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Scientists claim Turin Shroud is REAL
02-12-2014, 09:20 AM #1
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Radiation from an earthquake may be responsible for the mysterious Turin Shroud image many believe to be a depiction of Jesus Christ, scientists claim.

An Italian team at the Politecnico di Torino, a well respected Italian University, claims the powerful magnitude 8.2 earthquake, which occurred in Old Jerusalem in the year 33 AD, would have been strong enough to release neutron particles from crushed rock.

The flood of neutrons may have imprinted an X-ray-like image onto the linen burial cloth by reacting with nitrogen nuclei, say the researchers.

More - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...ectly.html
02-12-2014, 09:22 AM #2
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The bible does say earthquakes happened after the crucifixion........just saying.........
02-12-2014, 09:59 AM #3
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Hi KILLUMINATI,

yes it is said there was an earthquake,,,

now neutron releases,,,don't know,,,

I have followed the stories over the years,,,

and the history,,,and the scientific stories,,,

and there are many "scientific explanations",,,

because this is what they do,,,

the linen weave shows it is from the era,,,

I'll post up some links later on,,,

but for now I will leave you with this,,,

the image certainly is one of a man crucified,,,

and the Romans didn't wrap the crucified in shrouds,,,

they threw the bodies in the dump...

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02-12-2014, 11:57 AM #4
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İmage

In this painting from Rennes-le-Chateau, it shows Jesus being taken to the tomb at night. However, the custom is to never touch the dead at night.
Which would indicate Jesus was in fact not dead when he was taken to the tomb.
Rennes-le-Chateau holds many Templar and Priory of Sion secrets in plain view for those that know how to look for the signs.
Interesting thread.

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02-12-2014, 04:09 PM #5
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the myth of the priory of sion vs real history http://www.historyversusthedavincicode.c...ythree.htm

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02-12-2014, 05:45 PM #6
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(02-12-2014, 04:09 PM)j browsing Wrote:  the myth of the priory of sion vs real history http://www.historyversusthedavincicode.c...ythree.htm

The da vinci code was never sold as fact
02-12-2014, 05:55 PM #7
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I was thinking about the book holy blood holy grail where brown got his inspiration for the da vinci code

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02-12-2014, 05:55 PM #8
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I don't know, but if Jesus' body was laid in a thick rock tomb, then I doubt radiation could have penetrated into the chamber.
02-12-2014, 06:00 PM #9
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(02-12-2014, 05:55 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I don't know, but if Jesus' body was laid in a thick rock tomb, then I doubt radiation could have penetrated into the chamber.

Yep its a mystery that we will never truly know the answers to but everyone likes a good mystery right
02-12-2014, 06:01 PM #10
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(02-12-2014, 05:55 PM)j browsing Wrote:  I was thinking about the book holy blood holy grail where brown got his inspiration for the da vinci code

That book is before my time chuckle.gif
02-12-2014, 06:03 PM #11
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02-12-2014, 06:06 PM #12
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(02-12-2014, 06:00 PM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  
(02-12-2014, 05:55 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I don't know, but if Jesus' body was laid in a thick rock tomb, then I doubt radiation could have penetrated into the chamber.

Yep its a mystery that we will never truly know the answers to but everyone likes a good mystery right

right...for me it's murder mysteries. cheers.gif
02-12-2014, 06:13 PM #13
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
Mechthild Flury-Lemberg began to spin and weave wool shorn from the sheep on her family's post-World War II German farm at the tender age of 16, "for fun," she says. She never imagined that the hobby, which led to a career in textile conservation, would also eventually lead her to head the restoration of one of the most cherished and mysterious relics in Christendom -- the Shroud of Turin -- or that her examination would produce new evidence that the famed linen dates to the first century A.D., to the time of Christ.

Flury-Lemberg studied weaving at an academy in Hamburg, Germany, then earned degrees in the history of art from universities in Kiel and Munich. She then worked for three decades as head of the textile department of the Abegg Foundation in Riggisberg, Switzerland before she retired in 1994 (she came out of retirement for the restoration of the Shroud). During her tenure, she studied and restored a priceless collection of ancient cloths, including the 13th-century grave garments of St. Anthony of Padua and of King Rudolph I of Bohemia, plus 11th-century liturgical vestments, the Tunic of Christ at Treves, and the cowl of St. Francis of Assisi. Ancient textiles like the Shroud of Turin, which, according to belief (if not necessarily scientific evidence) dates to the first century A.D., are quite rare and generally badly preserved. "The textiles handed down to us are normally grave garments, found in burial sites," she said. "They were wrapped about a dead body and stayed in a chemical climate which forced their oxidation. We rarely find well-preserved linen or silk fabrics." The Shroud of Turin is so remarkably preserved, she says, because "this cloth was not kept in a tomb. The crucified man was only for some hours wrapped in that linen."

The Masada cloth dates to between 40 B.C. and 73 A.D. The evidence, says Flury-Lemberg, is clear: "The linen cloth of the Shroud of Turin does not display any weaving or sewing techniques which would speak against its origin as a high quality product of the textile workers of the first century."

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/previous...rview.html

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02-12-2014, 11:26 PM #14
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
Although the Vatican makes no claim on the shroud's authenticity as a relic, Pope Francis introduced a special TV appearance of the burial cloth on Holy Saturday.

USA TODAY 4:25 p.m. EDT March 30, 2013

New scientific tests on the Shroud of Turin, which went on display Saturday in a special TV appearance introduced by the Pope, dates the cloth to ancient times, challenging earlier experiments dating it only to the Middle Ages.

The burial shroud purports to show the imprint of the face and body of a bearded man. The image also purportedly shows nail wounds at the man's wrist and pinpricks around his brow, consistent with the "crown of thorns" mockingly pressed onto Christ at the time of his crucifixion.

Many experts have stood by a 1988 carbon-14 dating of scraps of the cloth carried out by labs in Oxford, Zurich and Arizona that dated it from 1260 to 1390, which, of course, would rule out its used during the time of Christ.

The new test, by scientists at the University of Padua in northern Italy, used the same fibers from the 1988 tests but disputes the findings. The new examination dates the shroud to between 300 BC and 400 AD, which would put it in the era of Christ.

It determined that the earlier results may have been skewed by contamination from fibers used to repair the cloth when it was damaged by fire in the Middle Ages, the British newspaper reported. The cloth has been kept at the cathedral since 1578.

He also said his tests also supported earlier results claiming to have found traces of dust and pollen on that shroud that could only have come from the Holy Land.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world...y/2038295/

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02-12-2014, 11:33 PM #15
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
It determined that the earlier results may have been skewed by contamination from fibers used to repair the cloth when it was damaged by fire in the Middle Ages,

fire makes carbon,,,big time,,,idiots...

He also said his tests also supported earlier results claiming to have found traces of dust and pollen on that shroud that could only have come from the Holy Land.






Dirt particles

Joseph Kohlbeck from the Hercules Aerospace Company in Utah and Richard Levi-Setti of the Enrico Fermi Institute examined some dirt particles from the Shroud surface. The dirt was found to be travertine aragonite limestone.[92] Using a high-resolution microprobe, Levi-Setti and Kolbeck compared the spectra of samples taken from the Shroud with samples of limestone from ancient Jerusalem tombs. The chemical signatures of the Shroud samples and the tomb limestone were found identical except for minute fragments of cellulose linen fiber that could not be separated from the Shroud samples.[93]

Flowers and pollen

In 1997 Avinoam Danin, a botanist at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, reported that he had identified the type of Chrysanthemum coronarium, Cistus creticus and Zygophyllum whose pressed image on the shroud was first noticed by Alan Whanger in 1985 on the photographs of the shroud taken in 1931. He reported that the outlines of the flowering plants would point to March or April and the environs of Jerusalem.[101][102] In a separate report in 1978 Danin and Uri Baruch reported on the pollen grains on the cloth samples, stating that they were appropriate to the spring in Israel.[103] Max Frei, a Swiss police criminologist who initially obtained pollen from the shroud during the STURP investigation stated that of the 58 different types of pollens found, 45 were from the Jerusalem area, while 6 were from the eastern Middle East, with one pollen species growing exclusively in Constantinople, and two found in Edessa, Turkey.[104] Mark Antonacci argues that the pollen evidence and flower images are inherently interwoven and strengthen each other.[105]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin

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