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05-22-2018, 09:06 PM #16
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(05-22-2018, 08:47 PM)Team Uzi Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 08:35 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 08:16 PM)Team Uzi Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 08:04 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 05:57 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  From the horses mouth: https://eugdprcompliant.com/cookies-consent-gdpr/
We give no cookies that stick with you unless you log in, and that's ONLY to keep you logged in, the other is standard MyBB functionality so the site can be used.
We track no one and never ask for personal data nor sell it to 3rd parties.
It all depends on what your doing. If you're with some ad company giving people a tracking pixel you'll have to comply.

This is a real thing. Facebook finally acknowledged it yesterday in a PM to me.

Since I have an online business, we do track cookies of customers and for affiliates. It's essential that we do so.

I"m not technically savvy in the least. So I'd have to pay my webmaster a lot of money to get up to speed on it with no assurances that we'd be compliant. I just ordered some software to help make my wordpress pages pretty much compliant. "Pretty good" isn't good enough in this case, plus there are a lot of factors in providing the necessary content.

As I mentioned before, our company would become a target of a witch hunt if we gain any visibility because what we have will definitely disrupt the medical and pharmaceutical industries.

I don't understand why a US company would be subject to EU regulations, but that appears to be the case.

The people of Europe need to revolt and burn a few witches. They wear pinstripe.
Agreed!
Here in the U.S., it's just like pulling teeth to make people understand that Net neutrality is a stupid idea.
They want big government to regulate the internet.
Government doesn't do anything well, especially anything technical.
They want a monopoly and everyone knows how those things work out.
Fortunately, with the arrival of 5G, internet access and speed will make their issues with the current status quo look ridiculous.

The fastest thing about 5G will be how fast it kills us off and how fast society collapses. Everyone will be sick probably within a week and society will fall apart the next day. On the plus side, the roads will be empty.

İmage

Besides, that's what tinfoil is for!

You better stock up on the Alcoa.

Don't worry, it won't affect you - just your plants. :rolleyes:
http://www.magdahavas.com/microwave-radi...ms-plants/

Let's make 5G safe by installing zirconium ceramic bricks to the cell masts. It will save the providers billions of dollars quickly by reducing interference.

Can you ask yourself "Why do I love discovering how my protons can experience Loving Kindness?"
05-22-2018, 09:08 PM #17
JR nli Incognito Anonymous
 
(05-22-2018, 08:04 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Since I have an online business, we do track cookies of customers and for affiliates. It's essential that we do so.

I"m not technically savvy in the least. So I'd have to pay my webmaster a lot of money to get up to speed on it with no assurances that we'd be compliant. I just ordered some software to help make my wordpress pages pretty much compliant. "Pretty good" isn't good enough in this case, plus there are a lot of factors in providing the necessary content.

As I mentioned before, our company would become a target of a witch hunt if we gain any visibility because what we have will definitely disrupt the medical and pharmaceutical industries.

I can see you've got a lot on your plate with this due to product nature, but regarding cookies - as long as you let them know what what you're giving them and make them interact by agreeing to make the banner go away... your covered.
They accepted cookies.
It took me 5 min. to do the one I just put on, and I'm not charging myself a penny.
05-22-2018, 09:12 PM #18
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(05-22-2018, 09:04 PM)Octo Wrote:  
Below Average Genius Wrote:The people of Europe need to revolt and burn a few witches. They wear pinstripe.

This law is to protect personal information of that people. People have the right to know how their information is being used and you're going to be in trouble if you don't want to tell them.

Sites typically have privacy pages already.

BTW, stores take your picture every time you go in. Lots of them. Airports fill you up with their radiation machines and take pictures as well. Are we going to start fining them 20 million Euros?

What information do the stores collect when you pay with a debit or credit card?

Let's make 5G safe by installing zirconium ceramic bricks to the cell masts. It will save the providers billions of dollars quickly by reducing interference.

Can you ask yourself "Why do I love discovering how my protons can experience Loving Kindness?"
05-22-2018, 09:16 PM #19
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(05-22-2018, 09:08 PM)JR nli Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 08:04 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Since I have an online business, we do track cookies of customers and for affiliates. It's essential that we do so.

I"m not technically savvy in the least. So I'd have to pay my webmaster a lot of money to get up to speed on it with no assurances that we'd be compliant. I just ordered some software to help make my wordpress pages pretty much compliant. "Pretty good" isn't good enough in this case, plus there are a lot of factors in providing the necessary content.

As I mentioned before, our company would become a target of a witch hunt if we gain any visibility because what we have will definitely disrupt the medical and pharmaceutical industries.

I can see you've got a lot on your plate with this due to product nature, but regarding cookies - as long as you let them know what what you're giving them and make them interact by agreeing to make the banner go away... your covered.
They accepted cookies.
It took me 5 min. to do the one I just put on, and I'm not charging myself a penny.

You might think you're protected, but are you really? I have software for Wordpress. There are seven parts to it. Each part queries me as to what I want to do. Each plug in has the same process.

There is a 2% fine of annual revenues for not meeting the witches' standards for archiving. Their standards could change any day without letting us know. That means you need an employee or a lawyer to keep abreast of any changes.

Let's make 5G safe by installing zirconium ceramic bricks to the cell masts. It will save the providers billions of dollars quickly by reducing interference.

Can you ask yourself "Why do I love discovering how my protons can experience Loving Kindness?"
05-22-2018, 09:31 PM #20
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(05-22-2018, 09:16 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 09:08 PM)JR nli Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 08:04 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Since I have an online business, we do track cookies of customers and for affiliates. It's essential that we do so.

I"m not technically savvy in the least. So I'd have to pay my webmaster a lot of money to get up to speed on it with no assurances that we'd be compliant. I just ordered some software to help make my wordpress pages pretty much compliant. "Pretty good" isn't good enough in this case, plus there are a lot of factors in providing the necessary content.

As I mentioned before, our company would become a target of a witch hunt if we gain any visibility because what we have will definitely disrupt the medical and pharmaceutical industries.

I can see you've got a lot on your plate with this due to product nature, but regarding cookies - as long as you let them know what what you're giving them and make them interact by agreeing to make the banner go away... your covered.
They accepted cookies.
It took me 5 min. to do the one I just put on, and I'm not charging myself a penny.

You might think you're protected, but are you really? I have software for Wordpress. There are seven parts to it. Each part queries me as to what I want to do. Each plug in has the same process.

There is a 2% fine of annual revenues for not meeting the witches' standards for archiving. Their standards could change any day without letting us know. That means you need an employee or a lawyer to keep abreast of any changes.

There's nothing that provides protection for anyone. They want tracking available for their own nefarious purposes but don't want anyone else to, like Zuckerman/burg, to make a profit in data mining.
Not being able to regulate the mining profit in the profiles simply affords them the luxury to hold domains under the barrel of a gun and demand a tariff as well as a fine for non compliance. It's a way of getting their cut, being an internet police agency and curtailing speech that is deemed seditious.
It's evil genius!

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05-22-2018, 09:42 PM #21
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(05-22-2018, 09:12 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 09:04 PM)Octo Wrote:  
Below Average Genius Wrote:The people of Europe need to revolt and burn a few witches. They wear pinstripe.

This law is to protect personal information of that people. People have the right to know how their information is being used and you're going to be in trouble if you don't want to tell them.

Sites typically have privacy pages already.

BTW, stores take your picture every time you go in. Lots of them. Airports fill you up with their radiation machines and take pictures as well. Are we going to start fining them 20 million Euros?

What information do the stores collect when you pay with a debit or credit card?

No stores are taking your picture here chuckle.gif But there's CCTV of course.
05-22-2018, 09:45 PM #22
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(05-22-2018, 09:16 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 09:08 PM)JR nli Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 08:04 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Since I have an online business, we do track cookies of customers and for affiliates. It's essential that we do so.

I"m not technically savvy in the least. So I'd have to pay my webmaster a lot of money to get up to speed on it with no assurances that we'd be compliant. I just ordered some software to help make my wordpress pages pretty much compliant. "Pretty good" isn't good enough in this case, plus there are a lot of factors in providing the necessary content.

As I mentioned before, our company would become a target of a witch hunt if we gain any visibility because what we have will definitely disrupt the medical and pharmaceutical industries.

I can see you've got a lot on your plate with this due to product nature, but regarding cookies - as long as you let them know what what you're giving them and make them interact by agreeing to make the banner go away... your covered.
They accepted cookies.
It took me 5 min. to do the one I just put on, and I'm not charging myself a penny.

You might think you're protected, but are you really? I have software for Wordpress. There are seven parts to it. Each part queries me as to what I want to do. Each plug in has the same process.

There is a 2% fine of annual revenues for not meeting the witches' standards for archiving. Their standards could change any day without letting us know. That means you need an employee or a lawyer to keep abreast of any changes.

Like any plugin, they are as good as who wrote them.
I'm not worried in the least about it and I have several commerce sites I deal with.

wonder.gif
05-22-2018, 10:29 PM #23
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(05-22-2018, 09:45 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 09:16 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 09:08 PM)JR nli Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 08:04 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Since I have an online business, we do track cookies of customers and for affiliates. It's essential that we do so.

I"m not technically savvy in the least. So I'd have to pay my webmaster a lot of money to get up to speed on it with no assurances that we'd be compliant. I just ordered some software to help make my wordpress pages pretty much compliant. "Pretty good" isn't good enough in this case, plus there are a lot of factors in providing the necessary content.

As I mentioned before, our company would become a target of a witch hunt if we gain any visibility because what we have will definitely disrupt the medical and pharmaceutical industries.

I can see you've got a lot on your plate with this due to product nature, but regarding cookies - as long as you let them know what what you're giving them and make them interact by agreeing to make the banner go away... your covered.
They accepted cookies.
It took me 5 min. to do the one I just put on, and I'm not charging myself a penny.

You might think you're protected, but are you really? I have software for Wordpress. There are seven parts to it. Each part queries me as to what I want to do. Each plug in has the same process.

There is a 2% fine of annual revenues for not meeting the witches' standards for archiving. Their standards could change any day without letting us know. That means you need an employee or a lawyer to keep abreast of any changes.

Like any plugin, they are as good as who wrote them.
I'm not worried in the least about it and I have several commerce sites I deal with.

This message just arrived in my email from Shopify. "....That said, the GDPR is an extremely complicated set of requirements that will apply differently from store to store, and we recommend speaking with a lawyer or data protection professional if you have specific questions about how the GDPR applies to your business."

No problem...if I screw up its a mere twenty mil.

Let's make 5G safe by installing zirconium ceramic bricks to the cell masts. It will save the providers billions of dollars quickly by reducing interference.

Can you ask yourself "Why do I love discovering how my protons can experience Loving Kindness?"
05-22-2018, 11:38 PM #24
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Unless you have that kind of money I wouldn't worry, I'm pretty sure the EU won't extradite you and put you in debtors prison. chuckle.gif
05-23-2018, 02:14 AM #25
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(05-22-2018, 11:38 PM)Adde Wrote:  Unless you have that kind of money I wouldn't worry, I'm pretty sure the EU won't extradite you and put you in debtors prison.  chuckle.gif

In our case it's not money they would be after, so much as they would want to force us to close our doors.

Let's make 5G safe by installing zirconium ceramic bricks to the cell masts. It will save the providers billions of dollars quickly by reducing interference.

Can you ask yourself "Why do I love discovering how my protons can experience Loving Kindness?"
05-23-2018, 03:01 AM #26
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(05-23-2018, 02:14 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 11:38 PM)Adde Wrote:  Unless you have that kind of money I wouldn't worry, I'm pretty sure the EU won't extradite you and put you in debtors prison.  chuckle.gif

In our case it's not money they would be after, so much as they would want to force us to close our doors.

It makes sense.
Cut the EU completely off the internet just before the storm.
Think about that!

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05-23-2018, 11:51 AM #27
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That would suck for me, and a lot of others here. We all have governments that don't necessarily represent the people.

Un Strigoi printre noi
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05-23-2018, 12:07 PM #28
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(05-23-2018, 02:14 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 11:38 PM)Adde Wrote:  Unless you have that kind of money I wouldn't worry, I'm pretty sure the EU won't extradite you and put you in debtors prison.  chuckle.gif

In our case it's not money they would be after, so much as they would want to force us to close our doors.

wtf2.gif  No offense intended but you're way too freaked out over this OP. You just have to tell people that land on your page they are getting cookies. If you're working with a 3rd party ad company, it should be their responsibility to tell you exactly what needs to be said on your cookie warning banner to avoid legal trouble. If they can't do that abandon ship and find someone who will. Your IT guy is full of shit, and Wordpress sucks ass as a store. You must have had a real slick salesman to get you locked into to this. Nobody's going to come after you unless you're a big fish.
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05-23-2018, 04:07 PM #29
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There are a million vampires in web advertising and web design that are out to take your money and provide nothing in return.
05-23-2018, 04:41 PM #30
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(05-23-2018, 12:07 PM)Random German Guy Wrote:  
(05-23-2018, 02:14 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(05-22-2018, 11:38 PM)Adde Wrote:  Unless you have that kind of money I wouldn't worry, I'm pretty sure the EU won't extradite you and put you in debtors prison.  chuckle.gif

In our case it's not money they would be after, so much as they would want to force us to close our doors.

wtf2.gif  No offense intended but you're way too freaked out over this OP. You just have to tell people that land on your page they are getting cookies. If you're working with a 3rd party ad company, it should be their responsibility to tell you exactly what needs to be said on your cookie warning banner to avoid legal trouble. If they can't do that abandon ship and find someone who will. Your IT guy is full of shït, and Wordpress sucks ass as a store. You must have had a real slick salesman to get you locked into to this. Nobody's going to come after you unless you're a big fish.

Easy for you to say. Have you read the regulations? The GDPR 119 pages long of tiny print. Here is but one example picked at random from this monstrosity:

"In accordance with Council Directive 93/13/EEC (1) a declaration of consent preformulated
by the controller should be provided in an intelligible and easily accessible form, using clear and plain
language and it should not contain unfair terms."


What is Council Directive 93/13/EEC (1)

What is an intelligible and easily accessible form? Who defines those terms? Where are they defined?

What is an unfair term?

If you can't define the terms, you're risking 20 million Euros or 4% of annual gross revenues whichever is HIGHER,

Are you willing to bet 20 million Euros on your answer? It's not really a bet mind you because they don't give you 20 million Euros if you are correct. They simply take 20 million if you are wrong.

Could you afford to make one mistake, say on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 when the regulators make a ruling you're not are of right away? Could you afford to defend your company from a vulture lawyers who trump up a class action lawsuit?

As for the size of our company, I expect we will be a multibillion dollar operation in a few years and a trillion dollar company in 10 years. We have products needed by every person who sues a cell phone (5 billion people) and we're protected by a broad patent. Our patented product will greatly increase the desire for our other lines of products based on the same technology. In other words the patented product will be but 1% of our sales.

What we will do so long as the regulations are in place is to enlist US distributors who are willing to take the risk.

Always be wary of governments that offer to "protect you" with a new law that you didn't get to vote on. (See Animal Farm.)

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/...79&from=EN

Let's make 5G safe by installing zirconium ceramic bricks to the cell masts. It will save the providers billions of dollars quickly by reducing interference.

Can you ask yourself "Why do I love discovering how my protons can experience Loving Kindness?"



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