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So... I tried Windows 10
08-15-2015, 05:19 PM #1
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Going back to 7 until that gets straightened out. It's slow to boot and causes problems with Steam, not to mention so many options to turn off regarding privacy that are enabled by default.

According to Ars Technica, Windows 10 will still send telemetry and other data to Microsoft-owned domains — no matter how tightly you crank down the privacy settings. Even with everything buttoned down, Cortana, OneDrive, and Web Search from the Start Menu disabled, the OS still phones home, using a random system ID that persists across reboots. It apparently also tries to bypass proxies to do it. "Some of the traffic looks harmless but feels like it shouldn't be happening. For example, even with no Live tiles pinned to Start (and hence no obvious need to poll for new tile data), Windows 10 seems to download new tile info from MSN's network from time to time, using unencrypted HTTP to do so. ... Other traffic looks a little more troublesome. Windows 10 will periodically send data to a Microsoft server named ssw.live.com. ... The exact nature of the information being sent isn't clear—it appears to be referencing telemetry settings—and again, it's not clear why any data is being sent at all. We disabled telemetry on our test machine using group policies.

There are some things I could do, for example, 3rd parties are coming up with "fixes" for some of the privacy issues, and you can read about those here 6 free tools that stop Windows 10 from spying on everything you do if you want to try 10 but are concerned about your "right" to privacy that you sign away with the EULA.

Be forewarned, utilities like this can screw up your installation, so use them at your own risk, as I'm not recommending any of them or taking responsibility if you have a computer that fails to boot after trying them out.

Add to those concerns, the interface is clunky and looks like a version of KDE I was running 9 years ago. Windows 8.1 runs circles around it for startup time and program execution, and even though I uninstalled all the apps, it didn't help overall performance.

I'm very disappointed with Windows 10 so far, I have nearly a year to make up my mind should I decide to try a Windows 10 upgrade, so I'll give it some time to mature and allow Microsoft to get rid of the privacy concerns and bugs that are making it run sluggish.

Based on my experience, I'd give it a generous 3 out of 10.

Anybody else here try the upgrade? If so, what do you think?


08-15-2015, 05:29 PM #2
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
Quote:I'll give it some time to mature and allow Microsoft to get rid of the privacy concerns

Not gonna happen, win 10 is spyware. I'll cling to XP as long as i can and XP seems to have less issues since they quit supporting it.
08-15-2015, 05:35 PM #3
Kreeper Griobhtha
Posts:11,019 Threads:760 Joined:Feb 2011
Still running 7. I will not even consider installing 10 until the first service pack. Even then I will have reservations. There is a reason it is "free"...

What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
08-15-2015, 06:08 PM #4
Accidental Stoner Member
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08-15-2015, 06:09 PM #5
Octo Mother Superior
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I'm not installing it damned.gif
08-15-2015, 06:42 PM #6
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(08-15-2015, 05:29 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
Quote:I'll give it some time to mature and allow Microsoft to get rid of the privacy concerns

Not gonna happen, win 10 is spyware. I'll cling to XP as long as i can and XP seems to have less issues since they quit supporting it.

It figures, I quit updating Windows 8.1 after it's release and it runs fast as hell and trouble free. That's not the case with people who keep updating it and as a result their machine just gets slower and slower.

(08-15-2015, 05:35 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  Still running 7. I will not even consider installing 10 until the first service pack. Even then I will have reservations. There is a reason it is "free"...

I saw a comment by a guy on an article I was reading wherein he stated (and I'm paraphrasing here, as I'm way too lazy to look that shit up) " I have a friend that works for the NSA, and I ask him about Windows 10 and if they were pushing it because of "backdoor" capabilities, his response was
Backdoor? Oh no, Windows 10 is a front door wide open.

Take it with a grain of salt, people like to BS on the internet. At any rate, I have a hard enough time getting results in English, let alone a system that thinks all I fucking understand is Finish. I want to reveal my telemetry to them for a more um... "engaging experience" as bad as I want all my teeth removed by a blind dentist using a hacksaw.


08-16-2015, 01:49 AM #7
ocker1 Member
Posts:2,286 Threads:944 Joined:Mar 2011
I was gunna get it , but went and had a yarn with me computer guy , and he said , "Why do you want to change ? isn't the 7 you've had for years doing what you want ?

its going perfect so Im not changin
08-16-2015, 06:16 AM #8
Cynicalabsurdance Member
Posts:10,500 Threads:236 Joined:Feb 2011
I'm using a 10 inch Acer Aspire notebook running XP home

it boots quick , shuts down quick , and not one freaking problem yet

this machine is a 2009 and still kicks ass .

of course , I ain't gaming or nuthin either ya unner stand

I use it to bullshit in here , boot photos of crap i sell on craigslist

and ,,, swat pesky flies

My large ass Toshiba had Vista replaced with Win & Ultimate

fresh ,, and it runs FAST as hell for a 2.0ghz dual core

but the fucker is cumbersome to haul around to Coffee houses

I have a Windows XP Pro . sp3 disc , and may boot that up
in the Tosh next , shit , I don't need win 7 ult . all that cosmic shit it does
ain't amusing to me .

I always thought Win XP Professional SP3 was as far as they needed to go .
08-16-2015, 08:39 AM #9
SpiritMasonChazz Member
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Upgrade mostly means more spy or ad programs also added. They have Dumb down computers away from crystal technolidgy etc. But keep the marketing programs at a fooled you higher number level goin helps sales Windows 1 was all we needed it gaves us multiple screens to open and close the rest were just basic improvements. But a new number sounds better for bait to buy improved mico soft soft ware main frame program. The better tech is in the hard stuff & crystal screens that is allowed for sale.
08-17-2015, 10:45 AM #10
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
Posts:1,771 Threads:45 Joined:Mar 2011
Truly, folks...there's no need to put up with all that horseshit.

I'll just quietly mention that Linux has come a long, long way and one no longer needs to be any sort of guru to get it up and running, especially on an older machine.

One distro I have stuck with for over two years is LXLE: http://www.lxle.net/ It's suck-it-out-of-your-fingers fast.

I also put Linux Mint on many noob machines (usually install side-by-side with Windoze) with no complaints. In fact, one elderly lady told me: "I never knew how much I hated Windows until I had Linux." chuckle.gif

Really, the only reason you might WANT to have Windows would be if you're running some super app that requires it.

Linux distros are cost free, virus free, spyware free and do everything and more than Windows does at a lower resource-hogging and hard-drive cluttering manner.

Plenty of "How-To's" out there.

Happy Trails!
08-17-2015, 01:59 PM #11
Ruby Wolf Member
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Anything good about Windows - 10?

I mean like somethings positive to warrant its creation and release?

Other than waiting for Windows - 11 and Windows - 12 and Windows - 13 ect ect ect (*=*)
08-17-2015, 03:14 PM #12
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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I failed to see anything positive about it. There was certainly no "wow" factor, and in fact, Windows 10 Adoption Already Slowing Down, stats show that the Windows 10 momentum is fading away

Apparently, they can't give it away now that all the privacy issues have come to light. The free upgrade offer lasts until July 29, 2016, so there's plenty of time if you want to share your personal data with god only knows whom.

They either need to tailor it to the end user with security in mind, or keep the big brother "we're watching you OS". Who cares, people won't install the slow clunky ass crawling abortion.

What MS does not comprehend is, after Windows 8/8.1 (you know... when they stuck two badly coded OS's together that did not belong on the same machine and called it a day?) they needed a home run. If they can't get their shit together, and I'm talking weeks tops, Windows is done.

Daj called it... If it were not for a couple of specialty programs I need, I'd use a Linux variant 100% of the time.




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