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The Fukushima Disaster
08-09-2013, 05:09 PM #1,261
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And we just find out now that a plant in Taiwan (a COASTAL plant) has been leaking for quite some time. wtf2.gif

Quote:Taiwan has also had problems on what to do with its nuclear waste, which for many years was dumped on a small island off its southeast coast, to the anger of its aboriginal inhabitants.

Taiwan has previously considered sending its nuclear waste to the Pacific Ocean state of the Marshall Islands and even North Korea.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/902389...nt-leaking

Not only do they not know what to do with the nuclear waste, but they can't handle the safe operation of these plants.

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08-10-2013, 10:12 AM #1,262
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(08-09-2013, 06:36 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(08-08-2013, 09:21 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(08-08-2013, 08:57 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Theres 300 tons of radioactive water flowing into the pacific ocean daily...

I hope the political officials wont try and blow that out of proportion and make themselves even more megabucks,like they already do with their fear mongering mantras about how humans are responsible for greenhouse earth and the polar ice caps melting,when in reality those calamities are being caused by unstoppable and naturally occurring cycles of that star we call the sun...

But they probably will...

According to NOAA the National Oceanic And Atmospheric Administration...

Earths oceans contain 36,614,237,300,000,000,000,000 gallons of water...

So rest assured that any radioactive whatever thats being released into the ocean will be quickly diluted and rendered ineffective and harmless and meaningless...

Many underwater detonations of nuclear weapons were carried out through the years and they released a helluva lot of radioactivity into the earths oceans and nothing was really poisoned and harmed by them...

The earths oceans are unimaginably vast and deep...


You are vastly misunderstanding the situation. 300 tonnes is a low ball number, Fact is. TWO YEARS after the event, turning point, they are still having to cool the coriums! Might want to look up bio accumulation of radiation in the food chain. That a report last year hit the mainstream, where Tuna off the US coast was found to contain cesium, which they tracked from fukushima. just a headline from today — Gundersen: No way to stop Fukushima’s radioactive water going into Pacific — It will continue for at least 20-30 years

One of the biggest creators of oxygen on the planet Plankton, what happens when the Plankton is affected by the radiation?

I could go on and list a myriad of other problems at fukushima, The spent fuel materials, what's left, that didn't explode far and wide into the atmosphere on 3/11. The fact that the reactor buildings sit on top of an aquifer, which they are sinking into.

Oh and no technology currently exists that can handle the coriums.

Granted C02 con, is a game of fear another mechanism of control and profit. But at fukushima maybe, just maybe the psychos realized they f*cked up big time. But I have my doubts that they really care.

300 tons or 3,000 tons daily makes no difference imo...

Earths oceans contain 36,614,237,300,000,000,000,000 gallons of water...

1 gallon of water weighs 8 pounds...

Which means the earths oceans contain 292,913,898,400,000,000,000,000 pounds of water...

Thats two hundred and ninety three billion trillion pounds of ocean water!

Thats one trillion...two hundred and ninety three billion times!

Which means 292,913,898,400,000,000,000,000 pounds of ocean water contains...

36,614,237,300,000,000,000,000 gallons of ocean water...

300 tons of radioactive water weighs 600,000 pounds...

600,000 pounds equals 75,000 gallons of radioactive water...

So we have 75,000 gallons of radioactive water flowing into...

36,614,237,300,000,000,000,000 gallons of ocean water...

Thats thirty six billion trillion gallons of ocean water!

Thats one trillion...thirty six billion times!

Those staggering numbers are speaking very loudly for themselves...

Obviously revealing how 300 tons of radioactive water daily is doing nothing to the ocean...

The solar rays of that star up there we call the sun...

Are probably pouring 10,000 times that much radiation down upon and into the earths oceans every second of every day...

And directly into and through our bodies constantly as well...

Quote: As of January 18, 2013 in 31 countries 437 nuclear power plant units with an installed electric net capacity of about 372 GW are in operation and 68 plants with an installed capacity of 65 GW are in 15 countries under construction.

http://www.euronuclear.org/info/encyclop...d-wide.htm

Friggin progress...

Thats just f###en great...

Thats just really f###en awesome...

Tptb love flirting with disaster dont they...

Your calculation is for one day. There are 365 days in a year and this could go on for 30 years. 365 times 30 = 19,500 which would be divided into the 36,614,237,300,000,000,000,000.

Now we are talking about a much smaller dilution. Plus you are thinking all the radioactivity is evenly distributed in the oceans from the moment it hits the water. But that is not the case at all. Thus your huge number sounds good but it is meaningless.

Only about 1 millionth of the ocean's water is near Fukushima to pick a round number. IOW, the marine life that is in the area will suffer so much it will contaminate the fish and flora that come into contact with the radioactive material.

But the problem is not isolated. According to the EPA surveys of US milk supplies has 2,000% higher readings of radioactivity that what is allowable. So the EPA is raising the acceptable level which is not a solution but a concession. Milk radioactivity is an excellent barometer of overall radiation exposure in our food supply.

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08-10-2013, 09:31 PM #1,263
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(03-16-2013, 04:10 PM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  Sigh.................

This thread should be renamed - Fukushima isn't the disaster - it is a terrible loss of asset problem and cleanup problem for the utility.
From Wiki:

The National Police Agency has confirmed 15,881 deaths,[22] 6,142 injured,[23] and 2,668 people missing[24] across twenty prefectures.[25]

As of 30 April 2012, 18 people had died and 420 had been injured while participating in disaster recovery or clean-up efforts.[195]

Japanese funerals are normally elaborate Buddhist ceremonies which entail cremation. The thousands of bodies, however, exceeded the capacity of available crematoriums and morgues, many of them damaged,[181][182] and there were shortages of both kerosene—each cremation requires 50 liters—and dry ice for preservation.[183] The single crematorium in Higashimatsushima, for example, could only handle four bodies a day, although hundreds were found there.


Some areas around Miyako have subsided (sunk) 4 feet.

As far as the power plant is concerned

According to a June 2012 Stanford University study, the radiation released could cause 130 deaths from cancer (the lower bound for the estimater being 15 and the upper bound 1100) and 180 cancer cases (the lower bound being 24 and the upper bound 1800), mostly in Japan.

An additional approximately 600 deaths [around Fukushima] have been reported due to non-radiological causes such as mandatory evacuations.

The total radiation casualties to date: there may be 3 children with thyroid cancer.


Those stats are total bullsh**. GIGO Garbage in garbage out with their assumptions. There may be three children with thyroid cancer????????

In the US still births and miscarriages are up over 25% since Fukushima even though we are 6,000 to 9,000 miles away, but only three children might have thyroid cancer???????

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08-13-2013, 02:56 AM #1,264
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The earths oceans are all connected into one immense body of water and theres 36,614,237,300,000,000,000,000 gallons of ocean water (thirty six billion trillion gallons of ocean water) (one trillion gallons thirty six billion times) constantly diluting and dissipating and chemically altering whatever (comparatively miniscule to the point of almost complete and utter meaninglessness) radioactive tonnage thats being released daily and all that incomprehensibly vast amount of flowing and circulating ocean water is rendering the microscopic in comparison amount of 75,000 gallons of radioactive water released into it daily as absolutely inconsequential and as I mentioned theres probably 10,000 times that amount of radioactivity pouring down from the sun and into the ocean every second of every day and night...
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08-13-2013, 10:19 PM #1,265
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Akira Kurosawa-Mount Fuji In Red, a short film at the link below. Kurosawa dreamt about a fukushima type event occurring in Japan. Prompting him, perhaps to make the short film.

http://www.trilulilu.ro/video-film/akira...uji-in-red
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08-13-2013, 11:58 PM #1,266
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08-14-2013, 01:57 AM #1,268
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(08-13-2013, 10:19 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  Akira Kurosawa-Mount Fuji In Red, a short film at the link below. Kurosawa dreamt about a fukushima type event occurring in Japan. Prompting him, perhaps to make the short film.

http://www.trilulilu.ro/video-film/akira...uji-in-red


Quote from the film:

No escape, but we have to try.
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08-14-2013, 03:17 PM #1,269
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"I feel that at least several hundred scientists trained in the biomedical aspect of atomic energy –myself included– are candidates for Nuremberg-type trials for crimes against humanity for our gross negligence and irresponsibility. Now that we know the hazard of low-dose radiation, the crime is not experimentation– it’s murder."
- Dr. John Gofman, former Manhattan Project scientist from Berkeley, CA. 1979.
08-15-2013, 07:11 PM #1,270
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08-15-2013, 09:32 PM #1,271
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08-16-2013, 01:23 AM #1,272
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(08-13-2013, 02:56 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  The earths oceans are all connected into one immense body of water and theres 36,614,237,300,000,000,000,000 gallons of ocean water (thirty six billion trillion gallons of ocean water) (one trillion gallons thirty six billion times) constantly diluting and dissipating and chemically altering whatever (comparatively miniscule to the point of almost complete and utter meaninglessness) radioactive tonnage thats being released daily and all that incomprehensibly vast amount of flowing and circulating ocean water is rendering the microscopic in comparison amount of 75,000 gallons of radioactive water released into it daily as absolutely inconsequential and as I mentioned theres probably 10,000 times that amount of radioactivity pouring down from the sun and into the ocean every second of every day and night...


There are multiple fallacies in your line of thinking, but I only have time to address one at the moment.

Radioactivity unlike most chemical reactions don't have a "one and done" actiivity process. If you get exposed to chlorine, for instance, any harmful reactions it causes are limited to you. Each molecule finds a target and that's it.

But radiation is the gift that keeps on giving. If I get exposed to a high level or radiation, and then you come in contact with me, you are also at risk of getting injured by the same radioactive energy.

The same molecule can harm a nearly limitless number of people and animals.

I might come back and expose the rest later. But this is enough on its own to shoot down the dilution argument.

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08-20-2013, 05:27 PM #1,273
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Is this linked blocked for everyone else ?

http://enenews.com/
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08-31-2013, 02:15 PM #1,275
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(08-16-2013, 01:23 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(08-13-2013, 02:56 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  The earths oceans are all connected into one immense body of water and theres 36,614,237,300,000,000,000,000 gallons of ocean water (thirty six billion trillion gallons of ocean water) (one trillion gallons thirty six billion times) constantly diluting and dissipating and chemically altering whatever (comparatively miniscule to the point of almost complete and utter meaninglessness) radioactive tonnage thats being released daily and all that incomprehensibly vast amount of flowing and circulating ocean water is rendering the microscopic in comparison amount of 75,000 gallons of radioactive water released into it daily as absolutely inconsequential and as I mentioned theres probably 10,000 times that amount of radioactivity pouring down from the sun and into the ocean every second of every day and night...


There are multiple fallacies in your line of thinking, but I only have time to address one at the moment.

Radioactivity unlike most chemical reactions don't have a "one and done" actiivity process. If you get exposed to chlorine, for instance, any harmful reactions it causes are limited to you. Each molecule finds a target and that's it.

But radiation is the gift that keeps on giving. If I get exposed to a high level or radiation, and then you come in contact with me, you are also at risk of getting injured by the same radioactive energy.

The same molecule can harm a nearly limitless number of people and animals.

I might come back and expose the rest later. But this is enough on its own to shoot down the dilution argument.
Take an eye dropper of radioactive water...

One drop of water...

Lets color it red for better visual effect...

Split that drop in half...

Split it in half again...

And split it in half again and again and again and again and again and again...

Split it in half again...

And again and again and again and again and again and again...

Now drop that microscopic drip into an olympic sized swimming pool filled with water...

Thats just about an accurate ratio comparison to the size of earths oceans and the amount of radioactive water leaking out of fukushima...

Whats it gonna do?

Nothing...

Whos it gonna harm?

No one...

And theres thousands of times that amount of radioactivity pouring down from the sun and into that olympic sized swimming pool full of water every moment of every day...

And that fact is brushed aside and ignored...

Because its not negatively effecting anything and anyone...

Theres no fear and paranoia to spread about that...



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