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The Holocaust Just Got More Shocking
03-02-2013, 08:30 PM #1
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
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THIRTEEN years ago, researchers at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum began the grim task of documenting all the ghettos, slave labor sites, concentration camps and killing factories that the Nazis set up throughout Europe.

What they have found so far has shocked even scholars steeped in the history of the Holocaust.

The researchers have cataloged some 42,500 Nazi ghettos and camps throughout Europe, spanning German-controlled areas from France to Russia and Germany itself, during Hitler’s reign of brutality from 1933 to 1945.

The figure is so staggering that even fellow Holocaust scholars had to make sure they had heard it correctly when the lead researchers previewed their findings at an academic forum in late January at the German Historical Institute in Washington.

“The numbers are so much higher than what we originally thought,” Hartmut Berghoff, director of the institute, said in an interview after learning of the new data.

“We knew before how horrible life in the camps and ghettos was,” he said, “but the numbers are unbelievable.”

The documented camps include not only “killing centers” but also thousands of forced labor camps, where prisoners manufactured war supplies; prisoner-of-war camps; sites euphemistically named “care” centers, where pregnant women were forced to have abortions or their babies were killed after birth; and brothels, where women were coerced into having sex with German military personnel.

Auschwitz and a handful of other concentration camps have come to symbolize the Nazi killing machine in the public consciousness. Likewise, the Nazi system for imprisoning Jewish families in hometown ghettos has become associated with a single site — the Warsaw Ghetto, famous for the 1943 uprising. But these sites, infamous though they are, represent only a minuscule fraction of the entire German network, the new research makes painfully clear.

The maps the researchers have created to identify the camps and ghettos turn wide sections of wartime Europe into black clusters of death, torture and slavery — centered in Germany and Poland, but reaching in all directions.

The lead editors on the project, Geoffrey Megargee and Martin Dean, estimate that 15 million to 20 million people died or were imprisoned in the sites that they have identified as part of a multivolume encyclopedia. (The Holocaust museum has published the first two, with five more planned by 2025.)

more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/sunday...d=all&_r=0
03-02-2013, 08:33 PM #2
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Good find. A horrible episode in history. sad2.gif

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03-02-2013, 09:41 PM #3
bohica Member
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It has been known for decades that more than 17 million died , ( murdered), at the hands of the Nazi machine. One group was able to capitalize on it.

There's plenty of room for all God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes!
03-02-2013, 09:57 PM #4
Octo Mother Superior
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I'm shocked that scholars are shocked. I guess the horrors of war don't really strike as hard when these atrocities happen in far away countries instead of your doorstep. sad2.gif
03-02-2013, 10:33 PM #5
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Millions controlled by the few ?


Sounds like what Sen. Feistein and VP Biden are attempting at the moment .

Want to see the repeat ?

Millions of unarmed people died because they would not unite

why would they not unite ?

a Mass of them were selfish enough to worry only about themselves

and fearful enough to keep themselves from uniting with others

and stop their own death .

just as people state today : " I can't try to stop it ,,,, I have a family to worry about "

to that i reply : well go forth and multiply , when they come for you , just don't tell them my name ,,, SELFISH ğkking COWARD ! "


The mentality is the same now as then .

repeat ,,,, REPEAT,,, we want repeat !

is that how it is ?
03-02-2013, 10:36 PM #6
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history. coffeetime.gif

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03-02-2013, 10:43 PM #7
Octo Mother Superior
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(03-02-2013, 10:33 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  a Mass of them were selfish enough to worry only about themselves

and fearful enough to keep themselves from uniting with others

and stop their own death .

just as people state today : " I can't try to stop it ,,,, I have a family to worry about "


It's pretty easy to keep your mouth shut when it comes down to life or death for yourself and your family.
03-02-2013, 10:53 PM #8
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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It's a tale of fear and intimidation. It's really old as dirt techniques, they never change the MO. They make people afraid, and people stop talking.
The ones that do get "marginalized" as lunatics or some other offensive words to keep others down that would discuss it.
The more things change the more they remain the same. I see these script reading bullshitters around the forums on a regular basis. Good help is hard to find.

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03-03-2013, 01:50 AM #9
Ruby Wolf Member
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Its really is amazing and frightening how the nazis were able to coordinate so many different things within a relatively short period of time and the only way they could have accomplished them is by having millions of people simultaneously involved in orchestrating the holocaust and not just the ss and regular soldiers,but civilians from all walks of life from all over the reich,which more or less shatters the lies that so many german citizens told after the war about how they didnt know what was going on,the lying bastards...
03-03-2013, 01:54 AM #10
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
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(03-03-2013, 01:50 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Its really is amazing and frightening how the nazis were able to coordinate so many different things within a relatively short period of time and the only way they could have accomplished them is by having millions of people simultaneously involved in orchestrating the holocaust and not just the ss and regular soldiers,but civilians from all walks of life from all over the reich,which more or less shatters the lies that so many german citizens told after the war about how they didnt know what was going on,the lying bastards...


everything he did was legal or he made it legal and he was elected into power kinda like Obama
03-03-2013, 02:10 AM #11
Ruby Wolf Member
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(03-03-2013, 01:54 AM)I⊥∀NIW∩LLIʞ Wrote:  
(03-03-2013, 01:50 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Its really is amazing and frightening how the nazis were able to coordinate so many different things within a relatively short period of time and the only way they could have accomplished them is by having millions of people simultaneously involved in orchestrating the holocaust and not just the ss and regular soldiers,but civilians from all walks of life from all over the reich,which more or less shatters the lies that so many german citizens told after the war about how they didnt know what was going on,the lying bastards...


everything he did was legal or he made it legal and he was elected into power kinda like Obama

I wonder how many wrong things the united states government and its military high command is doing wrong? that they justify with greed driven denial and megalomania and nationalistic pride,like over glorified and fabricated wars and orchestrated financial oppressions ect,ect and i wonder when other countries will unite into an allied force and invade america,just like we did to nazi germany and japan and korea and vietnam and elsewhere?
03-03-2013, 02:12 AM #12
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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İmage
03-03-2013, 02:12 AM #13
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
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(03-03-2013, 02:10 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(03-03-2013, 01:54 AM)I⊥∀NIW∩LLIʞ Wrote:  
(03-03-2013, 01:50 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Its really is amazing and frightening how the nazis were able to coordinate so many different things within a relatively short period of time and the only way they could have accomplished them is by having millions of people simultaneously involved in orchestrating the holocaust and not just the ss and regular soldiers,but civilians from all walks of life from all over the reich,which more or less shatters the lies that so many german citizens told after the war about how they didnt know what was going on,the lying bastards...


everything he did was legal or he made it legal and he was elected into power kinda like Obama

I wonder how many wrong things the united states government and its military high command is doing wrong? that they justify with greed driven denial and megalomania and nationalistic pride,like over glorified and fabricated wars and orchestrated financial oppressions ect,ect and i wonder when other countries will unite into an allied force and invade america,just like we did to nazi germany and japan and korea and vietnam and elsewhere?


hopefully never



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