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The Fukushima Disaster
03-31-2011, 08:30 PM #466
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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The Japanese government is in denial, at least on the surface. If there is plutonium in the groundwater / potable water supplies it game over. They should have been making plans to save people, instead they are lying and denying, what we all know governments do best aside from fondling children and removing civil liberties.

You cant find this latest update anywhere on any news other than the linked source, no message boards on the internet have this at the moment.

03-31-2011, 09:20 PM #467
Octo Mother Superior
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Wow! I found this news originally on our local news online and they're citing FNB (Finnish News Agency)-Reuters as their source. However they say that it's the water-filled tunnels that has this amount of radiation not the groundwater as the Kyodo news says damned.gif

03-31-2011, 11:10 PM #468
Octo Mother Superior
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Posted: 3/31/2011
TOKYO (AP) — Officials with Japan's crippled nuclear plant say the groundwater under one reactor has radiation levels 10,000 times greater than the government health standard. But a spokesman for Tokyo Electric Power says it doesn't believe drinking water is affected.


incredible, we posted this over 3 hours ago and it was on AP an hour ago damned.gif wtf
04-01-2011, 12:02 AM #469
Octo Mother Superior
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Workers continue to search for the cause of leaking contaminated water. The government reported today that radioactive contamination in groundwater 15 yards beneath one of the facility's six reactors was measured at 10,000 times the government standard.


15 yards is 13,7 meters. ğck ! aaah2.gif
04-01-2011, 02:14 AM #470
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That means simply, that it's leached into groundwater and into the water table. Dependent upon the connection with other underground aquifers, and in conjunction with soil types any variety of scenarios could occur.

I took a look at soil types around the plant and came up with the following:

The plant itself appears to sit on what the asian soils map refers to as sand dune soils, surrounded by various types of other soils. From North to south moving counterclockwise around the site, we have Andosols, Gray Lowland soils and Brown Lowland Soils, Red-yellow Podzolic Soils and Lithsols and finally, more Gray Lowland soils.

Soil Map Source: http://eusoils.jrc.ec.europa.eu/esdb_arc...000_so.jpg

Initially the positive thing is that all of this area naturally drains toward the sea. The less than fantastic news is based on my own experience sand acts as a filter and underground it can drain any number of ways. Being surrounded with 4 different mainly lowland Asiatic soil classifications could mean the potential exists for trouble.

Usually dune areas going into lowlands have what geologists term sand stringers, they are literally vein like conduits where water can seep for miles into even clay soils.

So good news and bad, once more. Good news is, at least on paper, most is draining away from the aquifer. (but going into the ocean, if that can be considered positive)

The bad news is with concentrations 10,000 times acceptable radiation levels we have a situation where a very small amount has the potential for long term critical damage to the aquifer.

04-01-2011, 02:45 AM #471
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04-01-2011, 08:41 AM #472
Octo Mother Superior
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NEWS ADVISORY: Groundwater highly likely polluted with radiation despite TEPCO error
11:58 1 April

NEWS ADVISORY: Part of TEPCO data on groundwater, trench contamination had error: agency 11:58 1 April


Oops they did it again vic.gif
04-01-2011, 08:58 AM #473
Octo Mother Superior
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Radioactive substances in underground water
Tokyo Electric Power Company says it has detected radioactive substances in underground water at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

TEPCO, operator of the plant, has been checking below-ground water on the advice of the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan.

The company says radioactive water was detected beneath the ground near the turbine buildings of five of the 6 reactors. The remaining reactor, No. 4, could not be checked because it was blocked by debris.

TEPCO says radioactive substances dispersed into the atmosphere may have seeped into the soil through rain and sprayed water.

Highly radioactive water has been found in the basement of the turbine buildings and other locations. Damage to nuclear fuel rods in the reactors is believed to have caused the contamination.

The company will further analyze underground water and release the result later on Friday.

In response to the announcement, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told reporters on Friday morning that the government will tighten monitoring of seawater and nearby areas.
Friday, April 01, 2011 11:23 +0900 (JST)


they call it underground water 13.gif
04-01-2011, 02:36 PM #474
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04-01-2011, 03:07 PM #475
Octo Mother Superior
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NEWS ADVISORY: TEPCO confirms radioactive iodine in groundwater 10,000 times legal limit


04-01-2011, 03:08 PM #476
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The online all inclusive update from NaturalNews.com

A 100-year battle awaits Fukushima while suicide workers are needed to keep up the rescue efforts

Quote:(NaturalNews) The unfolding of the Fukushima catastrophe continues to worsen. Here are today's most important developments:

• A nuclear expert is now warning that it will take 50 to 100 years before the spent nuclear rods at Fukushima will cool enough to be removed from the site. In the mean time, Japan must keep pouring water on the fuel, and that creates highly radioactive water that's being flushed directly into the ocean. So now we're looking at the possibility of a century-long radiation leak (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/...).

• The groundwater underneath the Fukushima nuclear power facility is now showing 10,000 times the level of radiation normally allowed by government authorities. This is from iodine-131 measured at 15 meters below one of the reactors. (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011...)

• You've probably already heard that there have been efforts to use robots to help solve the Fukushima crisis, but those efforts have failed. Then again, who needs robots when you can just pay humans to do the same deadly work? Reuters is now reporting that a U.S. recruiting company is signing up U.S. workers to go to Fukushima and work on-site there as part of the crew that's trying to save the reactors (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-...). Why would anyone agree to do such a thing? Because they're being promised extra pay, if you can believe that.

You gotta wonder, of course, how these people think they're going to be able to spend all that extra money if they're half-dead from radiation poisoning. But hey, if they get paid one dollar for every millirem of radiation they absorb, they could soon be Fukushima's new millionaires!

• The world's largest concrete pumping truck is headed to Japan as part of a plan that can only be the beginning of the total surrender of Fukushima (http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest...). The only reason you need to pump that much concrete is if you're building a giant Chernobyl-like entombment of the Fukushima facility. But who's going to keep spraying the spent nuclear fuel rods with water in the mean time? (Nobody knows...)

• Due to the failure of Fukushima, Tokyo will be experiencing rolling blackouts all summer long. Tokyo's power has been reduced by roughly 20 percent due to the Fukushima catastrophe (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/a...).

• Fukushima workers who have been desperately trying to bring the reactors back under control have said they expect to die due to their repeated exposure to extremely high levels of radiation. Oh, but the Fukushima deniers claim radiation is safe and that no one has even been harmed by it! (Seriously...) (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...)

• Remember, health authorities have been screaming for decades that sunlight exposure is potentially deadly because of the radiation exposure. But Fukushima fallout, we're now told, is perfectly safe for you! I guess only the sun is dangerous, not nuclear fuel rod meltdowns. How's that for public health policy?

04-01-2011, 03:17 PM #477
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
Thanks P, excellent post. So many people I know have their heads in the sand over this. gaah.gif
04-01-2011, 03:48 PM #478
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Quote: The world's largest concrete pumping truck is headed to Japan as part of a plan that can only be the beginning of the total surrender of Fukushima (http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest...). The only reason you need to pump that much concrete is if you're building a giant Chernobyl-like entombment of the Fukushima facility. But who's going to keep spraying the spent nuclear fuel rods with water in the mean time? (Nobody knows...)

Well, lets hope they are not going to use the truck to make millions of tombstones. damned.gif Great compilation P! hi5.gif The sooner they get those mini suns cooled down and covered in concrete the better off we'll all be.
Speaking of sand Shadow, as far as I know reactor 2 is still burning a hole through the concrete drywell, it cant be too much longer before it breaks through and begins to turn the sand on which it sits to glass, breaking though inch by inch till it reaches the water table then..

04-01-2011, 03:54 PM #479
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
Yeah, entombing the reactors won't stop that happening. dunno.gif
04-01-2011, 04:33 PM #480
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
(04-01-2011, 08:41 AM)Octo Wrote:  Oops they did it again vic.gif

And again...

Quote:The utility says it found errors in the program used to analyze radioactive elements and their levels, after some experts noted that radiation levels of leaked water inside the plant were too high."


Blaming their computers now coffeetime.gif



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