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The Fukushima Disaster
03-24-2011, 02:51 PM #331
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
sad2.gif just gets worse and worse.

Funny how at chernobyl precise exact measurements were taken in every way, yet 24years later Japan hasn't the technology? The blatancy of their lies is disturbing.
03-24-2011, 02:57 PM #332
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Yes they misplaced the technology, much like the recipe for concrete was forgotten after the fall of Rome and not reproduced until 1756. blink.gif

How are they supposed to measure this if they misplaced the technology. gaah.gif


03-24-2011, 03:00 PM #333
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
(03-24-2011, 02:57 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  How are they supposed to measure this if they misplaced the technology. gaah.gif

Ask Scrappy chuckle.gif
03-24-2011, 03:24 PM #334
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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37.gif Yes, or perhaps I'll just medicate myself with beer and forget about it until my thyroid swells to the size of a congenital conjoined twin. beerbong.gif chuckle.gif

03-24-2011, 03:50 PM #335
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Quote:Funny how at chernobyl precise exact measurements were taken in every way

That was not the case, the cover up was huge and continues to be. The first people to bring to light the events at chernobyl, were the Swedish when they were picking up high levels of radiation emanating from the Soviet Union. Watching the documentary the battle for Chenobyl, who can see the level of cover up, the bravery of young men from all of the soviet union, who were not told how dangerous the working conditions really were. That the robots that were sent to clean highly radioactive graphite from the roof malfunctioned due to radiation! Young men were sent instead to shovel it into the void.

Meetings about Chenobyl disaster were conducted in secret headed by Hans Blix, head of the IAEA at the time. The Soviet Minister/scientist incharge of calculating predictions of the future fall out on health of citizens predicted that cancer rates could increase as much as 40,000. He was ignored the figured released to the public was 4000. The soviet scientist later 'committed suicide'.

I see parallels in both governments, in down playing the disaster to placate the populace. But Geiger counters are much more widely available/cheaper. People can see for themselves, they don't need to rely on Government for stats.
03-24-2011, 04:05 PM #336
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
Clearly I meant that back in 1986 they had the capability to measure radiation in many ways in many places in any concentration. A capability Japan is denying today.
03-24-2011, 04:09 PM #337
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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cheers.gif Good day P! Certainly Geiger counters are the ticket, however I know of no one who actually has one. I used to own a couple back when I was in the environmental remediation business.
Never found any use for them.

03-24-2011, 08:11 PM #338
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Japan Requests U.S. To Block Popular Websites

Quote:n a recent effort to improve recovery efforts from the recent earthquake and tsunami that hit Japan, the military has decided to block the use of certain websites from its network. Japanese military has reported that these sites are not being blocked due to any content reason but solely to improve the bandwidth necessary for militaristic needs. On Monday the U.S. Pacific Command received a request to block the 13 highest traffic usage sites commonly used on military networks such as YouTube, Google Video, Amazon, eBay, Myspace, and MTV.com.

On a more interesting note to the bandwidth control is the continuing use of Facebook in Japan. The site is considered one of the highest bandwidth usage portals in the region, but it will stay up and running due to its growing use by deployed military personnel. Facebook is the most common way to stay in contact with loved ones and was decided to be an important tool in the recovery of the disaster.

Strategic Military Command spokesperson Rodney Ellison stated to CNN.com, “This is a response to a time of extreme demand for networks. This blockage will be of a temporary nature and may increase or decrease in the size and scope as necessary. We are doing this to facilitate the recovery efforts under way in Japan. We are trying to make sure we are giving them as many avenues and as much support as we can.”

Now I don't claim to know how the tubes of the interwebs function and how they channel info and porn to the world.

But to those that might know a thing or two about how the Internet functions via the web, is this action really necessary?

Seen a lot more of this recently with websites being taken down by governments, for one reason or another ?

03-25-2011, 02:34 AM #339
Octo Mother Superior
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Dunno if you guys missed a most interesting thread or no http://kritterbox.com/showthread.php?tid=328

Zbigniew Jaworowski
Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection - CLOR, Warsaw, Poland

(former chair of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (1981–82) . He was a principal investigator of three research projects of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and of four research projects of the International Atomic Energy Agency. He has held posts with the Centre dEtude Nucleaires near Paris; the Biophysical Group of the Institute of Physics, University of Oslo; the Norwegian Polar Research Institute and the National Institute for Polar Research in Tokyo.) Wrote:
Psychosomatic disorders and the screening effects were the only detectable health consequences among the general population.

Fighting the panic and mass hysteria could be regarded as the most important countermeasure to protect the public against the effects of a similar accident should it [Chernobyl] occur again.

In the centuries to come, the Chernobyl catastrophe will be seen as a proof that nuclear power is a safe means of energy production.
03-25-2011, 01:28 PM #340
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May well be, that widespread panic would kill more people
than the actual accident. Imagine 13 million Tokyoans all
trying to head South at once...

Easily understandable, no?

Yet most of us would appreciate being told the truth at all times.

Tricky sheit.

So glad I'm not the president.
03-25-2011, 01:55 PM #341
Octo Mother Superior
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High-level radiation suspected to be leaking from No. 3 reactor's core
TOKYO, March 25, Kyodo

High-level radiation detected Thursday in water at the No. 3 reactor's turbine building at the crisis-hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant appears to have originated from the reactor core, the government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said Friday.

But no data, such as on the pressure level, have suggested the reactor vessel has been cracked or damaged, agency spokesman Hidehiko Nishiyama emphasized at an afternoon press conference, backing down from his previous remark that there is a good chance that the reactor has been damaged. It remains uncertain how the leakage happened, he added.


No shït AS, I think ignorance would be bliss only for so long when you get irradiated damned.gif
03-25-2011, 02:54 PM #342
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
Radioactive Zirconium Found At Fukushima Confirms Exposed Fuel Rods

The latest development in the Fukushima saga is probably one of the more ominous to date. Yomiuri reports that radioactive Zirconium 95 has been found after samples were taken near the water outlet. Google translated: "Zirconium is used for nuclear fuel cladding, the cladding melts some of the spent nuclear fuel was hot cooling water is lost, possibly mixed with sea water flowing into the large drainage There. TEPCO am on July 23, collected about 330 m south from the water at the point of outlet. Zirconium-95 concentration was 0.23 becquerels per cubic centimeter.


03-25-2011, 03:25 PM #343
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Japan reactor core may be breached
"This reactor, perhaps the most troubled at the six-unit site, holds 170 tons of radioactive fuel in its core. Previous radioactive emissions have come from intentional efforts to vent small amounts of steam through valves to prevent the core from bursting. However, releases from a breach could allow uncontrolled quantities of radioactive contaminants to escape into the surrounding ground or air.

Operators stopped work Friday at units 1 through 3 to check on radiation levels."

updated by JayRodney 3-25-2011 02:17 PM EET (GMT+2)

So, they cant work and hold a Geiger Counter at the same time?

This means meltdown, the amount of radioactive materials that are going into the atmosphere are apparently so high we're not even allowed access to it.

They model the radiation rather than release real readings so it's lower.

Lies radiation poisoning and dead planet are what the NWO has for us.


03-25-2011, 03:48 PM #344
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Quote:Dangerous breach suspected at Japanese nuke plant

A suspected breach in the core at one reactor at a stricken Fukushima nuclear plant could mean more serious radioactive contamination, Japanese officials revealed Friday - a situation the prime minister called "very grave and serious."

A somber Prime Minister Naoto Kan sounded a pessimistic note at a briefing hours after nuclear safety officials said they suspected a breach at the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant that would be a major setback in the urgent mission to stop the facility from leaking radiation.

"The situation today at the Fukushima Dai-ichi power plant is still very grave and serious. We must remain vigilant," Kan said. "We are not in a position where we can be optimistic. We must treat every development with the utmost care."


Guess what kids? beerbong.gif Drink up, we're ƒükkêd more than normal!

03-25-2011, 04:09 PM #345
Octo Mother Superior
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more radiation doom

Ultraviolet radiation is going to be at exceptionally high levels in Finland over the weekend and at the start of next week. The rise in UV radiation is down to an area of depleted ozone passing over Finland.
The UV index is predicted to hit level three, if the weather is clear. The normal level of UV radiation at this time of year is 1.5.
The World Health Organisation advises that people protect themselves from the sun when the level rises above three.
Particular attention should be paid to eye protection, because they are most at risk from UV radiation and the radiation reflects off snow.
Ozone is currently at around 35 percent less than usual. Normally ozone runs at around 400 Dobson units, but the level has now fallen to 260 Dobson units





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