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The Fukushima Disaster
03-16-2011, 08:48 PM #151
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Yeah jdoom, you always reminded me a little of a young Roger, always straightforward 37.gif too much for some people I guess, but I personally didn't mind at all. You wouldn't be you otherwise, and at least everybody pretty much always knows where they stand with you cheers.gif

That killing of the dolphins...it's ğkking reprehensible on every level. People that work with them will tell you they are as bright as people.

Perhaps even smarter, they certainly don't build nuclear facilities and pretend they are safe.

03-16-2011, 10:33 PM #152
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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yay.gif <-------<<< " Jump,,, Jump for Joy, your right on time.

here is a poem i wrote back about the turn of the last century

" A little south of the weather,
a little east of spring,

a swift wind shall rise,
changing everything.

From the Dawn of Eden
unto the Twilight of time

From the spawn of the first seedling
to the last thought on your mind,

Every man has had to struggle

everyman has had to struggle to survive

everyman has the right to be free
everyman has a right to be alive.


the rest i forgot

be back later to finish it
if i ever remember it in full.

heh heh
but it fits this shït like a spandex toilet.
03-16-2011, 10:37 PM #153
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Quote:heh heh
but it fits this shït like a spandex toilet.

rofl.gif I haven't seen one of those since the 80's! hilarious!

But yeah, great poem Rog' and it fits like a glove.

03-16-2011, 10:45 PM #154
Octo Mother Superior
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Radiation 'extremely high' as Fukushima reactor fuel pool runs dry, NRC chair warns

There is no water left in the spent fuel pool of reactor No. 4 at Japan's Fukushima nuclear plant, resulting in "extremely high" radiation levels, the chair of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission warned Wednesday.

Read more:

Seems like İmage

Get out of Tokyo now! Foreign Office tells all Britons to evacuate Japanese capital as French say stricken reactors are out of control


There are 17 000 Brits in Japan, the vast majority in Tokyo damned.gif
03-16-2011, 10:52 PM #155
Octo Mother Superior
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U.S. asks citizens in 80-km radius of Japan nuke plant to evacuate
WASHINGTON, March 16, Kyodo

The U.S. Embassy in Japan has asked American citizens living within an 80-kilometer radius of the quake-hit Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant in Japan to evacuate as a precautionary measure.

The advice was issued Thursday local time while the Japanese government currently sets the evacuation zone covering areas within a 20-km radius of the plant.


03-16-2011, 11:26 PM #156
Cynicalabsurdance Member
Posts:10,340 Threads:231 Joined:Feb 2011
What about the Surf Bums?

Like Woa Dude
what's that Dude?

Fly out?

Woa` Dude, like, you got the change for that man?
Cos', i like am hangin' a dime big dude,

all i got man.

Even cheap seats have hit the premium gouge range and above.

It's a Bitch to be a Broke Dick in an Evac_Zone Man,,,

can you imagine,,,, like being in a Burning Jail Cell, and someone left you there,,, and took the key.

I am absolutely certain of this one thing: I'd Catch the next Sue-Nami back to the states.
03-16-2011, 11:43 PM #157
Octo Mother Superior
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no shït! At least I'd start walking aaah2.gif
03-16-2011, 11:55 PM #158
Upāsaka Member
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The Nation

Quote: If the spent rods start to burn, huge amounts of radioactive material would be released into the atmosphere and would disperse across the Northern Hemisphere.

Unlike the reactors, spent fuel pools are not—repeat not—housed in any sort of hardened or sealed containment structures. Rather, the fuel rods are packed tightly together in pools of water that are often several stories above ground.

“With damaged [fuel rod] pools, we are talking about things that were never considered a credible threat,” said Alvarez.

Aileen Mioko Smith, director of Green Action Kyoto, met Fukushima plant and government officials in August 2010. “At the plant they seemed to dismiss our concerns about spent fuel pools,” said Mioko Smith. “At the prefecture, they were very worried but had no plan for how to deal with it.”

Remarkably, that is the norm—both in Japan and in the United States. Spent fuel pools at Fukushima are not equipped with backup water-circulation systems or backup generators for the water-circulation system they do have.

The exact same design flaw is in place at Vermont Yankee, a nuclear plant of the same GE design as the Fukushima reactors. At Fukushima each reactor has between 60 and 83 tons of spent fuel rods stored next to them. Vermont Yankee has a staggering 690 tons of spent fuel rods on site.

Nuclear safety activists in the United States have long known of these problems and have sought repeatedly to have them addressed. At least get backup generators for the pools, they implored. But at every turn the industry has pushed back, and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) has consistently ruled in favor of plant owners over local communities.

After 9/11 the issue of spent fuel rods again had momentary traction. Numerous citizen groups petitioned and pressured the NRC for enhanced protections of the pools. But the NRC deemed “the possibility of a terrorist attack...speculative and simply too far removed from the natural or expected consequences of agency action.” So nothing was done—not even the provision of backup water-circulation systems or emergency power-generation systems.

Don't place spent nuclear rods above the farking reactor in the first place.gaah.gif

Reeks of the cheap & Stupid option to me. Surly these rods could have been stored somewhere safer, rather that above the reactor itself, and this is standing operating procedure worldwide.damned.gif

03-17-2011, 12:45 AM #159
Octo Mother Superior
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I thought they placed spent fuel in deep mountain storages encased in led and concrete damned.gif What a nightmare
03-17-2011, 03:19 AM #160
Octo Mother Superior
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The situation at Japan's troubled Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant has slightly improved, although it still raises many questions, a source in the International Atomic Energy Agency has said.
"It seems that Japanese specialists have managed to solve the problem of water supply to reactors and their cooling. At the same time, the situation at the spent fuel storage of the No. 4 reactor remains a concern," the source said.

The IAEA source said it was unlikely that there was a serious meltdown of fuel rods inside the reactors.
Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said on Wednesday Fukushima's blast-hit units 1, 2 and 3 were being "successfully cooled" and radiation levels around the plant did not pose a health threat. Units 5 and 6, where temperatures have been rising since Tuesday, are also being cooled, he said.

03-17-2011, 02:19 PM #161
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
Top US Officials: Japan Nuclear Reactor #4 Completely Breached, In Full Meltdown, Releasing Lethal Radiation


Seems like so many conflicting reports
03-17-2011, 02:30 PM #162
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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hug.gif Good morning Shadow! I see you made it 37.gif Sorry about that anti proxy thing...rofl.gif It's still in development at this point, I should not have tried it without running a test version for a period of time on my local machine.

Too many bugs, did strange things, banned 2 members, and kept everybody out 37.gif Thats not a very warm welcome.

To get back to the point, yes there is evidence 'o plenty the Japanese are cats in the nuclear litterbox right now covering up their radioactive butt slugs.

03-17-2011, 02:31 PM #163
Accidental Stoner Member
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Well...one thing is certain:

If this ends somehow, with the "international community" still intact,
guess which country will be high on the list for location of new plants...

A place with big land, few people, political stability, good infrastructure and a VERY stable seismology...


03-17-2011, 02:37 PM #164
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
rofl.gif no biggy JR. hug.gif Gave Octo a shock yesterday though when she saw my skype message from the day before chuckle.gif

Quote:the Japanese are cats in the nuclear litterbox right now covering up their radioactive butt slugs

rofl.gifrofl.gifrofl.gif what a good analogy
03-17-2011, 02:40 PM #165
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(03-17-2011, 02:31 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Well...one thing is certain:

If this ends somehow, with the "international community" still intact,
guess which country will be high on the list for location of new plants...

A place with big land, few people, political stability, good infrastructure and a VERY stable seismology...


sad2.gif On the upside, it's going to be a tough sell for any new facilities of this nature anywhere.
This is far from over.




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