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09-01-2013, 04:34 PM #1,276
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Fukushima radiation levels 18 times higher than previously thought

Radiation levels 18 times higher than previously reported have been found near a water storage tank at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, prompting fresh concern over safety at the wrecked facility.

The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco), said radiation near the bottom of the tank measured 1,800 millisieverts an hour – high enough to kill an exposed person in four hours.

Tepco said water levels inside the tank had not changed, indicating there had not been a leak. But the firm said it had yet to discover the cause of the radiation spike.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2...gher-japan

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09-01-2013, 04:35 PM #1,277
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09-03-2013, 11:43 AM #1,278
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(08-31-2013, 02:15 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(08-16-2013, 01:23 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(08-13-2013, 02:56 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  The earths oceans are all connected into one immense body of water and theres 36,614,237,300,000,000,000,000 gallons of ocean water (thirty six billion trillion gallons of ocean water) (one trillion gallons thirty six billion times) constantly diluting and dissipating and chemically altering whatever (comparatively miniscule to the point of almost complete and utter meaninglessness) radioactive tonnage thats being released daily and all that incomprehensibly vast amount of flowing and circulating ocean water is rendering the microscopic in comparison amount of 75,000 gallons of radioactive water released into it daily as absolutely inconsequential and as I mentioned theres probably 10,000 times that amount of radioactivity pouring down from the sun and into the ocean every second of every day and night...


There are multiple fallacies in your line of thinking, but I only have time to address one at the moment.

Radioactivity unlike most chemical reactions don't have a "one and done" actiivity process. If you get exposed to chlorine, for instance, any harmful reactions it causes are limited to you. Each molecule finds a target and that's it.

But radiation is the gift that keeps on giving. If I get exposed to a high level or radiation, and then you come in contact with me, you are also at risk of getting injured by the same radioactive energy.

The same molecule can harm a nearly limitless number of people and animals.

I might come back and expose the rest later. But this is enough on its own to shoot down the dilution argument.
Take an eye dropper of radioactive water...

One drop of water...

Lets color it red for better visual effect...

Split that drop in half...

Split it in half again...

And split it in half again and again and again and again and again and again...

Split it in half again...

And again and again and again and again and again and again...

Now drop that microscopic drip into an olympic sized swimming pool filled with water...

Thats just about an accurate ratio comparison to the size of earths oceans and the amount of radioactive water leaking out of fukushima...

Whats it gonna do?

Nothing...

Whos it gonna harm?

No one...

And theres thousands of times that amount of radioactivity pouring down from the sun and into that olympic sized swimming pool full of water every moment of every day...

And that fact is brushed aside and ignored...

Because its not negatively effecting anything and anyone...

Theres no fear and paranoia to spread about that...

As I explained before dilution has no bearing on radiation. Most chemical reactions are one-and-done. But nuclear reactions don't work that way at all.

If you are contaminated with chlorine or are gassed like the terrorists did to the people of Syria, each molecule affects one molecule in the body.

But if a person is contaminated with radiation, that person must be avoided because whomever they come in contact with will also be irradiated. If they die in a bed, the bed and the person would need to be buried in a leaden box.

The radiation lasts a long time in most cases.

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09-03-2013, 04:46 PM #1,279
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I don't see an ice wall working on such a large scale when dealing with as high of radiation that is giving off at Fukushima! Hate to ruin someone's view of how this might be possible, but to be able to freeze such a large area of land for so long would take such a mass amount of energy and to try and freeze something that has such a high state of vibration and energy pouring from its radiating nucleus's seems almost impossible, not impossible, but close to it!

Good luck with the idea though, probably be better off getting some rad bots that can run off the radiation already in the zone to run around fixing stuff could be a viable option???
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09-04-2013, 04:05 AM #1,280
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And it was good for the ratings

Jim Stone, September 2 2013
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Many of you have seen this "boiling ocean" at Fukushima photo by now, and it's a load of B.S. Natual News pulled this photo but it remains posted elsewhere in their name.
This actually angered me because I have no doubt this latest round of Fukushima fear mongering is explicitly to offset my latest round of Fukushima facts.

Let's go over some Fukushima FACTS.
The first thing to go over is the fact that if that fog was as advertised it would be there all day every day. You can't just switch on a nuclear disaster fog show and then turn it off. If the fog was in any way from the nuclear disaster, it would have to come from the reactors themselves and not the ocean, which is too far removed from the reactors to be heated by them absent functioning heat removal systems (which do not exist anymore) and then, any fog would be right at the heat exchangers because the ocean itself is too massive to heat up with a few billion watts. Even river based heat exchangers at places like Browns Ferry, (fukushima equivalents) rarely if ever kick up a fog. The photo is bogus, showing only natural fog which happens a lot in Japan.

Let's go over some Fukushima facts which HAVE TO BE HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC for Israel to avoid the death sentence outrage the truth would cause if people knew it.


1. Reactor 3's core was expelled.

This is easily proven by the blast photo to the left. The color of the blast matches the color of the reactor fuel. Since the entire facility was made out of white concrete, if that was concrete dust it would be white. The only place in the entire facility that had material the same color as the explosion was the reactor core. This means reactor 3's guts were blown out.
This so vastly exceeds the worst case disaster scenario parroted by the followers of nuclear liar Arnie Gundersen that anything stated since this blast about how bad things are, while denying this happened to begin with amounts to a propaganda comedy show. Fukushima not only surpasses Chernobyl, it makes Chernobyl look like an adventure park because the size of the reactors out at Fukushima are far beyond Chernobyl by a factor of approximately 20X. Chernobyl was childs play by comparison.

But it is Arnie's responsibility I guess to tell people a scenario which is plausible in a real nuclear disaster possible with the types of reactors out at Fuku, which could never explode the way Chernobyl did. The fact that reactor 3 had it's core expelled proves beyond any doubt that something else blew it up, it was not a nuclear failure that caused this



My big question is: Why did Natural News report the truth at first, only to subsequently take the topic down a rat hole?

2. Reactor 4 was similarly blown to smithereens when it had no core at all

This one is a no brainer folks. Reactor 4 had no core when it exploded,, and this is not only documented by witnesses out at Fukushima, Tepco's official records which have been proven accurate, and the report from the International Nuclear Regulatory Commission. This was also proven from the drone photos, which clearly show Reactor 4 correctly dis assembled for maintenance, with the core removed. Thanks to the blast, the truth was blown wide open - reactor 4 is the exact equivalent of building 7 on 9/11 - it could not have possibly been blown up absent a little assistance, delivered by Mossad front Israeli "security firm" Magna BSP.

3. Other nuclear facilities have been rigged with explosives

Sweden is now sitting on an Israeli nuclear threat. Someone managed to breach security at their largest nuclear facility and rig it with at least a full pallet of plastic explosives, and probably rigged it with more than a pallet. The fact that this was never made mainstream in the ziopress is intrinsic proof that the Israelis did this. And even the "alternative" media has avoided the topic of Sweden facing a Fukushima scenario like the plague, I have NEVER seen this reported anywhere else and I would like to know why. Perhaps because they don't think a news outlet in Michigan is accurate enough, while quoting an AP report? True, even the folks in Michigan downplayed this, butYou cannot get a fist sized lump of plastic explosive without grabbing it from a larger batch, and the fact this was found in a forklift says it all. For the original report on this topic CLICK HERE
4. People died from radiation poisoning after reactor 3's core expulsion

But since this cannot be explained away by the mythical hydrogen blasts, Arnie won't say it. Ok, I 'll cut him some slack. Since he decided to profit from this issue from day one, and is as stupid as a box of rocks, he was going on the official story which talked about a whole lot of nothing and exaggerated it, and since he had his head in a hole in the ground he missed the real news - that people died out in the open at Fukushima after reactor 3 got it's core expelled. Good miss for a nuclear "expert". Now he can't live up to the fact or back track without people asking the obvious - HOW THE HELL DID HE MISS THE REAL NEWS ABOUT PEOPLE DYING all the while his illustrious ENE news yaks about a trio of "non lethal" partial melt downs?
5. The ongoing threat of Stuxnet, which destroyed reactors 1 and 2 remains an enormous issue

Stuxnet was originally likely written by Darpa and the CIA (not the NSA which does not deal with developing aggressive systems) for the purpose of destroying Iran's nuclear program. And it was specifically written to ONLY DESTROY NATANZ. It was then handed by some truthful idiots to the Israeli Defense Forces with their promise that they would do no re-programming to affect other systems. And the Israelis are truthfully even more stupid than the idiots who trusted them.
They sat down with Stuxnet and removed all the security features that prevented it from affecting more than Natanz. They then turned it into a regular virus that could spread via typical routes of infection. They also removed the safety features - the identifiers that allowed it to know if it was in Natanz or not. And then they let it go into the wild. I have no doubt Magna BSP hand delivered it to the Scada controllers inside Fukushima, laying in wait to affect the safety systems, but additionally it is now out in the wild and infecting every industrial system it comes in contact with. And it is now more than just a resident virus, it can also phone home and tell the Israelis what systems it has now infected, and await instructions for what to do. That works great for false flag industrial disasters

6. The seismographic evidence does not support a 9.0 earthquake, or anything near that magnitude thus proving the tsunami had to have been caused by nuclear weapons

It was hilarious when I discovered USGS seismologist Erol Kalkan's assessment of the Fukushima quake, (click to enlarge it) which showed 12.9G ground accelerations at station MYG004, which was 70 KM inland in Japan. Had that happened, Japan would have spawned a new mountain range. And he did it based upon seismograms that showed a peak richter intensity of 6.67. He just did what he was told I guess. And what was even more funny in a scientific sense is the fact that none of the stations at the shore, closest to the "epicenter" were used by good ol EROL because their readings were in the low Richter 5's.
I managed to get the seismograms Erol based his charts upon after days of calling and digging, and they blew his scam right open. Though a 9.0 was stated to have happened out in the ocean by the scamming ziopress, the real peak intensity was 6.67 inland at station MYG004 and NOT out in the ocean, thus proving the entire 9.0 story to be a bold faced lie. This was part of the original Fuku report, (click to enlarge it) On the ground in Japan, the evidence of Erol's forgery is everywhere. Highway overpasses that have been built to survive major quakes will fail with ground accelerations below 1 G yet none are damaged at all. Even the best built structures - the earthquake resistant skyscrapers will fail with ground accelerations below 1 G and in all of Sendai there were zero collapsed and zero leaning. Yet Erol reported 12.9 G's and the only thing that fell near that epicenter was an old welfare shelter. YEP, about what would happen in Japan with a 0.3G 6.67. Don't expect much else to fall.

Bottom line? I can show you the seismograms, which prove the quake was minor. Kalkan, spokesman for the USGS states himself the worst of the quake happened inland at station MYG004, and NOT out in the ocean which means the worst would have happened inland. CAN THE LIARS OUT THERE SHOW ME THE QUAKE DAMAGE THAT SHOWS IT WAS MAJOR? I am not talking tsunami damage which can be caused by nuclear weapons at the bottom of the ocean, I am talking REAL QUAKE DAMAGE OUTSIDE THE TSUNAMI ZONE, like what happened at Kobe? A little advice. GIVE UP. Beyond a 6.6 the quake DID NOT HAPPEN. And that 6.6 was 30 KM away from the nearest major city, Sendai, even according to the USGS once the lies are deciphered, which is why that 6.6 only destroyed a welfare shelter when the similar Kobe quake destroyed a whole lot more.

I have a little challenge for the Fuku scammers out there - If you want to refute what is on this web site, do it with official record.

I am not talking the lies in the ziopress or whatever fear porn someone has pumped up. I am asking you to dig deep and actually produce the hard to find stuff that proves your point. Do it with photographs that prove a 9.0. Do it with the real seismograms. Do it with a real explanation of the reactor systems, which shows all the safety valves that failed, all the passive cooling systems which require no electricity at all to function that you never mention, and THEN EXPLAIN HOW THE EARTHQUAKE COULD HAVE DESTROYED THE PIPES AT FUKUSHIMA, WHEN THE REACTOR SYSTEMS ALL WENT UP TO 3000 PSI, WHICH COULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IF THE QUAKE DAMAGED ANYTHING AT ALL. If a quake had damaged Fukushima all affected systems would have had a pressure of ZERO while things melted down. BROKEN PIPES DESTROYED BY EARTHQUAKES EQUAL ZERO PRESSURE. How can the scammers out there count on the public being so stupid about this?
A call to concience: To everyone out there lying about Fukushima - WHAT ARE YOU WISHING FOR?

Are you hoping more nuclear facilities get destroyed by the Israelis because you think they are wise about it? Can you escape to zion? Do you really want to continue hiding the reality of Stuxnet and explosive laden nuclear facilities just to allow the zionists a venue of public ignorance to use in the next assault? Are you complicit in their crimes, or are you just stupid?
I know nuclear is a complex topic, but when it has been handed to you on a silver platter all cut up into bite sized pieces like what you can find on this site, which happens to be a major one, ignorance cannot be excused. And if you are the type that is too mechanically illiterate to change your own oil JUST LOOK AT REACTOR 4 AND EXPLAIN HOW THAT BLEW UP WHEN EVERYONE, EVEN THE INRC SAID IT WAS DIS ASSEMBLED AND THE DRONE PHOTOS PROVE IT?.

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09-04-2013, 04:40 PM #1,281
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http://www.world-nuclear.org/Features/Fu...s-Reality/



Are we feeding fear here?

...and

Quote:"I'm afraid that it is unavoidable to dump or release the water into the sea" after it is purified to levels recognised as safe under international standards, Tanaka told a news conference.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia...99178.html
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09-07-2013, 11:38 PM #1,282
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Tokyo to host 2020 summer Olympics

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has announced that Tokyo will host the 2020 summer Olympic Games. The Japanese capital has been competing with Istanbul after Madrid was eliminated in the opening round of IOC voting in Buenos Aires on Saturday.

http://rt.com/news/line/2013-09-07/#50714

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09-08-2013, 02:04 AM #1,283
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(09-04-2013, 04:40 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  http://www.world-nuclear.org/Features/Fu...s-Reality/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ncm8KwxWNg#t=704

Are we feeding fear here?

...and

Quote:"I'm afraid that it is unavoidable to dump or release the water into the sea" after it is purified to levels recognised as safe under international standards, Tanaka told a news conference.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia...99178.html

This type of excuse irritates me no end.

Chemicals can be diluted, but nuclear reactions are not affected by dilution. Chemicals typically have a "one-and-done" reaction which means each molecule can have one chemical reaction.

But nuclear reactions can happen from the same atom a billion or even trillions of times or more. The controlling factor is the half-life of the isotope - NOT how diluted it is.

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09-08-2013, 05:44 PM #1,284
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When scientists compare cesium radioactive isotopes to naturally occurring potassium radioactive isotopes in seawater, if I am understanding this correctly, the resulting reactions are the same, however cesium's radioactivity will continue for 30 years...I suppose diminishing with each successive year.

As well, taking into account existing radioactive isotopes in seawater from past nuclear testing, etc., it would seem there will and always will be man-made plus naturally occurring radioactive isotopes in oceans.

I'm supposing this is why there is little fuss being kicked up about this.

http://www2.hawaii.edu/~kamenik/radioces...water.html
09-08-2013, 09:05 PM #1,285
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(09-08-2013, 05:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  When scientists compare cesium radioactive isotopes to naturally occurring potassium radioactive isotopes in seawater, if I am understanding this correctly, the resulting reactions are the same, however cesium's radioactivity will continue for 30 years...I suppose diminishing with each successive year.

As well, taking into account existing radioactive isotopes in seawater from past nuclear testing, etc., it would seem there will and always will be man-made plus naturally occurring radioactive isotopes in oceans.

I'm supposing this is why there is little fuss being kicked up about this.

http://www2.hawaii.edu/~kamenik/radioces...water.html

Yes, the apologists like to falsely compare potassium-40
to Cesium-137. I call it "The Banana Lie." Man made
cesium-137 is about 10 million times more deadly than
naturally occurring potassium-40 found in bananas
and other fruit.

In the highly educational video below, I've set the start
time at 2:10 which introduces the banana lie at about
the 3 minute mark. Starting at 2:10 you'll hear the speaker
dismiss the dilution lie as well.

The entire video is worth watching as it is jam packed
with vital information that could help anyone who watches
it have a far greater understanding of radiation.




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09-09-2013, 02:17 AM #1,286
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All I can say Beyond, is the scientists really don't know what's what.
09-09-2013, 08:49 AM #1,287
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(08-31-2013, 02:15 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(08-16-2013, 01:23 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(08-13-2013, 02:56 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  The earths oceans are all connected into one immense body of water and theres 36,614,237,300,000,000,000,000 gallons of ocean water (thirty six billion trillion gallons of ocean water) (one trillion gallons thirty six billion times) constantly diluting and dissipating and chemically altering whatever (comparatively miniscule to the point of almost complete and utter meaninglessness) radioactive tonnage thats being released daily and all that incomprehensibly vast amount of flowing and circulating ocean water is rendering the microscopic in comparison amount of 75,000 gallons of radioactive water released into it daily as absolutely inconsequential and as I mentioned theres probably 10,000 times that amount of radioactivity pouring down from the sun and into the ocean every second of every day and night...


There are multiple fallacies in your line of thinking, but I only have time to address one at the moment.

Radioactivity unlike most chemical reactions don't have a "one and done" actiivity process. If you get exposed to chlorine, for instance, any harmful reactions it causes are limited to you. Each molecule finds a target and that's it.

But radiation is the gift that keeps on giving. If I get exposed to a high level or radiation, and then you come in contact with me, you are also at risk of getting injured by the same radioactive energy.

The same molecule can harm a nearly limitless number of people and animals.

I might come back and expose the rest later. But this is enough on its own to shoot down the dilution argument.
Take an eye dropper of radioactive water...

One drop of water...

Lets color it red for better visual effect...

Split that drop in half...

Split it in half again...

And split it in half again and again and again and again and again and again...

Split it in half again...

And again and again and again and again and again and again...

Now drop that microscopic drip into an olympic sized swimming pool filled with water...

Thats just about an accurate ratio comparison to the size of earths oceans and the amount of radioactive water leaking out of fukushima...

Whats it gonna do?

Nothing...

Whos it gonna harm?

No one...

And theres thousands of times that amount of radioactivity pouring down from the sun and into that olympic sized swimming pool full of water every moment of every day...

And that fact is brushed aside and ignored...

Because its not negatively effecting anything and anyone...

Theres no fear and paranoia to spread about that...

Doggone it, this has been explained to you before. You're comparing chemical reactions to nuclear reactions which is a big no no.

One chemical compound can generally have one reaction with a compound in the body unless it is a catalyst. We are talking about how the electrons of the atom get mixed in with the electrons of another atom.

But NUCLEAR reactions are totally DIFFERENT!! A single radioactive atom can have billions of disintegrations with each disintegration being just as dangerous as the previous one.

It damages a cell and keeps on going. The radiation doesn't cause a chemical change, but a change in the physical structure of the targeted compound. That change of structure changes its function.

Watch this video to get a sense of what happens. It's low tech, but it's brilliant. He talks radiation treatments for cancer but the concept is identical.




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09-10-2013, 04:01 PM #1,288
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(09-09-2013, 02:17 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  All I can say Beyond, is the scientists really don't know what's what.

Yet...but, they are working on it.

http://www.conservation.org/global/marin...index.aspx

Quote:The planned measures are daunting. Freezing earth to block water flows is a technology commonly used in digging subway tunnels, but is untested on the Fukushima scale and the planned duration of years or decades. Furthermore, some engineers say this plan will cause water to pool under the damaged plant, further destabilizing the ground around the reactors and spent-fuel pools. The decontamination technology has repeatedly suffered from glitches.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/20...leaks.html

sad2.gif I guess all anyone can do now and continually in the future is damage control.
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09-11-2013, 03:16 AM #1,289
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09-16-2013, 09:58 PM #1,290
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Quote:According to the spokesman, one litre of the water contained up to 24 becquerels of strontium and other radioactive materials -- below the 30 becquerel per litre safety limit imposed by Japanese authorities for a possible release to the environment.

However, it was unknown how much water was released to sea under the "emergency measure," Koshimizu said.

What's a little more or less into the sea at this point, huh? damned.gif



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