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The 2nd Amendment Protest in Buffalo, NY: JoinThe Revolution Against The Federal Goverment
02-02-2013, 09:53 PM #1
nofacemovement Member
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The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.

02-03-2013, 12:49 AM #2
オタマジャクシ Member
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"385 assault weapon deaths that Feinstein claims translate into a bit under 50"
Feinstein claims there have been 385 deaths in the 8 years since the ban expired. That is 48.125 deaths per year (someone apparently gets a arm shot off every year).

How many US homicides in 2011: 12664

The following cause more deaths than assault weapons:
1. Handguns.
2. Other rifles
3. Shotguns.
4. Knives
5. Arson
6. Bare hands
7. Beating with sticks
8. Strangulation.

Roughly 10 times as many people die falling out of bed than are killed by Assault Weapons. There is no weapon class that causes fewer deaths. Assault weapons do kill 41% more people than dogs. 60% more people than ants, and 3.7 times as many people as vending machines.

How bad is it? Autoerotic Asphyxiation kills 12.47 times as many people as Assault Weapons.

So I guess there is one class of weapon that does kill fewer people than Assault Weapons: the vending machine.
02-03-2013, 01:10 AM #3
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:15,450 Threads:464 Joined:Jun 2012
This whole gun control thing is such a clusterfuck, but I guess Obama must appear to be doing something about it, even though in the long run this will not stop the sale of automatic weapons, you know why?, because a bigger AW black market will be created. What's the NRA doing about it?
02-03-2013, 01:52 AM #4
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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I believe banning the latest class of antidepressants would result in a lessening of these incidents. The real issue here has yet to be addressed IMO.


02-03-2013, 01:54 AM #5
Octo Mother Superior
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(02-03-2013, 12:49 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  How bad is it? Autoerotic Asphyxiation kills 12.47 times as many people as Assault Weapons.

02-03-2013, 02:59 AM #6
オタマジャクシ Member
Posts:1,098 Threads:31 Joined:Nov 2012
(02-03-2013, 01:10 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  This whole gun control thing is such a clusterfuck, but I guess Obama must appear to be doing something about it, even though in the long run this will not stop the sale of automatic weapons, you know why?, because a bigger AW black market will be created. What's the NRA doing about it?

Unique you are a dear and are very concerned about these things. But someone has been misinforming you.

There are only two instances of homicide by legal automatic weapons since 1934, and one of them was by a police officer.
On September 15th, 1988, a 13-year veteran of the Dayton, Ohio police department, Patrolman Roger Waller, then 32, used his fully automatic MAC-11 .380 caliber submachine gun to kill a police informant

Supposedly a murder occurred in September 14, 1992, but no information is available and there.

Found it.

Brunswick Hills, Ohio doctor Shou Chao Ho killed another physician using his legally owned MAC-11 on September 14, 1992.
Automatic weapons are less than 0.1% of legal weapons in the US.

Illegal automatic weapons are used in less than 0.5% crimes, probably about 0.1% of crimes. It isn't clear how many people are killed but it is less than 0.5% of gun homicides and probably about 0.1%.

In Miami at the height of the drug war illegal automatic weapons were used in less than 1% of gun crimes.

Automatic weapons are used so seldom (less than the number of ant related homicides in any given year) that no one tracks it.

Given the statistics there actually is no reason to ban or heavily regulate automatic weapons either.

Since police have committed 50% of the murders with legal automatic weapons - we should either stop regulating them for everyone or ban the police from using them.



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