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The Intellect of the Sheeple Exposed for the BS it IS! VIDEO
11-11-2012, 08:16 AM #31
Octo Mother Superior
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Damn that you Tadpole? Let me fix that right away.
11-11-2012, 08:24 AM #32
Octo Mother Superior
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Ok Froggie, you're unbanned now. I also put you on the safe list to be ignored by the spam filter. Sorry about the ban.
11-11-2012, 08:28 AM #33
オタマジャクシ Member
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(11-11-2012, 08:24 AM)Octo Wrote:  Ok Froggie, you're unbanned now. I also put you on the safe list to be ignored by the spam filter. Sorry about the ban.


You're beautiful.

Thank you.
11-11-2012, 08:31 AM #34
Octo Mother Superior
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chuckle.gif Thanks and no probs. cheers.gif
11-11-2012, 08:59 AM #35
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A parting comment on the Iodine. Wikipedia says the scandal sheet I got my number from is too high, that 130 PBq were released.

So about 0.0283 kg of iodine were released (not 0.11 kg). That means that there are currently only 2 Fukushima Iodine atoms duking it out.

For the record, in the average square mile by 1 foot deep layer of dirt there are 16 metric tons of radionuclides. There is about 15 to 30 kg of U235 alone (the U234 and U238 generate 98% of the Uranium-related soil radiation). Those 16 tonnes of radionuclides equal 653.4 Gbq of radioactivity. So if you spread all the Fukushima Iodine over a 200x200 mile area the radioactivity would equal the natural background radioactivity for a day or two.

Sadly, during the week that TEPCO was fighting for control some spots in Fukushima could have been fairly hot.
11-11-2012, 03:51 PM #36
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-10-2012, 09:08 PM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  [quote='JayRodney' pid='55086' dateline='1348257916']
Quote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...O_cDCoRACg

People can be tricked into reversing their opinions on moral issues, even to the point of constructing good arguments to support the opposite of their original positions, researchers report today in PLoS ONE.

...

facepalm_panda.gif Now, go tell us how bright you are, and how Fukushima's not so bad. vic.gif Christ on a crutch, people are so ğkking stupid, easily swayed and led, no damn wonder things are a mess. gaah.gif


I am fairly bright. Fukushima isn't bad at all - they have it under control and are on their way to decommissioning the damaged portions of the facility. I don't understand the insults in the face of a factual view of the situation.


Just wondering...do you work for TEPCO or the government, by chance?
11-11-2012, 05:36 PM #37
オタマジャクシ Member
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I took nucleonics in college so I can calculate critical mass, know the uses of materials like boron and beryllium, can calculate radiation levels and doses, and know what half-life means.

When I started looking at conspiracy sites I kept getting referred to ENENews. I would look at the articles and go "gee that's awful". Then I realized that the numbers were too bad to be true and started doing the math. I realized the first article was a lie. I checked a second article, that was wrong too. After the 10th consecutive article that was off by 10 to 100 times or more I blocked ENENews so I wouldn't be mislead by BS (those bad numbers stick in your head).

The problem with the antinuclear lobby is they don't believe lying for the sake of a greater truth is wrong. The antinuclear lobby doesn't understand that lying about the danger is forcing their priorities down other people's throats and denying other people the right to make an informed decision. The antinuclear lobby doesn't realize/believe that if you have to lie to make a point, you aren't making a point, you are just lying. The moment they inflate the danger to get people's attention, they lose my attention.

Cost/benefit choices have to be made and they have to be made based on correct information.

I'm actually more of an IT guy although I have done digital hardware design and some light analog design and a couple of solar systems. Never worked for the government directly.

No association with TEPCO but I had to look at Japanese articles to get real facts and am slowly picking up a little Japanese.
11-11-2012, 06:14 PM #38
Octo Mother Superior
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It's important to have correct information when you make decisions or evaluate any situation. I think the problem is; what is correct information? How can we tell for sure? We can't. But it's a good thing you are able to do the math from the information available, although we can't be sure that information is accurate.

How very cool you're learning Japanese! That can't be too easy damned.gif Is it a logical language? That would make it easier to learn for sure.
11-12-2012, 03:13 AM #39
オタマジャクシ Member
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(11-11-2012, 06:14 PM)Octo Wrote:  It's important to have correct information when you make decisions or evaluate any situation. I think the problem is; what is correct information? How can we tell for sure? We can't. But it's a good thing you are able to do the math from the information available, although we can't be sure that information is accurate.

How very cool you're learning Japanese! That can't be too easy damned.gif Is it a logical language? That would make it easier to learn for sure.



It's not tonal (like Chinese) it's phonetic which helps. But you have romaji (the latinized version), hiragana, katakana and Kanji to deal with. Romaji only gets you so far. The problem with Romaji is it is a phonetic rendering of the symbols, and there, and symbol grouping affects pronounciation. Other than symbol order (grammar) it is sort of like german because (mostly) each symbol has a meaning and most words roughly mean what the combined symbols mean.

Fukushima Nuclear Plant is a good illustration of the problems (particularly if you are doing a search) There are two terms that are rendered Fukushima Nuclear Plant, 福島第一原子力発電所 and 福島第一原発. 福島第一原発 is actually an abbreviation, 原発 is actually the first letters of atomic energy 原子力 (genshiryoku) and power plant 発電所 (hatsudensho). Google didn't used to flag this so you would look at the kanji and go WTF. Because 原 (hara) is a prefix meaning original or primary, 発 (hatsu) is a symbol used in words that mean creation, development or generation, such as 宇宙開発 space development, 宇宙大爆発 - big bang, or 発電 - power generation. 原発 is pronounced genpatsu and is translated as nuclear power plant even though it is just an abbreviation (like writing NuPo instead of Nuclear Power Plant).
11-12-2012, 06:24 AM #40
Octo Mother Superior
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shït Roger, keep your Nikes to yourself

As if it wasn't the plan all along BaconDance.gif
11-12-2012, 09:51 AM #41
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(11-12-2012, 06:00 AM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  hey,,, what the term for Nikes ?

The sneakers

not the missiles chuckle.gif



ニケ
Ni-ke (Nike) Nike is a greek goddess of victory (the Roman goddess Victoria), since she isn't Japanese the translators produce a phonetic rendering in Kanji. This will take you to the Japanese wiki page about the greek goddess. Most English dictionary pronunciation transcriptions show \ˈnī-kē\ as the preferred pronounciation.

ナイキ
Na-i-ki (Naiki) and takes you to a tennis shoe page (first thing) so this is how the American Multinational company Nike (founded in 1964 as Blue Ribbon Sports) prefers their name rendered in Japanese. \ˈnaɪkiː\ is a secondary English dictionary pronunciation transcription of Nike.

テニスシューズ
(tenisushuzu) is tennis shoes. This is another English loan word spelled phonetically.

(曖昧さ回避)
means disambiguation

11-12-2012, 01:10 PM #42
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Good lord Tadpole, I have enough problems with Finnish. Swedish is relatively easy to learn, tis a lot like English, and as a bonus I can read German, Norwegian, Danish etc... I've watched a few Norwegian movies, I actually get most of it.
Octo and I speak English at home 99% of the time, but I speak enough Swedish to carry myself at the grocery store... If I have to. chuckle.gif

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11-13-2012, 03:47 AM #43
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(11-12-2012, 01:10 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Good lord Tadpole, I have enough problems with Finnish. Swedish is relatively easy to learn, tis a lot like English, and as a bonus I can read German, Norwegian, Danish etc... I've watched a few Norwegian movies, I actually get most of it.
Octo and I speak English at home 99% of the time, but I speak enough Swedish to carry myself at the grocery store... If I have to. chuckle.gif


I really didn't pay attention to Japanese until I started researching Fukushima. My search results weren't what I expected, and the translators weren't very good so I started digging.

I had 2 years of hispanic, 2 years of french, 2 years of Latin, and 10 years of English in public school and about a year of English in college so English is really my best language. I've got to watch Telemundo with captions enabled and get my hispanic back up to speed.

I'm a little envious of your languages. I lived in Minnesota for a while and couldn't speak any Scandihoovian. I do have one or two good Norwegian jokes and a couple of UP Michigander Finlander jokes.



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