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12-21-2013, 06:07 AM #31
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
link didn't work cause I copied a shortened version

from another post of mine,,,

this link will work,,,

DECEMBER 11, 2013 AT 9:04 AM

http://washingtonexaminer.com/oregon-sig...le/2540529

there,,,articles are dec 9 and 11,,,

not old,,,and December numbers are not out until Jan.

and you don't know what they are,,,

and neither does anyone else right now,,,

made up stuff doesn't count...

(:X
12-21-2013, 06:23 AM #32
Not Sure Member
Posts:28 Threads:4 Joined:Dec 2012
(12-21-2013, 05:48 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  ObamaCare forcing people into Medicaid

One woman’s demoralizing experience with the ObamaCare website, which her daughter documented in an article this week in The Wall Street Journal, is shining a light on how the health care law is forcing people into Medicaid even if they don’t want it.

After having had her insurance canceled this fall like so many millions of Americans, her mother Charlene sought a new insurance policy on HeathCare.gov. But it gave her only one choice – Medicaid - which is the government's traditional safety net to cover the uninsured poor.

Charlene Hopkins does not see herself as poor and resents having to stoop to what she believes is a taxpayer funded hand-out, when she prides herself on a life of independence and self-sufficiency.



The father owns a $5 million house - entirely paid for. His kids attend expensive private schools. He owns three cars, but because he has earned his fortune and has stopped working , and his wife's new start-up business has yet to produce an income stream, he is considered by the Healthcare.gov website to have no income.

The website put him on Medicaid. He protested in the website's chat area. A screen grab of the dialogue reads: "Let 60 minutes show up in front of my 5 million dollars paid for house and tell America that this guy is on {Medicade} and that the American people are paying {fro} it!"

A navigator replied, "I do understand your frustration, however I have no other options to offer."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/...-medicaid/

(:X


They'll fix it and make some sort of temporary exception for people in this unfortunatechuckle.gif situation.

Why don't they just sign up for medicaid if their immediate need is so great while they wait on the appeal process or for them to fix it? ...then just change plans to a subsidized one? I don't see what the big deal is... people must just be retarded. Can't medicaid be dropped later? I don't think it's something they are stuck with...
12-21-2013, 06:40 AM #33
Not Sure Member
Posts:28 Threads:4 Joined:Dec 2012
(12-21-2013, 06:07 AM)Softy Wrote:  link didn't work cause I copied a shortened version

from another post of mine,,,

this link will work,,,

DECEMBER 11, 2013 AT 9:04 AM

http://washingtonexaminer.com/oregon-sig...le/2540529

there,,,articles are dec 9 and 11,,,

not old,,,and December numbers are not out until Jan.

and you don't know what they are,,,

and neither does anyone else right now,,,

made up stuff doesn't count...

(:X

...the enrollment numbers quoted is from a severely malfunctioning site before things were patched.

Though the site has vastly improved since then and the Obama administration's numbers tell only part of Oregon's enrollment story, the HHS report said just 44 residents signed up for private insurance through Cover Oregon from Oct. 1 to Nov. 30.

Humorous but meaningless now. Find the current Dec enrollment numbers...

NM

He pointed to the state's own tally, which shows 9,949 people had enrolled as of Tuesday — 9,219 in Medicaid and 730 in private plans. That means 686 people have enrolled in private plans they learned about on Cover Oregon so far this month.

"We're getting more every day," he said in an interview. "Those commercial enrollments are going to catch up."

Oregon has a separate process for signing people up for Medicaid, the federal-state insurance program for low-income people and the disabled that was expanded under the Affordable Care Act.

Using a "fast-track" process, under which pre-screened residents can sign up without having to visit the Cover Oregon site, the state has enrolled 90,000 residents in the Oregon Health Plan, the state's Medicaid program, according to Judy Mohr Peterson, Medicaid director at the Oregon Health Authority.


...so what the most current numbers show is that nearly 10,000 people signed up in the first week and a half ...and here we are over a week later with them saying enrollment was increasing.coffeetime.gif
12-21-2013, 06:47 AM #34
Not Sure Member
Posts:28 Threads:4 Joined:Dec 2012
(12-21-2013, 06:07 AM)Softy Wrote:  December numbers are not out until Jan.

and you don't know what they are,,,

and neither does anyone else right now,,,

bored.gif

...and
(12-21-2013, 02:27 AM)Not Sure Wrote:  4 hrs ago:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013...-coverage/
A new report by The Commonwealth Fund says enrollment in Obamacare’s insurance exchanges has reached at least a half million people,

...so we are up to almost 1.35mil including medicaid expansion enrollees ...5mil more would qualify in red states that refused to expand medicaid that would have raised that number significantly higher.
12-21-2013, 07:01 AM #35
Not Sure Member
Posts:28 Threads:4 Joined:Dec 2012
oops, I thought that was from your link.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/polit...s/3992583/
12-21-2013, 07:08 AM #36
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
Posts:4,764 Threads:1,046 Joined:Jun 2012
(12-21-2013, 03:17 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 03:06 AM)Not Sure Wrote:  More realistic target number:

The Obama administration boldly vowed to hit its ambitious target of enrolling 7 million through the Obamacare health exchanges, despite new sign-up numbers that show it has a very long way to go to meet this goal...

...It's also far off the pace needed to reach the 7 million total that officials had predicted would be signed up via federal- or state-run insurance marketplaces by the March 31 enrollment deadline for nearly all Americans to have some kind of health coverage or face a tax penalty.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101262522

In light of the botched rollout they still stand by this number.

...But when asked by a reporter whether officials had revised their projections in light of lower-than-expected enrollments to date, a top Obamacare administrator instead boldly doubled-down on the original estimate.

So... if you want to be even more realistic then we are probably looking at a more conservative estimate of 5.5-6mil by march 31st ...and again this target was likely calculated before they knew every single republican state(with one exception if i remember correctly) was going to deny expanded medicaid to low income families/individuals. One could assume based on current new medicaid signups (803,000) in states that did expand ...that this number would have amounted to at least another million out of the 5mil(who would have qualified)...by march31st.

Have these people made payment or just signed up?

They wont be covered until they make their first payment so just signing up does not mean they will have coverage jan 1st
12-21-2013, 07:44 AM #37
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-21-2013, 06:23 AM)Not Sure Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 05:48 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  ObamaCare forcing people into Medicaid

One woman’s demoralizing experience with the ObamaCare website, which her daughter documented in an article this week in The Wall Street Journal, is shining a light on how the health care law is forcing people into Medicaid even if they don’t want it.

After having had her insurance canceled this fall like so many millions of Americans, her mother Charlene sought a new insurance policy on HeathCare.gov. But it gave her only one choice – Medicaid - which is the government's traditional safety net to cover the uninsured poor.

Charlene Hopkins does not see herself as poor and resents having to stoop to what she believes is a taxpayer funded hand-out, when she prides herself on a life of independence and self-sufficiency.



The father owns a $5 million house - entirely paid for. His kids attend expensive private schools. He owns three cars, but because he has earned his fortune and has stopped working , and his wife's new start-up business has yet to produce an income stream, he is considered by the Healthcare.gov website to have no income.

The website put him on Medicaid. He protested in the website's chat area. A screen grab of the dialogue reads: "Let 60 minutes show up in front of my 5 million dollars paid for house and tell America that this guy is on {Medicade} and that the American people are paying {fro} it!"

A navigator replied, "I do understand your frustration, however I have no other options to offer."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/...-medicaid/

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They'll fix it and make some sort of temporary exception for people in this unfortunatechuckle.gif situation.

Why don't they just sign up for medicaid if their immediate need is so great while they wait on the appeal process or for them to fix it? ...then just change plans to a subsidized one? I don't see what the big deal is... people must just be retarded. Can't medicaid be dropped later? I don't think it's something they are stuck with...

they'll fix it,,,they'll fix it,,,thought it was fixed???,,,

supposed to be fixed nov 1,,,according to the king,,,

you say the 44 people in nov was before it was fixed,,,

it was supposed to be fixed,,,guess what,,,it still ain't fixed,,,

stupid calculator doesn't work,,,how hard is it to make the

stupid calculator work,,,637 million dollars and the

stupid calculator doesn't work,,,if that guy with the 5 million dollar house,,,

three cars,,,etc.,,,signs up for medicaid,,,and needs long term care,,,

bye bye house,,,bye bye cars,,,bye bye everything,,,that's the rules...

(:X
12-21-2013, 07:54 AM #38
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-21-2013, 06:47 AM)Not Sure Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 06:07 AM)Softy Wrote:  December numbers are not out until Jan.

and you don't know what they are,,,

and neither does anyone else right now,,,

bored.gif

...and
(12-21-2013, 02:27 AM)Not Sure Wrote:  4 hrs ago:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013...-coverage/
A new report by The Commonwealth Fund says enrollment in Obamacare’s insurance exchanges has reached at least a half million people,

...so we are up to almost 1.35mil including medicaid expansion enrollees ...5mil more would qualify in red states that refused to expand medicaid that would have raised that number significantly higher.

CMS releases enrollment numbers the next month,,,

everytime someone asks them how many have signed up,,,

that is what they say,,,not sure who The Commonwealth Fund is...

google,,,The Commonwealth Fund is a private foundation working toward a high

performance health system,,,so,,,private foundation,,,they are making

up pretend numbers,,,but even if right,,,4 million had policies canceled,,,

so,,,millions in Jan who don't have insurance,,,who did have policies,,,

so going to be interesting,,,especially all the folks who get hurt by this,,,

and just cause the king said retroactive coverage,,,doesn't mean doctors

or anyone is going to accept these people...

(:X
12-21-2013, 08:05 AM #39
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-21-2013, 05:58 AM)Not Sure Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 05:31 AM)Softy Wrote:  Oh I know it is a part of Obamacare,,,

it all is,,,except for purely private policies,,,

my point is that the medicaid numbers are not part

of the what I will call "regular Obamacare",,,meaning

the part that is not medicaid related,,,these enrollment

numbers taken separately are much much smaller,,,

the enrollment numbers are being quoted including the

medicaid parts to make the "program" look better...

so,,,how about the 44 people in Oregon,,,got anything

different on that???...

(:X



...and quit digging up articles with old numbers where they are acting like that matters now! THAT WAS BEFORE THE WEBSITES WERE FIXED!! (and your link doesn't even work)

...now that I am digging I think I am wrong and you can sign up for medicaid under the poverty line through the website.

you are right,,,you are wrong,,,

and give me a date when the website was fixed,,,

so I don't quote numbers before it was fixed,,,

WHEN WAS IT FIXED???,,,GIVE A DATE!!!...

(:X
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
12-22-2013, 01:34 AM #40
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-21-2013, 08:05 AM)Softy Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 05:58 AM)Not Sure Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 05:31 AM)Softy Wrote:  Oh I know it is a part of Obamacare,,,

it all is,,,except for purely private policies,,,

my point is that the medicaid numbers are not part

of the what I will call "regular Obamacare",,,meaning

the part that is not medicaid related,,,these enrollment

numbers taken separately are much much smaller,,,

the enrollment numbers are being quoted including the

medicaid parts to make the "program" look better...

so,,,how about the 44 people in Oregon,,,got anything

different on that???...

(:X



...and quit digging up articles with old numbers where they are acting like that matters now! THAT WAS BEFORE THE WEBSITES WERE FIXED!! (and your link doesn't even work)

...now that I am digging I think I am wrong and you can sign up for medicaid under the poverty line through the website.

you are right,,,you are wrong,,,

and give me a date when the website was fixed,,,

so I don't quote numbers before it was fixed,,,

WHEN WAS IT FIXED???,,,GIVE A DATE!!!...

(:X
Saturday, November 30, 2013, 3:07 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...-1.1533331
12-22-2013, 02:04 AM #41
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
Posts:4,764 Threads:1,046 Joined:Jun 2012
(12-22-2013, 01:34 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 08:05 AM)Softy Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 05:58 AM)Not Sure Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 05:31 AM)Softy Wrote:  Oh I know it is a part of Obamacare,,,

it all is,,,except for purely private policies,,,

my point is that the medicaid numbers are not part

of the what I will call "regular Obamacare",,,meaning

the part that is not medicaid related,,,these enrollment

numbers taken separately are much much smaller,,,

the enrollment numbers are being quoted including the

medicaid parts to make the "program" look better...

so,,,how about the 44 people in Oregon,,,got anything

different on that???...

(:X



...and quit digging up articles with old numbers where they are acting like that matters now! THAT WAS BEFORE THE WEBSITES WERE FIXED!! (and your link doesn't even work)

...now that I am digging I think I am wrong and you can sign up for medicaid under the poverty line through the website.

you are right,,,you are wrong,,,

and give me a date when the website was fixed,,,

so I don't quote numbers before it was fixed,,,

WHEN WAS IT FIXED???,,,GIVE A DATE!!!...

(:X
Saturday, November 30, 2013, 3:07 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...-1.1533331

It still crashes plus its full of incorrect data.
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
12-22-2013, 02:22 AM #42
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-22-2013, 02:04 AM)CuckooKill Wrote:  
(12-22-2013, 01:34 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 08:05 AM)Softy Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 05:58 AM)Not Sure Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 05:31 AM)Softy Wrote:  Oh I know it is a part of Obamacare,,,

it all is,,,except for purely private policies,,,

my point is that the medicaid numbers are not part

of the what I will call "regular Obamacare",,,meaning

the part that is not medicaid related,,,these enrollment

numbers taken separately are much much smaller,,,

the enrollment numbers are being quoted including the

medicaid parts to make the "program" look better...

so,,,how about the 44 people in Oregon,,,got anything

different on that???...

(:X



...and quit digging up articles with old numbers where they are acting like that matters now! THAT WAS BEFORE THE WEBSITES WERE FIXED!! (and your link doesn't even work)

...now that I am digging I think I am wrong and you can sign up for medicaid under the poverty line through the website.

you are right,,,you are wrong,,,

and give me a date when the website was fixed,,,

so I don't quote numbers before it was fixed,,,

WHEN WAS IT FIXED???,,,GIVE A DATE!!!...

(:X
Saturday, November 30, 2013, 3:07 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...-1.1533331

It still crashes plus its full of incorrect data.

link or stfu
12-22-2013, 02:33 AM #43
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
Posts:4,764 Threads:1,046 Joined:Jun 2012
(12-22-2013, 02:22 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-22-2013, 02:04 AM)CuckooKill Wrote:  
(12-22-2013, 01:34 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 08:05 AM)Softy Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 05:58 AM)Not Sure Wrote:  ...and quit digging up articles with old numbers where they are acting like that matters now! THAT WAS BEFORE THE WEBSITES WERE FIXED!! (and your link doesn't even work)

...now that I am digging I think I am wrong and you can sign up for medicaid under the poverty line through the website.

you are right,,,you are wrong,,,

and give me a date when the website was fixed,,,

so I don't quote numbers before it was fixed,,,

WHEN WAS IT FIXED???,,,GIVE A DATE!!!...

(:X
Saturday, November 30, 2013, 3:07 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...-1.1533331

It still crashes plus its full of incorrect data.

link or stfu

From huff n blow post. They're trying to spin the fact the site sucks chuckle.gif

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larissa-zi...79217.html
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
12-22-2013, 03:30 AM #44
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-22-2013, 02:33 AM)CuckooKill Wrote:  
(12-22-2013, 02:22 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-22-2013, 02:04 AM)CuckooKill Wrote:  
(12-22-2013, 01:34 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 08:05 AM)Softy Wrote:  you are right,,,you are wrong,,,

and give me a date when the website was fixed,,,

so I don't quote numbers before it was fixed,,,

WHEN WAS IT FIXED???,,,GIVE A DATE!!!...

(:X
Saturday, November 30, 2013, 3:07 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...-1.1533331

It still crashes plus its full of incorrect data.

link or stfu

From huff n blow post. They're trying to spin the fact the site sucks chuckle.gif

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larissa-zi...79217.html
Where does it state those are still ongoing problems?

The website is broken. It's difficult. It has bugs. It crashes. It's full of incorrect data. There are endless reports of a URL that is failing the country, but does anyone really know what it's like to be an active participant in the new healthcare exchange?

This is a retroactive statement about how it WAS! Further indicated by the guys own admission at the bottom ...where he also mentions how much cheaper it is.

In the end the website, though spare in information, worked just fine. I guessed at my 2014 income, and I received a tax credit. My new plan will cost $286 a month--significantly cheaper than my current plan.

Find something current stating the site is still crashing that isn't from just a few days after the patch while they were still fine tuning the changes.
12-22-2013, 03:31 AM #45
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
(12-22-2013, 02:22 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-22-2013, 02:04 AM)CuckooKill Wrote:  
(12-22-2013, 01:34 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 08:05 AM)Softy Wrote:  
(12-21-2013, 05:58 AM)Not Sure Wrote:  ...and quit digging up articles with old numbers where they are acting like that matters now! THAT WAS BEFORE THE WEBSITES WERE FIXED!! (and your link doesn't even work)

...now that I am digging I think I am wrong and you can sign up for medicaid under the poverty line through the website.

you are right,,,you are wrong,,,

and give me a date when the website was fixed,,,

so I don't quote numbers before it was fixed,,,

WHEN WAS IT FIXED???,,,GIVE A DATE!!!...

(:X
Saturday, November 30, 2013, 3:07 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...-1.1533331

It still crashes plus its full of incorrect data.

link or stfu

thanks for the date,,,so,,,no enrollment matters before that date,,,

according to you,,,and there are no confirmed numbers after that date,,,

all made up guesses,,,and yeah,,,calculator still doesn't work,,,

and I gave links,,,and it crashes,,,

Obamacare Website Crashes For The 4,294,525th Time… | Weasel ...
weaselzippers.us/2013/.../20/obamacare-website-crashes-for-the-429452...‎
Obamacare Website Crashes For The 4,294,525th Time… As of 12:05 pm EST: Share this: ZIP | December 20, 2013 12:11 pm ...

Two Hours Before Obama Presser, ObamaCare Site Crashes
http://www.breitbart.com/Big.../2013/12/...gov-crashe...‎
by John Nolte 20 Dec 2013 post a comment ... deadline -- which is just a couple days away -- the federal ObamaCare Website crashed (see screencap above).

Obama sticks up for Obamacare as website CRASHES minutes ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Obama-sti...ASHES-minu...
PUBLISHED: 14:32 EST, 20 December 2013 | UPDATED: 17:40 EST, 20 December 2013 ... Guess what, folks--the ObamaCare website just went down again.

Obama to Address Nation – Obamacare Website Crashes | The ...
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/......n-obamacar...‎
Obama to Address Nation – Obamacare Website Crashes. Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, December 20, 2013, 1:08 PM. Barack Obama is going to address the ...

Obama to Address Nation – Obamacare Website Crashes
http://www.nothingbuttruth.com/.../97804...-obamacare...
Obama to Address Nation – Obamacare Website Crashes. December 20, 2013. |. Gateway Pundit. Print · Email ... The Obamacare website is down… Again.

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