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09-10-2019, 04:38 PM #1
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I have been a flat earth thinker since 2015.
Before then, I was a typical sheeple, going along with the group think of earth as a spinning ball in space vacuum. A pretty fiction, thanks to Nazi scientists in Nasa, as well as sci-fi writers like Arthur C. Clarke and propagandists like Walt Disney and Stanley Kubrick.

I also figured that anyone who said the earth was flat was a sweet simpleton, or else a member of a Luddite religion that shunned modern technology.

When I saw Rothbard's thread on LOP, I looked into it because I respected his opinions on other threads. Why would RB promote this goofy idea? said I. And then I kept reading. And all my confusions over the years finally made sense. Like the Great Circle routes I had to learn about in elementary school. And the ridiculous notion of electron shells we studied in chemistry. And other science "facts" that never made a lick of sense to the cynic in me.

And then, thanks to the internet and forums, I came to understand what great literature had been telling me for lo, these many years.

The thing we call existence is the aether, which Electric Universe logically explains as a solid expanse of positive and negative electric charges. Some +++--- becomes radiation. Other dielectrons +-++-- become matter. Now that makes sense. Whereas the Atom theory is absurd.

There are no empty spaces, no such thing as nuclear bombs, since there is no atom to split or fuse. No such thing as space. Utter nonsense!! Since earth's atmosphere would whoosh away in a nanosecond if our "planet" were surrounded by a total vacuum. Do scientists not know this? Of course they do. They also know that gravity is a farce and not a force.

Another thinker who I completely failed to understand in school was George Orwell, author of 1984, the "dystopian" novel of a sick and twisted future under the rule of Big Brother.

Except that.
We have seen Orwell's vision slowly creep into our world. This is the ever-growing New World Order, under the UN and my own country as its war machine.

In my humble opinion, people have lost the few marbles they once possessed. They lost their place in nature, first of all. Our culture prizes digital devices and artificial values. Sex and violence, baby. Football and fast food. Obey. Consume. Trust Authority. Trust religions and political parties. Trust Big Brother, your government.

Ok, enough back story.
I am nothing if not wordy. My bad.
This does lead up to my topic. I promise.
But do not trust me. Don't trust anyone. Even honest people are often (almost always) wrong.

The world is flat and stationary, just like our senses tell us.

to be continued ---
09-10-2019, 04:56 PM #2
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Videos are problematic. Most people won't watch them. My bandwidth is small and I have little patience for Youtubers who do not edit their videos to the bare bones. 5 minutes should be enough time to make a point.

Anyway, I prefer memes. Photos or other graphics which illustrate an idea.

Here are a few visualizations of what our universe looks like. A multiverse would consist of layers of these planes of existence. Some scientists postulate that the world is a computer program. A few psychiatrists who hypnotize patients say that they all say the same thing -- that we are souls/spirits/entities who inhabit flesh suits throughout eternity. In other words, we participate in an experiment, or game, or whatever else for a purpose. Who knows? At any rate, we can play our part as dumb beasts or explore the thing called the life of the mind.

Here are 2 versions of where we are.

İmage

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09-11-2019, 01:26 AM #3
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OMG , what a gas bag ! blink.gif
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09-11-2019, 06:31 AM #4
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(Yesterday, 04:38 PM)grav Wrote:  I have been a flat earth thinker since 2015.
Before then, I was a typical sheeple, going along with the group think of earth as a spinning ball in space vacuum. A pretty fiction, thanks to Nazi scientists in Nasa, as well as sci-fi writers like Arthur C. Clarke and propagandists like Walt Disney and Stanley Kubrick.

I also figured that anyone who said the earth was flat was a sweet simpleton, or else a member of a Luddite religion that shunned modern technology.

When I saw Rothbard's thread on LOP, I looked into it because I respected his opinions on other threads. Why would RB promote this goofy idea? said I. And then I kept reading. And all my confusions over the years finally made sense. Like the Great Circle routes I had to learn about in elementary school. And the ridiculous notion of electron shells we studied in chemistry. And other science "facts" that never made a lick of sense to the cynic in me.

And then, thanks to the internet and forums, I came to understand what great literature had been telling me for lo, these many years.

The thing we call existence is the aether, which Electric Universe logically explains as a solid expanse of positive and negative electric charges. Some +++--- becomes radiation. Other dielectrons +-++-- become matter. Now that makes sense. Whereas the Atom theory is absurd.

There are no empty spaces, no such thing as nuclear bombs, since there is no atom to split or fuse. No such thing as space. Utter nonsense!! Since earth's atmosphere would whoosh away in a nanosecond if our "planet" were surrounded by a total vacuum. Do scientists not know this? Of course they do. They also know that gravity is a farce and not a force.

Another thinker who I completely failed to understand in school was George Orwell, author of 1984, the "dystopian" novel of a sick and twisted future under the rule of Big Brother.

Except that.
We have seen Orwell's vision slowly creep into our world. This is the ever-growing  New World Order, under the UN and my own country as its war machine.

In my humble opinion, people have lost the few marbles they once possessed. They lost their place in nature, first of all. Our culture prizes digital devices and artificial values. Sex and violence, baby. Football and fast food. Obey. Consume. Trust Authority. Trust religions and political parties. Trust Big Brother, your government.

Ok, enough back story.
I am nothing if not wordy. My bad.
This does lead up to my topic. I promise.
But do not trust me. Don't trust anyone. Even honest people are often (almost always) wrong.

The world is flat and stationary, just like our senses tell us.

to be continued ---

To be continued?

My guess is this thread will tank sooner than later just like your first one and you will come back to the anti flat earth thread and post more pictures and memes?

Seriously Grav I mean this with a good heart, please go see a psychiatrist because you need help.

Only a handful of people believe in flat earth, and that will never change.

You need to cope with that.
09-11-2019, 11:45 PM #5
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Thanks for the bumps, boys. and more lumps. meh

From George Orwell, 1984
Quote:  For a moment Winston ignored the dial. He made a violent effort to raise himself into a sitting position, and merely succeeded in wrenching his body painfully.

‘But how can you control matter?’ he burst out. ‘You don’t even control the climate or the law of gravity. And there are disease, pain, death ——’

O’Brien silenced him by a movement of his hand. ‘We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do. Invisibility, levitation — anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the laws of Nature. We make the laws of Nature.’

‘But you do not! You are not even masters of this planet. What about Eurasia and Eastasia? You have not conquered them yet.’

‘Unimportant. We shall conquer them when it suits us. And if we did not, what difference would it make? We can shut them out of existence. Oceania is the world.’

‘But the world itself is only a speck of dust. And man is tiny — helpless! How long has he been in existence? For millions of years the earth was uninhabited.’

‘Nonsense. The earth is as old as we are, no older. How could it be older? Nothing exists except through human consciousness.’

‘But the rocks are full of the bones of extinct animals — mammoths and mastodons and enormous reptiles which lived here long before man was ever heard of.’

‘Have you ever seen those bones, Winston? Of course not. Nineteenth-century biologists invented them. Before man there was nothing. After man, if he could come to an end, there would be nothing. Outside man there is nothing.’
09-11-2019, 11:55 PM #6
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More from the writer who warned us that Big Brother is watching us

İmage

Quote:But the whole universe is outside us. Look at the stars! Some of them are a million light-years away. They are out of our reach for ever.’

‘What are the stars?’ said O’Brien indifferently. ‘They are bits of fire a few kilometres away. We could reach them if we wanted to. Or we could blot them out. The earth is the centre of the universe. The sun and the stars go round it.’

Winston made another convulsive movement. This time he did not say anything. O’Brien continued as though answering a spoken objection:

‘For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what of it? Do you suppose it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you forgotten doublethink?’
09-12-2019, 04:38 AM #7
Cnut Incognito Anonymous
 
Awesome thread grav! Thanks
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09-12-2019, 11:18 AM #8
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(6 hours ago)Cnut Wrote:  Awesome thread grav! Thanks

You are pathetic Grav ! emo-daj.gif
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09-12-2019, 01:50 PM #9
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using sci-fi to prove flat earth
nice way to promote double think
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09-12-2019, 08:36 PM #10
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(Today, 03:38 AM)Cnut Wrote:  Awesome thread grav! Thanks

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Finally, another FE friend.
So far KB has been good to me. You can embed pictures easily, as well as videos.

AE is so constraining, no embeds, and most posters are there for the food fights and poo flinging :\
Even quotes are a bother to do there.

Not much traffic here. But, as you know, FE always attracts shills. Censorship? dunno. Admin is pretty forgiving so far. A couple of ordinary posters checked out the first FE thread I made. Then they went quiet. You just never know if posting changes minds. One exception is @daersoulkeeper on LOP. He fought FE with a passion for a good while. And then -- he got it! And acknowledged it. Intellectual honesty and clear thinking are rare on forums these days.
And logic.


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09-13-2019, 12:27 AM #11
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I'm still relatively sure that some barrier must exist to keep the "vacuum" of space from sucking our atmosphere away in the name of balance.
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09-13-2019, 02:34 AM #12
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(5 hours ago)grav Wrote:  
(Yesterday, 04:38 AM)Cnut Wrote:  Awesome thread grav! Thanks

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Finally, another FE friend.

Grav talking to her sock ^.


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09-13-2019, 05:42 AM #13
Cnut Incognito Anonymous
 
OK 3rd time trying to respond. For some reason I can't access this site on my PC, says proxy access temp suspended, this is the only site that does that. I'm responding on a slow mobile phone, which I can hardly see. Normally, I don't use anything but a PC with a large monitor, lol, but if this is the only way I can respond,so be it.
Now will this message post?

Peace,
Cnut
09-13-2019, 05:52 AM #14
Cnut Incognito Anonymous
 
So instead of trying to respond to any of her questions, you resort to insults and calling me a sock, gotcha great tactic. If you spend half as much time actually answering the questions as you do insulting people we might get somewhere, why in the world would you follow threads like these if you don't agree with them? It's really easy, just don't click on the threads you don't like, unless you have a hidden motive we should know about. All these pathetic insults make you all look like a bunch of half-wits. If you don't agree just move on. But I'm sure you will all keep following her like the groupies you are, and we appreciate the bump.

Peace,
Cnut
Yesterday, 12:21 AM #15
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Socks? Why would I want to fake a post? Shills and trolls do such things.
meh. It's a cop--out for not having answers to my questions.

Like the full moon.




Now can someone explain how the sun bends its light around the earth to light up the much smaller moon?

Why don't we have full moons every night if this is how it happens?



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