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03-19-2013, 01:03 AM #1
Mister Kitters (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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A song can convey exactly how you're feeling..





Sorry.. I usually try to post threads that are relevant.. just havin' a moment.

I question the general assumption that felines are inherently deficient in the area of grammar and sentence structure.
03-19-2013, 01:17 AM #2
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
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(03-19-2013, 01:03 AM)Mister Kitters Wrote:  A song can convey exactly how you're feeling..





Sorry.. I usually try to post threads that are relevant.. just havin' a moment.


at least you're not a starving kid in Africa

İmage
03-19-2013, 01:22 AM #3
Octo Mother Superior
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chuckle.gif

Yes indeed, it's never that bad as it can't get worse. patpat.gif

Here, drink this:

İmage
03-19-2013, 01:27 AM #4
Mister Kitters (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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(03-19-2013, 01:22 AM)Octo Wrote:  chuckle.gif

Yes indeed, it's never that bad as it can't get worse. patpat.gif

Here, drink this:

İmage


İmage

I question the general assumption that felines are inherently deficient in the area of grammar and sentence structure.
03-19-2013, 01:40 AM #5
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İmage

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03-19-2013, 01:57 AM #6
Mister Kitters (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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I'll just come out and say it.. a good friend of mine overdosed recently and died. A friend who I backed away from because of my own problems with drugs in the past.

I limited contact with her to LOP chat (we used to talk on the phone a bit, and planned to meet up a few times but never did) and recently found out she had been threatening suicide so I pulled some info on her and got her home telephone number and home address (easily accessible since her mother had recently passed and her information was in her obituary) and planned to contact someone. I knew she needed help.. I planned to call the police or possibly call and speak with her father so she could get some help. She was terribly depressed, and understandably so.

She seemed to be getting a little bit better.. so I never made the call.. and then I lost contact all together for reasons many may know regarding my account on LOP.

Obviously.. I no longer get on LOP and had all but forgotten about my friends problems.. until I found out the news while browsing the threads over on LOP (without an account).. and now she is gone.

This is not about me.. I am not feeling sorry for myself.. I do a feel a little guilty.. but this is about Karen..

I know that I, at least, could have done more.. I know many of us could have..


I question the general assumption that felines are inherently deficient in the area of grammar and sentence structure.
03-19-2013, 01:59 AM #7
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It's very sad, but not your fault. hug.gif
03-19-2013, 02:01 AM #8
Mister Kitters (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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(03-19-2013, 01:59 AM)Octo Wrote:  It's very sad, but not your fault. hug.gif


I know it's not my fault.. I just feel like we could have done more.. we had the info to make the call.. and none of us did.. I know many of my old friends from LOP chat are probably feeling the same way.. just leaves a hole in your heart and another in your mind.

hug.gif

I question the general assumption that felines are inherently deficient in the area of grammar and sentence structure.
03-19-2013, 02:06 AM #9
Mister Kitters (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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And JR don't feel bad for posting that video above.. I know you didn't know about the situation when you posted it and even still it made me laugh and I thank you for that.

Karen would have laughed at it as well..

We used to play guitar together on LOP chat sometimes.. which was funny because of the lag.. but sometimes we made it work..


I question the general assumption that felines are inherently deficient in the area of grammar and sentence structure.
03-19-2013, 02:10 AM #10
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
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(03-19-2013, 01:57 AM)Mister Kitters Wrote:  I'll just come out and say it.. a good friend of mine overdosed recently and died. A friend who I backed away from because of my own problems with drugs in the past.

I limited contact with her to LOP chat (we used to talk on the phone a bit, and planned to meet up a few times but never did) and recently found out she had been threatening suicide so I pulled some info on her and got her home telephone number and home address (easily accessible since her mother had recently passed and her information was in her obituary) and planned to contact someone. I knew she needed help.. I planned to call the police or possibly call and speak with her father so she could get some help. She was terribly depressed, and understandably so.

She seemed to be getting a little bit better.. so I never made the call.. and then I lost contact all together for reasons many may know regarding my account on LOP.

Obviously.. I no longer get on LOP and had all but forgotten about my friends problems.. until I found out the news while browsing the threads over on LOP (without an account).. and now she is gone.

This is not about me.. I am not feeling sorry for myself.. I do a feel a little guilty.. but this is about Karen..

I know that I, at least, could have done more.. I know many of us could have..


My cousin died from an overdose, and I found his body. He was shooting roxy/oxy and I overdose twice but lived(I was not shooting that is the only difference). That is hard because I don't know why he died but I did not. I did and do feel guilty, but you cant make a person stop if they do not want to on their own. Point being feeling guilty over such a thing is natural I suppose but we cant do anything to stop a person that does not want to.
03-19-2013, 02:14 AM #11
Mister Kitters (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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(03-19-2013, 02:10 AM)I⊥∀NIW∩LLIʞ Wrote:  
(03-19-2013, 01:57 AM)Mister Kitters Wrote:  I'll just come out and say it.. a good friend of mine overdosed recently and died. A friend who I backed away from because of my own problems with drugs in the past.

I limited contact with her to LOP chat (we used to talk on the phone a bit, and planned to meet up a few times but never did) and recently found out she had been threatening suicide so I pulled some info on her and got her home telephone number and home address (easily accessible since her mother had recently passed and her information was in her obituary) and planned to contact someone. I knew she needed help.. I planned to call the police or possibly call and speak with her father so she could get some help. She was terribly depressed, and understandably so.

She seemed to be getting a little bit better.. so I never made the call.. and then I lost contact all together for reasons many may know regarding my account on LOP.

Obviously.. I no longer get on LOP and had all but forgotten about my friends problems.. until I found out the news while browsing the threads over on LOP (without an account).. and now she is gone.

This is not about me.. I am not feeling sorry for myself.. I do a feel a little guilty.. but this is about Karen..

I know that I, at least, could have done more.. I know many of us could have..


My cousin died from an overdose, and I found his body. He was shooting roxy/oxy and I overdose twice but lived(I was not shooting that is the only difference). That is hard because I don't know why he died but I did not. I did and do feel guilty, but you cant make a person stop if they do not want to on their own. Point being feeling guilty over such a thing is natural I suppose but we cant do anything to stop a person that does not want to.


I agree.. I had a friend die from a heroin overdose a year ago and we used to shoot up together when I was using.. she actually got me started on heroin over the pills I was doing before.. I loved her though.. she was a good friend.. just had problems like all of us.

I felt some "survivors remorse" over it.. and I knew it was natural..

But with Karen.. it's just like.. we all saw this coming.. most of us anyway.. and we were in contact with each other. I passed her phone number and address to a few trusted friends and we all said we would call if she got too bad..

I don't blame them.. obviously I didn't call either.. I thought she was getting better.

Thanks for sharing your story man.. took some courage to post that and I appreciate it.

I question the general assumption that felines are inherently deficient in the area of grammar and sentence structure.
03-19-2013, 02:19 AM #12
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
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(03-19-2013, 02:14 AM)Mister Kitters Wrote:  
(03-19-2013, 02:10 AM)I⊥∀NIW∩LLIʞ Wrote:  
(03-19-2013, 01:57 AM)Mister Kitters Wrote:  I'll just come out and say it.. a good friend of mine overdosed recently and died. A friend who I backed away from because of my own problems with drugs in the past.

I limited contact with her to LOP chat (we used to talk on the phone a bit, and planned to meet up a few times but never did) and recently found out she had been threatening suicide so I pulled some info on her and got her home telephone number and home address (easily accessible since her mother had recently passed and her information was in her obituary) and planned to contact someone. I knew she needed help.. I planned to call the police or possibly call and speak with her father so she could get some help. She was terribly depressed, and understandably so.

She seemed to be getting a little bit better.. so I never made the call.. and then I lost contact all together for reasons many may know regarding my account on LOP.

Obviously.. I no longer get on LOP and had all but forgotten about my friends problems.. until I found out the news while browsing the threads over on LOP (without an account).. and now she is gone.

This is not about me.. I am not feeling sorry for myself.. I do a feel a little guilty.. but this is about Karen..

I know that I, at least, could have done more.. I know many of us could have..


My cousin died from an overdose, and I found his body. He was shooting roxy/oxy and I overdose twice but lived(I was not shooting that is the only difference). That is hard because I don't know why he died but I did not. I did and do feel guilty, but you cant make a person stop if they do not want to on their own. Point being feeling guilty over such a thing is natural I suppose but we cant do anything to stop a person that does not want to.


I agree.. I had a friend die from a heroin overdose a year ago and we used to shoot up together when I was using.. she actually got me started on heroin over the pills I was doing before.. I loved her though.. she was a good friend.. just had problems like all of us.

I felt some "survivors remorse" over it.. and I knew it was natural..

But with Karen.. it's just like.. we all saw this coming.. most of us anyway.. and we were in contact with each other. I passed her phone number and address to a few trusted friends and we all said we would call if she got too bad..

I don't blame them.. obviously I didn't call either.. I thought she was getting better.

Thanks for sharing your story man.. took some courage to post that and I appreciate it.


same with Trip he gets ƒükkêd up daily but he don't listen
03-19-2013, 03:07 AM #13
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(03-19-2013, 02:06 AM)Mister Kitters Wrote:  And JR don't feel bad for posting that video above.. I know you didn't know about the situation when you posted it and even still it made me laugh and I thank you for that.

Karen would have laughed at it as well..

We used to play guitar together on LOP chat sometimes.. which was funny because of the lag.. but sometimes we made it work..


Fixed it and warned myself in a PM. drinking.gif

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03-19-2013, 11:50 AM #14
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I witnessed you being there for Karen.... you were a wonderful friend to her Kitters. hug.gif I'm sad that I missed out on getting to know her.... she seemed such a beautiful person. Though I understand very well survivor's guilt and the feeling of not-having-done-enough I very much believe in private battles and sadnesses that can be shared in passing but never joined.... and ultimately you have to respect and validate the sufferings and outcomes of another being.... she was strong and fought as hard as she could, and there is consolation in that she is free. Her spirit lives on in the memories of those she touched.... that may be what we can take away from such tragic circumstances.

One of the most talented IMO singer-songwriters passed last Saturday - Jason Molina - when I found out today I couldn't help but think of Karen. Here is a favorite rendition of a song of his:



03-19-2013, 07:07 PM #15
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We were all pretty broken up over it. The night we found out( Katz found out via Facebook) we were all in chat pretty broken up over it. I talked to Karen a week ago. She seemed happy, normal, we played kitty wars( showing out cute kitties on cam) and she seemed ok. I wish you could have been there to grieve with us Kitters.

On a side note I tried to pm you in case you hadn't heard and I got no response from you. I've been trying to talk to you, I'm not sure if anyone else hAs, but I've tried to reach out to you. I realize you're still bitter over the LOP breakup and I completely get that but what happend wasn't my fault. I'm really saddened by your behavior towards me lately because I looked to you as a good friend. I had trust in you and ignoring me won't solve anything, if you're mad about something tell me, we can sort it out. I don't wanna lose you as a friend.

That's my peace.

I miss you.

And I'm feeling the same way about Karen. I have tossed and turned trying to think of ways I could have helped her. She was crying out and I stood by and took her for granite and ill never do that again with any of you guys.



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