(03-14-2017, 12:00 PM)Kreeper Wrote: Income taxes have to be on your gross income because the taxes are what cause you to have gross and net income. Insurance premiums and retirement are taken out pre-tax but everything else is taxes. (Excluding wage garnishments. Not sure about them.)
Yes I know that they HAVE to tax gross because they can not tax net (although they do account for the fact if people have children, but you are missing the point. IF they TAXED what WOULD be left over after a person pays expense AND deducts the 'human cost' (ie. one year of your life), there would be nothing left.
I also know that people's wages would be less in the US if they didn't have to pay taxes (just as wages outside of New York city are often 50% to 100% less than what they are in New York City due to the actual expenses one has to deal with when they live there). But still, it is a HUGE burden for US taxpayers that makes it hard for them to compete with other workers on an equal level, since even if you work as hard or even harder in the US than people in other parts of the world there is almost NO WAY you can survive on what they pay people there here, just as you can't live in New York what they people that live outside of New York.
(03-14-2017, 12:00 PM)Kreeper Wrote: In answer to your question: racketeering v taxes? One is enforced by busted kneecaps- the other is enforced by "law" enforcement, property seizures, fines and the threat of prison. One makes no pretense toward being "legal" while the other insists it is. One is operated in the dark while the other claims we chose it by choosing our "leaders". One claims your business might catch fire without it while the other claims that the world will fall into ruin without it.
That's about it.
Give enough money and other resources to a criminal element and I'm sure they can create some pretense as being legal. From what I have hear Hezbollah has social programs to help the poor and ISIS has set up some kind of sudo government to 'collect taxes' (or protection money depending on how you look at it) in order provide their own version of social programs, 'security', as well as their version of 'Islamic law'.
Also in Russia a lot of the government is run by what is Ex-KGB or influenced by what was left over of the KGB from the Cold War era. While the KGB isn't exactly the same thing as a criminal organization, they are not all that different either in that they are more likely willing to get techniques used by criminals such as sending actual convicted criminals over to the US in order to create problems for defectors and/or gain intelligence.
I'm not saying that ALL governments and ALL taxes are 'evil', I'm just saying that there is a similarity in how they operate.; and oppressive taxes can be equally oppressive as people having to pay racketeering money. When you think about how people have to pay the burden to BOTH the costs of military security of the world as well as almost ALL pharmaceutical research costs (since governments with socialized medicine force pharmaceuticals to sell them drugs at costs and pharmaceutical lobby the US government to for US citizens to pay for whatever price the drug companies want to sell to people in the US at) and then are ALSO left unprotected during trade wars (since US companies as well as the US government are more than happy to outsource all our jobs and technology to other countries if it means a few extra bucks in their pockets or re-election campaigns) then you realize how US citizens have a huge burden placed on them that isn't felt as much in other developed countries.
In fact, it is not too often that a US citizen has trouble trying to work and pay for expenses here and then finds it easier when they travel abroad to work in other places. While the accommodations might be not what they are use to, I'm pretty sure there is less expectations of them. Well at least from what I hear from people immigrating to the US, things are often a lot less strict other places.