2012, 07:02 PM #16
Octo Mother Superior
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Should be, but hey I can't revolutionize everything. I can't imagine what types of burning hoops you'd have to jump through here to introduce a new education formula. uhoh.gif
08-12-2012, 08:48 AM #17
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(08-11-2012, 06:10 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Just playing the Devil's advocate here. Why is it the school's responsibility?


Because that is what the taxpayers pay for!

Already these charter school students are known as 'wharehouse kids' because that's where they're being taught. Old wharehouses. It's the privatization of education. Corporations want a piece of that multi billion dollar pie. Environmental code, ventilation, gymnasiums, teachers, water fountains, libraries, windows, sanitation, sports, music, all expendable in the pursuit of profit.
08-12-2012, 09:20 AM #18
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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hug.gif Morning Shadow! Bingo on the profit. What a great gig for private companies that receive tax money. sad2.gif

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08-12-2012, 05:01 PM #19
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(08-12-2012, 08:48 AM)Shadow Wrote:  
(08-11-2012, 06:10 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Just playing the Devil's advocate here. Why is it the school's responsibility?


Because that is what the taxpayers pay for!

Already these charter school students are known as 'wharehouse kids' because that's where they're being taught. Old wharehouses. It's the privatization of education. Corporations want a piece of that multi billion dollar pie. Environmental code, ventilation, gymnasiums, teachers, water fountains, libraries, windows, sanitation, sports, music, all expendable in the pursuit of profit.


Hi Shadow. With the schools having the kids less than 8 hours a day, parents the other 16+ hours - I would have thought the parents should take the responsibility for their children's physical health and mental health.
08-12-2012, 05:08 PM #20
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So many parents I know don't possess physical /mental health to begin with, I don't know how they would pass good practices on to their children. It's really sad, and creates more of the same from generation to generation.

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08-12-2012, 05:13 PM #21
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(08-12-2012, 05:08 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  So many parents I know don't possess physical /mental health to begin with, I don't know how they would pass good practices on to their children. It's really sad, and creates more of the same from generation to generation.


You just brought to my mind interviews with successful people who were spurred only by what their teacher said to them to help/guide them in life - nobody else. damned.gif
08-12-2012, 05:18 PM #22
Octo Mother Superior
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I agree parents should first and foremost be good role models to their kids, but sadly that's not so much the case anymore. Good teachers can work wonders, but if the kids aren't familiar with roaming around playing before starting school it's kinda late already. sad2.gif
08-12-2012, 05:21 PM #23
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(08-12-2012, 05:01 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Hi Shadow. With the schools having the kids less than 8 hours a day, parents the other 16+ hours - I would have thought the parents should take the responsibility for their children's physical health and mental health.


Good point and true, but the schools are responsible for the children while on school grounds and not having adequate exercise facilities is as damaging while at school as it is while at home. This eliminates both sports and socializing. These are inner city kids being exploited for their poverty. While I was studying I found that getting up and walking around every hour or two improved my ability to concentrate. I don't know many kids that could sit inactive in a class for 6 hours unless they're drugged.
08-12-2012, 05:21 PM #24
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Amazing the influence "authority figures" have over people - When I gave reviews at the end of the year to employees I learned a lot about human behavior.
You can praise them till the cows come home, but if you get into an area where they may need improvement, that's what they remember from the conversation, in other words; the bad things are what sticks.
I gave that "you need to improve" thing up completely, does way more harm than good.

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08-12-2012, 05:22 PM #25
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(08-12-2012, 05:18 PM)Octo Wrote:  I agree parents should first and foremost be good role models to their kids, but sadly that's not so much the case anymore. Good teachers can work wonders, but if the kids aren't familiar with roaming around playing before starting school it's kinda late already. sad2.gif


With that in mind, then it's up to the learning institutions to take control in the areas for children's mental and physical health. I think they don't get paid enough.
08-12-2012, 05:37 PM #26
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(08-12-2012, 05:22 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I think they don't get paid enough.


And that's the problem with the system. Administrators take home six figures while the teachers get more workload and less wages. For ie. I recently went to my Mom's convocation. There were more admin than instructors or graduates. Yet they were still laying off profs. dunno.gif
08-12-2012, 05:50 PM #27
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(08-12-2012, 05:21 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(08-12-2012, 05:01 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Hi Shadow. With the schools having the kids less than 8 hours a day, parents the other 16+ hours - I would have thought the parents should take the responsibility for their children's physical health and mental health.


Good point and true, but the schools are responsible for the children while on school grounds and not having adequate exercise facilities is as damaging while at school as it is while at home. This eliminates both sports and socializing. These are inner city kids being exploited for their poverty. While I was studying I found that getting up and walking around every hour or two improved my ability to concentrate. I don't know many kids that could sit inactive in a class for 6 hours unless they're drugged.


The school admin say their sole job is to teach the children not to be surrogate parents, nurse, doctor, psychologist...etc. I know the teachers have to deal with these situations and I have heard teachers complain about the lack of training in all these areas. So, now we have untrained teachers trying their best to deal with situations with children that may affect them their entire lives.
08-12-2012, 06:45 PM #28
Octo Mother Superior
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Well living in a country that boasts about the best educational system in the world I have to say teaching has a pretty high professional status. You can't really work as a teacher here without proper credentials.

Quote:In Finland all teacher education is connected to a university which means that a teacher has to have a Master's degree in order to be certificated. Kindergarten teachers are certificated after having completed a Bachelor of Education.

http://www.abo.fi/institution/pf

I'd say the problem regarding lack of exercise is not the school's issue to deal with, but a symptom of our culture and a conscious effort by the POO to break down common sense and everything natural and wholesome, such as parenting. 13.gif

08-12-2012, 06:54 PM #29
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(08-12-2012, 06:45 PM)Octo Wrote:  Well living in a country that boasts about the best educational system in the world I have to say teaching has a pretty high professional status. You can't really work as a teacher here without proper credentials.

Quote:In Finland all teacher education is connected to a university which means that a teacher has to have a Master's degree in order to be certificated. Kindergarten teachers are certificated after having completed a Bachelor of Education.

http://www.abo.fi/institution/pf

I'd say the problem regarding lack of exercise is not the school's issue to deal with, but a symptom of our culture and a conscious effort by the POO to break down common sense and everything natural and wholesome, such as parenting. 13.gif


Yeah! That.
08-12-2012, 07:08 PM #30
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(08-12-2012, 06:45 PM)Octo Wrote:  Well living in a country that boasts about the best educational system in the world I have to say teaching has a pretty high professional status. You can't really work as a teacher here without proper credentials.

Quote:In Finland all teacher education is connected to a university which means that a teacher has to have a Master's degree in order to be certificated. Kindergarten teachers are certificated after having completed a Bachelor of Education.

http://www.abo.fi/institution/pf

I'd say the problem regarding lack of exercise is not the school's issue to deal with, but a symptom of our culture and a conscious effort by the POO to break down common sense and everything natural and wholesome, such as parenting. 13.gif


Yup.
Can't have anybody not properly and thoroughly indoctrinated
teaching school. Lest the children pick up the nasty habit of
thinking for themselves.

And İmage to that last paragraph.

It is the War On Love,
and it is very, very, old. As is the oligarchy who owns it.
(Even if poor sods like Cousin Nicky, for instance, must be
thrown to the bankers every now and then.)

Or that is how it seems and looks.
What the *bleep* do I know of the so called truth.
Except that it is heard only whence nothing is expected in return.



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