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Seventy ancient metal books found in cave in Jordan
03-30-2011, 03:09 PM #1
Octo Mother Superior
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For scholars of faith and history, it is a treasure trove too precious for price.
This ancient collection of 70 tiny books, their lead pages bound with wire, could unlock some of the secrets of the earliest days of Christianity.
Academics are divided as to their authenticity but say that if verified, they could prove as pivotal as the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947.

On pages not much bigger than a credit card, are images, symbols and words that appear to refer to the Messiah and, possibly even, to the Crucifixion and Resurrection.
Adding to the intrigue, many of the books are sealed, prompting academics to speculate they are actually the lost collection of codices mentioned in the Bible’s Book Of Revelation.

The books were discovered five years ago in a cave in a remote part of Jordan to which Christian refugees are known to have fled after the fall of Jerusalem in 70AD. Important documents from the same period have previously been found there.
Initial metallurgical tests indicate that some of the books could date from the first century AD.

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...story.html

Fascinating! I've never seen anything like it...Sealed books eh? damned.gif
03-30-2011, 03:16 PM #2
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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Holy moly!! What a find!! blink.gif Bet the religious fanatics don't like what they say chuckle.gif
03-30-2011, 03:22 PM #3
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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İmage

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Their leaves - which are mostly about the size of a credit card - contain text in Ancient Hebrew, most of which is in code.

Read the article here: http://www.bbc.co.uk

This is an incredible find, in particular given the current state of affairs worldwide. damned.gif

The Seven Seals is a concept of Christian eschatology, which comes from the Book of Revelation in the Christian Bible, where a "book" or "scroll" with "seven seals" is described in Revelation 5:1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals 13.gif

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03-30-2011, 09:48 PM #4
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Well

think i can say where i've seen this kinda shït before.


I'll give a slight hint as to what these are used for,,, or may have BEEN used for.

1. think of a printing press
2. think of printed dress

Now, think, printed on parchment

Make sense ?
03-30-2011, 09:54 PM #5
yankees skier
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Very cool indeedcheers.gif
03-30-2011, 09:59 PM #6
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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If,,, the researchers, get the " Picture" <--------<< ( yeah, that word right there )

They might figure it this way

These are not the "travel with you additions " Little heavy in the back pack don' cha jes know


again, think printing press

Each coded symbol is a picture word

A picture saves a thousand words

interesting symbol,,, that tree of life,,, think family tree as well,,, actually,, think a bunch
03-30-2011, 10:01 PM #7
Octo Mother Superior
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(03-30-2011, 09:48 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  Well

think i can say where i've seen this kinda shït before.


I'll give a slight hint as to what these are used for,,, or may have BEEN used for.

1. think of a printing press
2. think of printed dress

Now, think, printed on parchment

Make sense ?

Interesting hmm.gif
İmage
03-30-2011, 10:10 PM #8
yankees skier
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I see a lot of chicken wing symbols in there. beercheer.gif
03-30-2011, 10:51 PM #9
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Chicken wing???

heh heh,, and Chicken Feetchuckle.gif

if you click on the link and scroll down to the photo of the cave these are said to have been found in,,

you will get an idea of what the inside of the cavern i found in New Mexico looked like.

The Alcoves carved into the walls of the cave are almost exact as those in the cave i found the treasure in.

Each Alcove in my cavern, held a storehouse of atifacts.

heh heh, those alcoves hold nothing now, just as in this cave,,,
actually,,, the Cavern i was in, is not there either,,, even that was blown in on itself.

BTW, stacked stone walls, some as low as 2 ft high
some as high as 5 ft

are all over the Organ Mountains in New Mexico
they look just like the Ancient stone walls in Israel

Some chicken feet are a "PICTURE WORD " of those stacked stone walls,,, and the walls
themselves, are more like POINTERS and or MARKERS in their use
rather than as Ramparts` Corrals,, or Parapets .
03-30-2011, 11:46 PM #10
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Rog', great take on those plates. Oft times the most logical thing can be overlooked.

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03-30-2011, 11:56 PM #11
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Actually JR, base relief was common on the artifacts i found and the plates are close to some in the cavern.

i spent " LONGTIME" with the artifacts, bemused by most of them, blown away with all of them, and the plates i found, also had what they were used for present.

No Sherlock me, just that i handled artifacts in situ,
if i had found these plates, without any accompanying artifacts to tell me what they were used for,,
i'd probably have never figured it out on my own.
03-31-2011, 12:31 AM #12
Octo Mother Superior
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It just seems odd to me why go through such work to bind them together like that with metal rings...it seems to render them useless for printing.

Like this one:
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12 holes all around a pile of printing plates bound together with thick metal wire. Seems like a lot of work to keep them plates together hmm.gif
03-31-2011, 04:27 AM #13
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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heh heh
Hi Octo
the wire is not a wire

Misnamed by the author of the article

note the stays, for that is what they are, can be uncoiled without cracking or breaking
as iron wire would

These "wires" are not a ferrous metal such as steel or Iron
these are a non ferrous metal such as lead galena.


Purpose of these coil stays, is to uncoil them, straight, leave a few in the holes

place papyrus on the surface of the bottom plate
slide top press plate over the wire coil stays to aligng it and press down

then recoil the stays loop to hold it tight.

if a person is using an animal skin, and you want an impression in the skin

this is how you do it, then leave it for a day or two and the skin is impressed with the symbols

yet, no one can see the impression clearly until charcoal ash is sprinkled over the impression

and then blown off.

These skins with the symbols could be carried co-vertly to communicate with other
acolytes in other parts of the occupied territories
and if the messenger was searched,,,
the skins reveal nothing incriminating to a Centurion.

If, it is noticed by a snoop, the coded symbols can be explained as nothing more then decorative designs to enhance the worth of the Garment of wall hanger.

Dye's and other elements were also used to reveal the symbols as well.
03-31-2011, 04:37 AM #14
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Sorry
i forgot to state, if the rings were ferrous, as iron is
these would have rusted away long long ago.

also, note the rings that have been uncoiled
note there are no cracks in the coils,,,

ferrous, rust, and would have cracked

non ferrous such as was used here, like lead, can be coiled and undone many times
before it will crack, and if it does crack, reheat it a bit, and it will reseal the crack if manipulated
correctly.
03-31-2011, 09:50 AM #15
Octo Mother Superior
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Maybe so hmm.gif But I think the holes for the coils would have been the most prominent feature of the print as the pattern extends to the outside of those holes...Must have been for decorating sacred undergarment or something equally special



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