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The Fukushima Disaster
03-23-2011, 12:34 AM #286
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It's a hard rain that's going to fall

Quote:Twenty years after Chernobyl, in 2006, Swedish National Television (SVT) did a news piece titled "Chernobyl still affects Gavle every day" (Tjernobyl paverkar annu Gavle-vardagen). Among other items, it discusses how wild game is checked for radiation, and how residents now often travel to pick the wild berries or mushrooms that they once collected locally.

The effects of radiation proved lasting, and recent news reports revealed radiation has entered Japan's food chain.

In an article titled "Progress at Japan Reactors; New Signs of Food Radiation", the March 20 New York Times noted: "Spinach from a farm in Hitachi, about 45 miles [72 kilometers] from the plant [Fukushima], contained 27 times the amount of iodine that is generally considered safe, while cesium levels were about four times higher than is deemed safe by Japan. Meanwhile, raw milk from a dairy farm in Litate, about 18 miles from the plant, contained iodine levels that were 17 times higher than those considered safe."

Highlighting what many perceive as a substantive part of the ongoing problem, The Times quoted Japan's deputy chief cabinet secretary, Tetsuro Fukuyama, as observing that he would let his own children "eat the spinach" from Fukushima. The IAEA has stated that only "up to four thousand" fatal cancers will result from Chernobyl.

In contrast to the IAEA's fatality figures, a 2006 Greenpeace report forecast 100,000 cancer fatalities, and a 2010 book by leading Eastern European scientists utilizing original "Slavic language" documents ("Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment"), claims a death toll of 985,000.

While some uncertainties exist, there are hard facts.

Gavle is about 1,600 kilometers from Chernobyl, and the amount of nuclear fuel present at Chernobyl during the 1986 accident is reported as about 180 tons, none of which contained plutonium, an element considerably more toxic than the uranium used in standard reactor fuel. Estimates of the amount of nuclear fuel present at the Fukushima reactors are roughly in the 2000 ton range, dwarfing Chernobyl, and one of the six reactors (number 3) does use a mixture of plutonium and uranium, "mox".

If nothing else, it would appear nuclear power is not the "clean, safe, inexpensive and reliable" energy source some claim. As to what nuclear power is, Fukushima could well prove its defining moment.

03-23-2011, 01:42 AM #287
Octo Mother Superior
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yup...still elevated CS-137 levels in shrooms a bit further south from here as well sad2.gif
03-23-2011, 10:07 AM #288
Octo Mother Superior
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Radioactive iodine exceeding limit for infants found in Tokyo tap water
TOKYO, March 23, Kyodo

The Tokyo metropolitan government warned Wednesday that infants should not drink tap water as radioactive iodine exceeding the limit for them were detected in water at a purification plant.

According to the metropolitan government, 210 becquerels of radioactive iodine were detected per 1 kilogram of water against the limit of 100 becquerels.

The detection follows the devastating earthquake earlier this month that crippled Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.



03-23-2011, 02:07 PM #289
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Quote:Fukushima Engineer Says He Helped Cover Up Flaw at Dai-Ichi Reactor No. 4

One of the reactors in the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant may have been relying on flawed steel to hold the radiation in its core, according to an engineer who helped build its containment vessel four decades ago.

The reactor, which Tanaka has called a “time bomb,” was shut for maintenance when the March 11 earthquake triggered a 7-meter (23-foot) tsunami that disabled cooling systems at the plant, leading to explosions and radiation leaks.

“Who knows what would have happened if that reactor had been running?” Tanaka, who turned his back on the nuclear industry after the Chernobyl disaster, said in an interview last week. “I have no idea if it could withstand an earthquake like this. It’s got a faulty reactor inside.”

13.gif Sounds as if this was thrown together in the same haphazard cut costs way that bp was using. Thank god it was shut down during the quake.

03-23-2011, 02:30 PM #290
Octo Mother Superior
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Radioactive particles to hit Europe today, German expert says

Air currents are expected to bring radioactive particles from Japan to Central Europe on Wednesday, though radiation levels will be negligible, the Federal Office for Radiation Protection (BfS) said Wednesday.

In recent days experts have measured the spread of radioactivity from the nuclear crisis at Fukushima first in California, then in Iceland, head of the BfS gauging station near Freiburg, Erich Wirth, told broadcaster MDR INFO.

“And from there it’s no longer far off from Central Europe,” he said.

Still, the radioactivity will be “very, very low,” he added.

“Practically the contamination won’t rise,” he told the station.

So far levels have not risen in Germany, the expert said, adding that the great distance between the country and Japan would likely mean only a slight increase in radioactivity.

03-23-2011, 02:31 PM #291
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
As was reported only on Zero Hedge so far, the termal imagery from Fukushima indicates that if reactor one is a "worry", then reactor 3 should be a "nightmare", as according to some it is now "operating" north of 500 degrees celsius, and possibly as high as a 1,000. That's three times what it is designed to withstand.



03-23-2011, 02:48 PM #292
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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hug.gif Hey Shadow! Have you seen the pics of the control room on reactor 3?
Now heres reactor 3 from the outside
Does it seem a bit odd they are in there with no radiation suits and all is well, yet reactor 3 is clearly a pile of rubble?


We are being told lies.

03-23-2011, 03:08 PM #293
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
hug.gif Hej JR
They'll lie as much as they can get away with and then some. Crazy thing is so many people won't accept that they're being lied to, staunchly believe what the tv tells them. I asked my sister on the coast to get KI and she flatly refused. I said 'they're 10 buck go buy some' she said 'I don't have time and besides, they said it isn't a worry' what can you do? dunno.gif
03-23-2011, 03:12 PM #294
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So what is STUK doing?

Why can't I find any Finnish online radiation mapping?

Oh well, fuck all.
Babylon burning, maybe I'll just have to burn with it. bleh.gif
03-23-2011, 03:23 PM #295
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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It just doesn't pay to give advice to closed minds Shadow, they think they know it all because they are totally dependent on the msm to tell them what to think.
The other side of the coin is msm has been sending out conflicting messages, but if you only get your brainwashing from a single source all would seem to be well.

dunno.gif AS, links not working 'eh? First thing that happens in a real emergency, but they don't want people to panic.

03-23-2011, 03:32 PM #296
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
Just Wash The Radioactive Dust Off Contaminated Food
@1:35 in


Wash it off with contaminated water rofl.gif while you're at it, wash off the milk and the water before you drink it gaah.gifgaah.gif
03-23-2011, 03:35 PM #297
Shadow Incognito Anonymous

03-23-2011, 03:35 PM #298
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Yes, just rinse the milk and then it's safe and... gaah.gif wtf2.gif

03-23-2011, 03:37 PM #299
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(03-23-2011, 03:23 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  dunno.gif AS, links not working 'eh? First thing that happens in a real emergency, but they don't want people to panic.

You got links for online, real time radiation levels in Finland?
Please point me there...

I can't find one...a bit strange if STUK offers no such service..?
03-23-2011, 03:38 PM #300
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
(03-23-2011, 03:23 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  It just doesn't pay to give advice to closed minds Shadow, they think they know it all because they are totally dependent on the msm to tell them what to think.
The other side of the coin is msm has been sending out conflicting messages, but if you only get your brainwashing from a single source all would seem to be well.

Yeah I know, what dismayed me about that is my sister is one of the very few people I know who actually tries to keep an open mind. More than anyone I know actually, but on this, she's decided to snap her mind shut. gaah.gif chuckle.gif



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