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07-05-2012, 04:33 PM #991
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Yes, all through this I kept asking:

Why would they build nuclear reactors to not withstand the most severe earthquakes?
Why would they build nuclear reactors so close to the coastline when tsunamis can be expected?
Why are the government officials not doing or saying anything?
Why isn't the government asking the World for help?

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07-06-2012, 03:43 AM #992
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(07-05-2012, 04:33 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Yes, all through this I kept asking:

Why would they build nuclear reactors to not withstand the most severe earthquakes?
Why would they build nuclear reactors so close to the coastline when tsunamis can be expected?
Why are the government officials not doing or saying anything?
Why isn't the government asking the World for help?

damned.gif


they like nuclear disasters uhoh.gif
07-06-2012, 04:54 AM #993
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(07-06-2012, 03:43 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-05-2012, 04:33 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Yes, all through this I kept asking:

Why would they build nuclear reactors to not withstand the most severe earthquakes?
Why would they build nuclear reactors so close to the coastline when tsunamis can be expected?
Why are the government officials not doing or saying anything?
Why isn't the government asking the World for help?

damned.gif


they like nuclear disasters uhoh.gif


They have major societal problems...not addressed...and perhaps never will be.
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07-06-2012, 11:06 AM #994
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ğck - you - she - ma

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07-06-2012, 07:32 PM #995
Octo Mother Superior
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(07-06-2012, 04:54 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-06-2012, 03:43 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-05-2012, 04:33 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Yes, all through this I kept asking:

Why would they build nuclear reactors to not withstand the most severe earthquakes?
Why would they build nuclear reactors so close to the coastline when tsunamis can be expected?
Why are the government officials not doing or saying anything?
Why isn't the government asking the World for help?

damned.gif


they like nuclear disasters uhoh.gif


They have major societal problems...not addressed...and perhaps never will be.


We all do sad2.gif This should be a concern to all governments everywhere but all they say is 'no it's not that bad' sad2.gif Why isn't the UN doing anything constructive for once?!? Oh it's because Fukushima is not that bad. Carry on, nothing to see here.
07-07-2012, 03:53 PM #996
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(07-06-2012, 07:32 PM)Octo Wrote:  
(07-06-2012, 04:54 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-06-2012, 03:43 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-05-2012, 04:33 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Yes, all through this I kept asking:

Why would they build nuclear reactors to not withstand the most severe earthquakes?
Why would they build nuclear reactors so close to the coastline when tsunamis can be expected?
Why are the government officials not doing or saying anything?
Why isn't the government asking the World for help?

damned.gif


they like nuclear disasters uhoh.gif


They have major societal problems...not addressed...and perhaps never will be.


We all do sad2.gif This should be a concern to all governments everywhere but all they say is 'no it's not that bad' sad2.gif Why isn't the UN doing anything constructive for once?!? Oh it's because Fukushima is not that bad. Carry on, nothing to see here.


damned.gif
07-09-2012, 01:50 PM #997
smart-ass Member
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after all is said and done the Japanese people and country will bounce back from this after all look how strong their economy was after ww2 bloody 2 nuclear bombs couldn't keep em down think in the end they'll be just fine 'Let's hope cheers.gif

Beware of the booger eater he'snot full uhoh.gif
07-11-2012, 09:59 PM #998
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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We seem to have another potential customer for Canada's natural gas pipeline.

Excerpt:

Although relatively expensive, Lovering indicated, “most analysts expect Japan to continue ramping up coal and natural gas electricity production. Renewables currently make up about 1 to 2 percent of Japan’s electricity, but most of that is waste and biomass burning, which is difficult to scale up.”

Joseph Dukert16, senior fellow with the US Association for Energy Economics17 believes a solution will involve, “a gradual rebuilding of the Japanese nuclear stable. The only feasible supplement I can envision, however, is natural gas; and this will depend on a large increase in global gas production and a steady, costly development of delivery infrastructure, both by pipeline and LNG. I expect Japanese energy supply problems to continue for perhaps a decade.”

http://uraniuminvestingnews.com/11919/wh...lants.html

07-13-2012, 04:40 PM #999
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Good news?

Quote:NHK: Fuel rods to be removed from No. 4 fuel pool — Concerns about sea water damage — Special container so fuel doesn’t going critical — Test date not revealed ‘for security reasons’

A crane will be used to pull each of the 2 rods out of the pool, and then place them in a special container on the 5th floor of the reactor building.

The container will prevent the fuel from going critical.

Another crane will lower the container to the ground, where a truck will take it to a facility called a “common pool.”

TEPCO will also check if there’s any damage to the metal container used to store the fuel rods. This is a concern because seawater was used to cool the reactor after last year’s accident.
Read more: enenews.com

so fuel doesn’t going critical 13.gif No speaky engrish? İmage

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07-13-2012, 04:44 PM #1,000
Octo Mother Superior
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Quote:A crane will be used to pull each of the 2 rods out of the pool

2 rods? They're leaving the rest or they can't find them? damned.gif
07-14-2012, 05:36 PM #1,001
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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No news about the missing 2 rods is bad news. damned.gif

It's obvious the existing plants will not be able to withstand a 9.0 earthquake and there will be earthquakes of this magnitude, I believe.

From article:

Given the risks involved, the prevalence of seismic activity in Japan and the diminishing enthusiasm of the Japanese public for nuclear energy, it would be sensible for Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda to err on the side of caution and set as a temporary benchmark the ability to withstand a 9.0 earthquake before a reactor can go back online.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion...51885.html

200 000 protesters in the street! yay.gif

07-14-2012, 05:47 PM #1,002
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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I'm scaring myself now. damned.gif

From article:

I told him that I came to Washington to explain that Japan will not take the first step; its leadership does not have the power to act first and survive politically, and does not have the courage to take the first step without thinking of the second.

http://akiomatsumura.com/2012/06/what-is...g-for.html
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07-16-2012, 11:51 PM #1,003
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36 Percent Of Fukushima Children Have Abnormal Growths From Radiation Exposure

Of more than 38,000 children tested from the Fukushima Prefecture in Japan, 36 percent have abnormal growths – cysts or nodules – on their thyroids only a year after the Fukushima nuclear disaster, as reported by ENENews.

the results in Fukushima show a "much faster progression compared to Chernobyl"

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-stunnin...ure-2012-7

damned.gif Horrible, why are they not evacuating?
07-17-2012, 12:54 AM #1,004
spikeychops Member
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I'm new here, so hi everyone.

Interesting thread...scary, but interesting.

There are a nubber of other options open to Japan, if they are insisting on going nuclear.

They don't have to use the same technology, or fuel for a reactor.

Thorium breeder reactors can use the waste or spent fuel from other more outdated technology, as it's main fuel, clearing up the nuclear waste issue.

Thorium reactors consume all the fuel they are fed, even the waste fuel from conventional, more dangerous reactors and any residual radiation is greatly reduced. If a quake took out a thorium reactor, the dangers from readiation would be very much less than the type they used in Fukushima (and most other's in the world too).

I don't know why these things aren't built a mile or two underground, or sealed deep inside mountains anyway...if it goes up, there wouldn't be any fallout to worry about.

Maybe Japan will see sense and leave nuclear alone entirely, and become the driving force behind alternative energy technologies innovations in the coming few years? I hope so.
07-17-2012, 02:56 AM #1,005
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,101 Threads:1,457 Joined:Feb 2011
wave.gif Spikey, welcome!

Yes it's a really scary thread. It's been pinned since the disaster as a grim reminder of the ongoing horror. People only following mainstream media think this is a non issue anymore. It's a nightmare.

We've been discussing thorium reactors as well and it's insanity it's not being utilized. But as corporate interests continue to rule mankind without regard to either nature or humanity it's pretty much to be expected.

But seriously... Build a nuclear plant where 3 tectonic plates converge and not expect a big earthquake? Really???

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