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Scratch British Columbia Off My List?
08-07-2014, 05:49 PM #1
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Quote:"This is one of the greatest environmental disasters we've had on the Fraser," Orr said. "Some of the effluent will be getting in the Fraser. The big question is how concentrated, how harmful it will be. Some of these compounds have short term impacts and some have much longer term impacts."

While the Quesnel Lake stocks are among the Fraser's most abundant, Orr is particularly concerned that other much weaker stocks that spawn in other tributaries of the Fraser could be harmed.

"People have to be concerned about not just what it means for the returning fish but for the juveniles rearing in the lake right now," he said. "We don't know if it's going to accumulate in their bodies or potentially affect their olfactions, their ability to find their home waters."

Resident fish at risk include threatened bull trout and plentiful rainbow trout.

Quote:Imperial Metals president Bryan Kynoch described the effluent as "relatively benign."

He told a news conference Tuesday the effluent nearly meets drinking water standards and the main threat to fish is from the silt, which he said is settling rapidly.


Where are the water quality reports/measurements that would allow Bryan Kynoch to make these statements?


What with the forest fires and flooding in B.C., now this, I might have to scratch B.C. off my list of places to retire sad2.gif.
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08-07-2014, 05:52 PM #2
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pollution from everywhere gaah.gif
08-07-2014, 06:02 PM #3
Octo Mother Superior
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Is this from some mining activity?
08-07-2014, 06:13 PM #4
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Yes, from a gold and copper mine, where, SOMEHOW?!!!, the toxic tailings spilled out of their containment and into the pristine waterways there.
08-07-2014, 06:21 PM #5
Octo Mother Superior
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I'm afraid there are very few unspoiled places left. As much mining that goes on in Canada (and Finland as well) it will always be a problem. Money wins. sad2.gif

Quote:Talvivaara mine stains river orange
The mine has been involved in a string of environmental mishaps -- and PR fiascos -- for more than six months.

Talvivaara staff halted the latest runoff of waste water from the nickel mine in north-eastern Finland on Tuesday after the River Lumijoki near the mine turned red and orange.

The discoloration extended several kilometres south of the mine.

The company blames a problem with sedimentation of iron at the Kortelampi neutralisation pond.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/talvivaara_mine_st...ge/6652972

That leak was nothing to other damage that has been done.
08-07-2014, 06:32 PM #6
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Just terrible. sad2.gif

Quote:“The colour in the water is basically an aesthetic problem,” says the company’s communications director, Olli-Pekka Nissinen. “Iron and manganese are very effective at colouring water.”
(from your link, Octo)

Strange that the company spokesman would say iron is not a health problem, when here in Canada (City of Toronto to be exact), they are offering citizens a low interest load to help replace underground iron pipes...where a spokesman said "No amount of iron in our water is considered safe".
08-07-2014, 06:53 PM #7
Octo Mother Superior
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Well of course he would say that gaah.gif

Same mine, different disaster:
Quote:Some 1.2 million cubic metres of water and sediment containing heavy metals leaked, with about 240,000 cubic metres pouring outside of the mine area. The spill from a gypsum pond followed two earlier leaks. The report says that the pond’s structure was probably weakened by these earlier incidents, but that the company did not check them carefully enough. The gypsum pond leaked again in April 2013, but this time the waste water was kept within the mine’s property.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/talvivaara_leak_re...ia/7066583
08-07-2014, 07:04 PM #8
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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State of Emergency declared...native peoples in tears.

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Spill...story.html
08-07-2014, 07:06 PM #9
Octo Mother Superior
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Well, BC is huge. I'd look for a place with no mine upstream if such a place even exists.
08-07-2014, 11:47 PM #10
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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That's my community. In fact Whaler worked there until 2001 when they shut down after gold dropped to $250, copper to 80 cents. I can tell you what happened. The management was cutting corners. I know for a fact that people who worked there that brought these issues with the damn integrity to management were fired. It had breached twice and they never fixed what was wrong. Then it collapsed completely.

I don't think the water is that toxic but the sludge.. not so much. They have a HUGE problem. Oh and, there are no native communities near there or even along those rivers but I can sure understand their upset.
08-08-2014, 01:26 PM #11
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Hi Shadow. Aren't there mines and oil companies everywhere in B.C. now? Is there anywhere in B.C. that is not now poisoned, or has the potential to be poisoned in the future?

One elder native man said that he fishes on those waterways...is that their traditional fishing grounds?
08-08-2014, 10:39 PM #12
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(08-08-2014, 01:26 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Hi Shadow. Aren't there mines and oil companies everywhere in B.C. now? Is there anywhere in B.C. that is not now poisoned, or has the potential to be poisoned in the future?

One elder native man said that he fishes on those waterways...is that their traditional fishing grounds?

Every river in BC is their traditional fishing grounds. In fact they claim 130% of BC. rofl.gif Oh yeah, Chilcotin has none although Imperial Metals has been trying for 20 years with the Fish Lake project. That ended last month when the gov't granted the T'silqotin Band title (historic) to 1700 sq km of the area. This collapse of Polley will ensure there will never be mines out there. No mining in Ontario?
08-08-2014, 10:49 PM #13
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(08-08-2014, 10:39 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(08-08-2014, 01:26 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Hi Shadow. Aren't there mines and oil companies everywhere in B.C. now? Is there anywhere in B.C. that is not now poisoned, or has the potential to be poisoned in the future?

One elder native man said that he fishes on those waterways...is that their traditional fishing grounds?

Every river in BC is their traditional fishing grounds. In fact they claim 130% of BC. rofl.gif Oh yeah, Chilcotin has none although Imperial Metals has been trying for 20 years with the Fish Lake project. That ended last month when the gov't granted the T'silqotin Band title (historic) to 1700 sq km of the area. This collapse of Polley will ensure there will never be mines out there. No mining in Ontario?

Sure we have mining in Ontario, but they are defining the B.C. spill as 'unprecedented'. Where does the Fraser River flow into, do you know, Shadow?
08-08-2014, 11:03 PM #14
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(08-08-2014, 10:49 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Sure we have mining in Ontario, but they are defining the B.C. spill as 'unprecedented'. Where does the Fraser River flow into, do you know, Shadow?

The Cariboo river flows into the Quesnel river that flows into the Fraser at Quesnel which goes to the ocean at Vancouver.

https://www.google.ca/maps/search/mine+n...859584,10z

If you zoom in you can see better. The damn water went into Quesnel lake and the Cariboo joins it downstream.

I guess we'll find out how bad it is. I hope they're truthful with their reports.

In BC's defense, we'll never have a nuclear reactor here.
08-08-2014, 11:11 PM #15
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(08-08-2014, 11:03 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(08-08-2014, 10:49 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Sure we have mining in Ontario, but they are defining the B.C. spill as 'unprecedented'. Where does the Fraser River flow into, do you know, Shadow?

The Cariboo river flows into the Quesnel river that flows into the Fraser at Quesnel which goes to the ocean at Vancouver.

https://www.google.ca/maps/search/mine+n...859584,10z

If you zoom in you can see better. The damn water went into Quesnel lake and the Cariboo joins it downstream.

I guess we'll find out how bad it is. I hope they're truthful with their reports.

In BC's defense, we'll never have a nuclear reactor here.

Is there independent environmental measuring of chemicals and silt going on as well?

Never say never.



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