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12-28-2013, 01:43 AM #1
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Seneca. Philosopher, statesman, dramatist and naturalist.
Although he lived about 2000 years ago his views on life, death, friendship, time and what not may still be useful in our modern world. When I read his writings I often realize that - although we have more technology and a bit easier lives today - the core problems of being human are still the same.
Btw he was Nero's mentor. chuckle.gif

So, l just wanted to share Seneca's moral letters to Lucilius with those who are interested.
They cover a wide range of themes.

Here is the link (it's free):
http://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?tit...ew_desktop
12-28-2013, 02:32 AM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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I thought Seneca was a prison in the US lol. chuckle.gif
12-28-2013, 02:36 AM #3
Octo Mother Superior
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No wait! It was the Battlestar Galactica prequel hyper.gif
12-28-2013, 02:43 AM #4
Octo Mother Superior
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No wait, that was Caprica anon.gif

Ok, it also sounds like an antidepressant but I'll probably stop commenting from now chuckle.gif
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12-28-2013, 03:05 AM #5
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lol.gif octo.
12-28-2013, 03:17 AM #6
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Quote:And if God is pleased to add another day, we should welcome it with glad hearts. That man is happiest, and is secure in his own possession of himself, who can await the morrow without apprehension. When a man has said: "I have lived!", every morning he arises he receives a bonus.
From letter 12.

I like this thought.
12-28-2013, 02:54 PM #7
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Quote:Live in this belief: "I am not born for any one corner of the universe; this whole world is my country."

From Letter 28. I like this one too.
12-28-2013, 03:56 PM #8
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17. "He is a slave." His soul, however, may be that of a freeman. "He is a slave." But shall that stand in his way? Show me a man who is not a slave; one is a slave to lust, another to greed, another to ambition, and all men are slaves to fear. I will name you an ex-consul who is slave to an old hag, a millionaire who is slave to a serving-maid; I will show you youths of the noblest birth in serfdom to pantomime players! No servitude is more disgraceful than that which is self-imposed.

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12-28-2013, 07:08 PM #9
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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I could read these all day. Letter 38.

Quote:1. You are right when you urge that we increase our mutual traffic in letters. But the greatest benefit is to be derived from conversation, because it creeps by degrees into the soul. Lectures prepared beforehand and spouted in the presence of a throng have in them more noise but less intimacy. Philosophy is good advice; and no one can give advice at the top of his lungs. Of course we must sometimes also make use of these harangues, if I may so call them, when a doubting member needs to be spurred on; but when the aim is to make a man learn and not merely to make him wish to learn, we must have recourse to the low-toned words of conversation. They enter more easily, and stick in the memory; for we do not need many words, but, rather, effective words.

2. Words should be scattered like seed; no matter how small the seed may be, if it has once found favourable ground, it unfolds its strength and from an insignificant thing spreads to its greatest growth. Reason grows in the same way; it is not large to the outward view, but increases as it does its work. Few words are spoken; but if the mind has truly caught them, they come into their strength and spring up. Yes, precepts and seeds have the same quality; they produce much, and yet they are slight things. Only, as I said, let a favourable mind receive and assimilate them. Then of itself the mind also will produce bounteously in its turn, giving back more than it has received. Farewell.
12-28-2013, 07:14 PM #10
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(12-28-2013, 07:08 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I could read these all day. Letter 38.

Quote:1. You are right when you urge that we increase our mutual traffic in letters. But the greatest benefit is to be derived from conversation, because it creeps by degrees into the soul. Lectures prepared beforehand and spouted in the presence of a throng have in them more noise but less intimacy. Philosophy is good advice; and no one can give advice at the top of his lungs. Of course we must sometimes also make use of these harangues, if I may so call them, when a doubting member needs to be spurred on; but when the aim is to make a man learn and not merely to make him wish to learn, we must have recourse to the low-toned words of conversation. They enter more easily, and stick in the memory; for we do not need many words, but, rather, effective words.

2. Words should be scattered like seed; no matter how small the seed may be, if it has once found favourable ground, it unfolds its strength and from an insignificant thing spreads to its greatest growth. Reason grows in the same way; it is not large to the outward view, but increases as it does its work. Few words are spoken; but if the mind has truly caught them, they come into their strength and spring up. Yes, precepts and seeds have the same quality; they produce much, and yet they are slight things. Only, as I said, let a favourable mind receive and assimilate them. Then of itself the mind also will produce bounteously in its turn, giving back more than it has received. Farewell.

A veritable plethora of sagacity. cheers.gif
12-28-2013, 07:17 PM #11
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(12-28-2013, 07:14 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(12-28-2013, 07:08 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I could read these all day. Letter 38.

Quote:1. You are right when you urge that we increase our mutual traffic in letters. But the greatest benefit is to be derived from conversation, because it creeps by degrees into the soul. Lectures prepared beforehand and spouted in the presence of a throng have in them more noise but less intimacy. Philosophy is good advice; and no one can give advice at the top of his lungs. Of course we must sometimes also make use of these harangues, if I may so call them, when a doubting member needs to be spurred on; but when the aim is to make a man learn and not merely to make him wish to learn, we must have recourse to the low-toned words of conversation. They enter more easily, and stick in the memory; for we do not need many words, but, rather, effective words.

2. Words should be scattered like seed; no matter how small the seed may be, if it has once found favourable ground, it unfolds its strength and from an insignificant thing spreads to its greatest growth. Reason grows in the same way; it is not large to the outward view, but increases as it does its work. Few words are spoken; but if the mind has truly caught them, they come into their strength and spring up. Yes, precepts and seeds have the same quality; they produce much, and yet they are slight things. Only, as I said, let a favourable mind receive and assimilate them. Then of itself the mind also will produce bounteously in its turn, giving back more than it has received. Farewell.

A veritable plethora of sagacity. cheers.gif

cheers.gif Definitely, wave.gif Shadow.
12-28-2013, 07:24 PM #12
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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Hej US, how was your Christmas, plans for New Years?
12-28-2013, 07:31 PM #13
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(12-28-2013, 07:24 PM)Shadow Wrote:  Hej US, how was your Christmas, plans for New Years?

Christmas was nice and intimate and everybody helped, so I actually enjoyed it very much. My extended family and we are having a second Christmas dinner tonight and we are all bringing food items. I just made meat-on-a-stick and although it was my second experimentation, they didn't come out too bad.

As for New Years, well hubby doesn't drink and cannot abide people imbibing too much 13.gif so, it will be an intimate 'bringing in the new year' without too much rukus. chuckle.gif

What about yourself and Whaler?



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