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Space Agency: Phobos Is Artificial
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12-10-2012, 02:57 PM #1
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The prestigious European Space Agency has declared Phobos, the mysterious Martian moon, to be artifical. At least one-third of it is hollow and it’s origin is not natural, but alien in nature. The ESA is Europe’s counterpart to NASA. Could this revelation motivate NASA to release the secrets it’s harboring? Don’t count on it…
http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2012/12/s...51408.html
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12-10-2012, 02:58 PM #2
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Anyone else already know this?
12-10-2012, 03:15 PM #3
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Very interesting, would like to see the EU space agency take on it rather than Richard Hoagland's website. The other source dailygalaxy is a bit questionable as well.
Funny I can't pin this down with the exception of dailygalaxy and enterprisemission, not saying this would be impossible by any means, but I'd love to see exactly where the EU space agency states this.
Still looking...

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12-10-2012, 03:33 PM #4
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(12-10-2012, 03:15 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Very interesting, would like to see the EU space agency take on it rather than Richard Hoagland's website. The other source dailygalaxy is a bit questionable as well.
Funny I can't pin this down with the exception of dailygalaxy and enterprisemission, not saying this would be impossible by any means, but I'd love to see exactly where the EU space agency states this.
Still looking...


Those in the know know and I would think it would be too hot for any kind of official disclosure or statement to be made by any *official* agency.

There is a well trafficked station there cooperatively used by many different species.
12-10-2012, 03:34 PM #5
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Quote:In the late 1950s and 1960s, the unusual orbital characteristics of Phobos led to speculations that it might be hollow.

Around 1958, Russian astrophysicist Iosif Samuilovich Shklovsky, studying the secular acceleration of Phobos's orbital motion, suggested a "thin sheet metal" structure for Phobos, a suggestion which led to speculations that Phobos was of artificial origin.[44] Shklovsky based his analysis on estimates of the upper Martian atmosphere's density, and deduced that for the weak braking effect to be able to account for the secular acceleration, Phobos had to be very light — one calculation yielded a hollow iron sphere 16 kilometres (9.9 mi) across but less than 6 cm thick.[44][45] In a February 1960 letter to the journal Astronautics,[46] Fred Singer, then science advisor to U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, said of Shklovsky's theory:

If the satellite is indeed spiraling inward as deduced from astronomical observation, then there is little alternative to the hypothesis that it is hollow and therefore Martian made. The big 'if' lies in the astronomical observations; they may well be in error. Since they are based on several independent sets of measurements taken decades apart by different observers with different instruments, systematic errors may have influenced them.[46]

Subsequently, the systemic data errors that Singer predicted were found to exist, and the claim was called into doubt,[47] and accurate measurements of the orbit available by 1969 showed that the discrepancy did not exist.[48] Singer's critique was justified when earlier studies were discovered to have used an overestimated value of 5 cm/yr for the rate of altitude loss, which was later revised to 1.8 cm/yr.[49] The secular acceleration is now attributed to tidal effects,[47] which had not been considered in the earlier studies.

The density of Phobos has now been directly measured by spacecraft to be 1.887 g/cm3.[4] Current observations are consistent with Phobos being a rubble pile.[4] In addition, images obtained by the Viking probes in the 1970s clearly showed a natural object, not an artificial one. Nevertheless, mapping by the Mars Express probe and subsequent volume calculations do suggest the presence of voids within the moon and indicate that it is not a solid chunk of rock but a porous body instead.[50] The porosity of Phobos was calculated to be 30% ± 5%, or a quarter to a third of the moon being hollow. This void space is mostly on small scales (millimeters to ~1-m), between individual grains and boulders.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_%28m...hypothesis

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12-10-2012, 04:46 PM #6
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it's filled with swamp gas. coffeetime.gif

Biere.
12-10-2012, 06:22 PM #7
Octo Mother Superior
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12-11-2012, 01:35 AM #8
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(12-10-2012, 02:57 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  İmage
The prestigious European Space Agency has declared Phobos, the mysterious Martian moon, to be artifical. At least one-third of it is hollow and it’s origin is not natural, but alien in nature. The ESA is Europe’s counterpart to NASA. Could this revelation motivate NASA to release the secrets it’s harboring? Don’t count on it…
http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2012/12/s...51408.html


The ESA page doesn't appear to exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_(moo...uggestions
35% of the satellite is voids. The usual interpretation is that the interior is odd shaped blocks with lots of space between them. The conspiracy explanation is that the core is hole and it is a artificial satellite.

Don't know - space debris thumping into it should have compacted it.

The Russians had two probes that failed to photograph it. One of the probes had a impactor. Losing two probes is odd but there are mundane explanations.

There is a large rock on the surface the the conspiracy theorists say is a monolith.

There is some mystery to it. Until someone puts an impactor into it so we know what it it made of we won't know.
12-11-2012, 01:45 AM #9
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İmage

It's a very interesting feature for certain.

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12-11-2012, 01:45 AM #10
Octo Mother Superior
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Yes the monolith is fascinating.

12-11-2012, 02:31 AM #11
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The explanation for one of the failed probes is interesting.


They were in a hurry so they left the test PROM code in the motherboard. The test PROM code had a "Kill attitude jets" command implemented. One of the sets of instructions they uploaded had a command that was mistaken for "Kill Attitude Jets". The spacecraft turned off its thrusters and lost earth lock.
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12-11-2012, 06:12 AM #12
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I remember one of the old Russian probes that was suppose to take photos of the Phobos mysteriously disappeared ...last picture it took was off a large cylindrical shaped shadow of an object on the surface of mars that must have been above the probe before it lost contact ...it seems to me the probe was intentionally destroyed to prevent close up pictures.

Long time ago I lived with a friend whose young daughter was having some abduction experiences.
She related to me a "trip" she had taken with them. She mentioned while onboard a kind of announcement being broadcast that declared they were approaching mars ...only they arrived at a kind of station. She didn't have any windows to see out of and I believe they never went to the surface but instead docked at an orbiting station.

Phobos appears to be a large asteroid that took an impact on the end of it which would have fractured it's structure inside. I do not think it is some giant hollow tin can. I think it is merely a convenient place to build structures inside of. Which I think was done extensively. The large impact crater may even disguise a kind of large dish array underneath.

...if you look real close at pictures of Phobos with an intuitive eye you can almost see the disguised sign posts labeling it's various craters which are docking ports assigned to various different species with different environmental requirements. These ports are at the bottom of the craters so as to be close to the base structures which are deep within this "moon".

I believe this station to be a kind of neutral multipurpose facility catering to a large variety of alien species visiting this system. I also suspect that there may be a dimensional port system set up there... that is a kind of very long range teleporter.

I think of this place as likened to the MIB headquarters portrayed in the movie.

There is more that I have relating this facility but it isn't something I can really disclose here or easy to do in any sort of believable manner ...lets just say I have additional verification for my statements above then I am saying.
12-11-2012, 07:29 AM #13
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(12-11-2012, 06:12 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  I remember one of the old Russian probes that was suppose to take photos of the Phobos mysteriously disappeared ...last picture it took was off a large cylindrical shaped shadow of an object on the surface of mars that must have been above the probe before it lost contact ...it seems to me the probe was intentionally destroyed to prevent close up pictures.

Long time ago I lived with a friend whose young daughter was having some abduction experiences.
She related to me a "trip" she had taken with them. She mentioned while onboard a kind of announcement being broadcast that declared they were approaching mars ...only they arrived at a kind of station. She didn't have any windows to see out of and I believe they never went to the surface but instead docked at an orbiting station.

Phobos appears to be a large asteroid that took an impact on the end of it which would have fractured it's structure inside. I do not think it is some giant hollow tin can. I think it is merely a convenient place to build structures inside of. Which I think was done extensively. The large impact crater may even disguise a kind of large dish array underneath.

...if you look real close at pictures of Phobos with an intuitive eye you can almost see the disguised sign posts labeling it's various craters which are docking ports assigned to various different species with different environmental requirements. These ports are at the bottom of the craters so as to be close to the base structures which are deep within this "moon".

I believe this station to be a kind of neutral multipurpose facility catering to a large variety of alien species visiting this system. I also suspect that there may be a dimensional port system set up there... that is a kind of very long range teleporter.

I think of this place as likened to the MIB headquarters portrayed in the movie.

There is more that I have relating this facility but it isn't something I can really disclose here or easy to do in any sort of believable manner ...lets just say I have additional verification for my statements above then I am saying.

I can only hope there is some sort of advanced culture that survived our own current disarray.


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12-11-2012, 08:13 AM #14
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There isn't just other life and civilizations in this galaxy ...it is teeming with them!
12-11-2012, 08:47 AM #15
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Logically, that should be the case. If we're all alone in the universe, that is the scary part. Interesting information.

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