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03-23-2011, 03:43 PM #301
Octo Mother Superior
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Oy AS here's a link to European meters...Finland has a lot of them damned.gif


http://eurdeppub.jrc.ec.europa.eu/eurdeppub/home.aspx#
03-23-2011, 03:44 PM #302
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Cast in this unlikely role
Ill-equipped to act
With insufficient tact
One must put up barriers
To keep oneself intact.


Neil Pert-Rush Limelight.

Says it all.

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03-23-2011, 03:47 PM #303
Octo Mother Superior
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Neutron beam observed 13 times at crippled Fukushima nuke plant
TOKYO, March 23, Kyodo

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Wednesday it has observed a neutron beam, a kind of radioactive ray, 13 times on the premises of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant after it was crippled by the massive March 11 quake-tsunami disaster.

TEPCO, the operator of the nuclear plant, said the neutron beam measured about 1.5 kilometers southwest of the plant's No. 1 and 2 reactors over three days from March 13 and is equivalent to 0.01 to 0.02 microsieverts per hour and that this is not a dangerous level.

The utility firm said it will measure uranium and plutonium, which could emit a neutron beam, as well.

In the 1999 criticality accident at a nuclear fuel processing plant run by JCO Co. in Tokaimura, Ibaraki Prefecture, uranium broke apart continually in nuclear fission, causing a massive amount of neutron beams.

In the latest case at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, such a criticality accident has yet to happen.

But the measured neutron beam may be evidence that uranium and plutonium leaked from the plant's nuclear reactors and spent nuclear fuels have discharged a small amount of neutron beams through nuclear fission.

==Kyodo

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/80539.html

Neutron beam?!? damned.gif
03-23-2011, 03:52 PM #304
Accidental Stoner Member
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(03-23-2011, 03:35 PM)Shadow Wrote:  AStoner, here's a recent vid on STUX

Thanx, pretty cowgirl you,
that was very informative.


To avoid confusion: STUK is the Finnish radiation authority.
They say nothing to worry about; only a handful of particles
detected so far, on incoming Japanese flights in Helsinki...



OK, thank you too, Octo!
http://eurdeppub.jrc.ec.europa.eu/eurdeppub/home.aspx#
That is what I was looking for...

Looks like we're in the green = 200 nSv/h
Slightly above normal..?
03-23-2011, 03:54 PM #305
Octo Mother Superior
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Nah it was green a few days ago as well so I think we're naturally slightly more radiated here on the coast dunno.gif
03-23-2011, 03:57 PM #306
Accidental Stoner Member
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OK, thx again for the link...
gotta keep an eye on thatone, I guess.


Bye for now, gotta go wave.gif
03-23-2011, 03:58 PM #307
Octo Mother Superior
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wave.gif see ya
03-23-2011, 04:00 PM #308
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Lets discuss the ramifications of the Neutron beam.

This release would fall under the catagory of enhanced radiation weapon (ERW) A large portion of its energy has been released as energetic neutron radiation rather than explosive energy.

What does it mean?

It means ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF RADIATION were released by ERWs that will be a major source of casualties, in the coming weeks.

Such radiation is able to penetrate buildings, armored vehicles, et al. that will kill people that would otherwise be protected from the normal radiation.

Goodbye Japan, and god knows how far this will spread.

This is the probably the scariest post I've ever made.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb

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03-23-2011, 04:12 PM #309
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(03-23-2011, 03:52 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Thanx, pretty cowgirl you,
that was very informative.


To avoid confusion: STUK is the Finnish radiation authority.
They say nothing to worry about; only a handful of particles
detected so far, on incoming Japanese flights in Helsinki...

hug.gif LOL yeah I realized after. We're getting the same song and dance here gaah.gif
03-23-2011, 04:26 PM #310
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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Hold up there JR, that's a neutron bomb, not beam.

TEPCO early morning of July 15, around 9:00 pm on April 14 announced that it had detected neutrons at the front gate of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

Radiation dose is unknown, and may have come from the primary fuel of Unit 3 of hydrogen exploded Thursday morning.
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TEPCO's english press releases do not give this detail. Their Japanese releases give radiation levels and wind speed as measured by their monitoring car, but it's hard for me to read the translated PDF. It looks like it's saying they have measured 0.001uSv/hour some places, 0.036uSv/hour others, and 90 uSv/hour in a couple.

If I got this right, normal background radiation is 2.4mSv/year, or about 0.3uSv/hour. So only the 90uSv/hr figure is at all abnormal. The column for neutron radiation appears to be zero in the pages I looked at, but it's hard to tell. Maybe there are a couple of lines beyond the Google Translate cutoff.
The 9pm release does not show neutrons; it shows only the 0.036uSv/hour of other radiation.

It's not a neutron beam. Reactors do not normally generate beams. It might indicate a leak of some fuel material; the iodine-131 and cesium-137 reported earlier decay by beta and gamma emission.
But as I say, I can't find the data and I don't know what is a normal neutron level.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?...851AA0E3AW

Apparently nuclear reactors don't emit neutron beams so this is something else entirely.
03-23-2011, 04:44 PM #311
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Quote:Hold up there JR, that's a Hold up there JR, that's a neutron bomb, not beam. bomb, not beam.

Of course, but it's the exact same principal. Try to find a Wiki factoid on a neutron beam, denial.

Certainly beam indicates a more narrow field of energetic neutron radiation than bomb, but everything else is right on the money.

No one need take my hypothesis as truth, time will tell.
Soon.

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03-23-2011, 04:49 PM #312
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(03-23-2011, 04:44 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Of course, but it's the exact same principal. Try to find a Wiki factoid on a neutron beam, denial.

Certainly beam indicates a more narrow field of energetic neutron radiation than bomb, but everything else is right on the money.

No one need take my hypothesis as truth, time will tell.
Soon.

You're right, I did look and there's very little if any info on neutron beams other than what lab, where. Still many sources say reactors do not emit beams. ???
03-23-2011, 05:15 PM #313
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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They are not supposed to emit beams Shadow, however, real world and computer simulations can obviously be dramatically different, therefore; one more reason I equated this with a neutron bomb. The pieces fit.

This is real ğkking bad news. How are they going to address this in a few days when the symptoms begin to show? sad2.gif

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03-23-2011, 05:42 PM #314
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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Chernobyl Cleanup Survivor's Message for Japan: 'Run Away as Quickly as Possible'

What message do you have for Japan?

Run away as quickly as possible. Don't wait. Save yourself and don't rely on the government because the government lies. They don't want you to know the truth because the nuclear industry is so powerful.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/22/cherno...id=webmail

She wears a 'Chernobyl necklace' damned.gif
03-23-2011, 06:02 PM #315
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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damned.gif Quite eye-opening. The nuclear industry must go. It's too powerful, thats why we are not getting the real story, the media panders to the industry.

That really put things in perspective.

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