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The Jupiter Flashes don’t make sense as “impacts”, here’s why.
07-12-2016, 07:16 PM #46
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(07-12-2016, 07:14 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-12-2016, 07:05 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-12-2016, 07:00 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-12-2016, 06:55 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-12-2016, 06:51 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  Yes, all theory at this point. BUT remember that we have the evidence of the strange anomalous effects that before 2009 were considered very rare on Jupiter.

All of the supposed "impacts" do NOT make sense as impacts but they do as internally generated events. So, this makes the "fractional crit" theory more important at this point. It shows how decades of "Jupiter RARELY impacted" theory can be saved, and how the "Jupiter cannot get hit by asteroids these days..." theory can be saved.

As I said, I am not dismissing any theories at this point, just trying to make sense of this for myself, in my own way.

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Yes, and I thank you for the debate! I've already realized that there is a broken link in my book due to this debate. I will be fixing that tonight with the corrected link.

And thank you for the brain workout, now I am looking forward to my therapeutic massage (mindless abandon). lol

Sounds nice! lol

It is only nice when I tell her to not do the deep massage, because that is more like torture. lol
07-12-2016, 10:01 PM #47
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I remember watching this documentary which discussed quite a few things about Jupiter and having my mind completely blown. Well worth the watch

07-13-2016, 02:41 PM #48
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(07-12-2016, 10:01 PM)T Wrote:  I remember watching this documentary which discussed quite a few things about Jupiter and having my mind completely blown. Well worth the watch


"What orbit of the planets has put you and me in this place, at this moment? Where time takes a breath, and we dance on the edge of our dreams?”



http://www.gsjournal.net/old/science/guerami.pdf

Synopsis 7 – Planets
Earth-like planets and moons are similarly “born” by electrical expulsion of part of the positively charged cores of dwarf stars and gas giants. That explains the dichotomy between the dense rocky planets and moons and the gaseous giant planets. In the Electric Universe model, gravity itself is simply an electrostatic dipolar force. So planetary orbits are stabilized against gravitational chaos by exchange of electric charge through their plasma tails (Venus is still doing so strongly, judging by its “cometary” magnetotail, and it has the most circular orbit of any planet) and consequent modification of the gravity of each body. Planets will quickly assume orbits that ensure the least electrical interaction. Impacts between large bodies are avoided and capture rendered more probable by exchange of electric charge between them. Capture of our Moon becomes the only option, it cannot have been created from the Earth. Evidence of past planetary instabilities is written large on the surfaces of all solid bodies in the solar system. That evidence is in the form of electric arc cratering.

Synopsis 8 – Electrical Cratering
Electric discharges between closely approaching bodies takes the form of “thunderbolts of the gods”, or distinctively shaped helical plasmoids. Such plasmoids were sculpted by many ancient cultures when depicting Jupiter hurling his thunderbolt.

Jupiter’s thunderbolt raises questions about the history of mankind and the Earth that have never before been asked. When it comes to dating planetary surfaces, plasmoids cause characteristic electrical arc scarring in the form of sinuous channels and neatly circular craters with steep walls and occasional central peaks. Such craters are universally misinterpreted as impact craters. The sinuous channels are wrongly classified as riverbeds or lava channels. Minutes or hours of electrical scarring can produce a surface like that of the Moon, which is later interpreted in ad hoc fashion to be billions of years old. Hemispheric differences in cratering are expected in this model. And for the sceptics, subdued electric arc machining of a planet-sized body continues to this day on Jupiter’s innermost moon, Io. See the news items on my website holoscience.com for many successful predictions about the discoveries that would be made as close-up images of Io became available.

Planetary geologists are not trained to recognize electric arc scarring otherwise they would have seen at a glance the characteristic cathodic surface erosion and cathode jets on Io. They are definitely not volcanos as we know them from geology textbooks.

Synopsis 9 – Electrical Weather
Most people are unaware that we have no understanding of how lightning is created in clouds. The simplest answer is that lightning is not generated there at all. Clouds merely form a convenient path to Earth for electricity originating in space. Without clouds it is possible to have a “bolt from the blue”. That is happening on Venus (although the sky certainly isn’t blue). Weather systems are driven primarily by external electrical influences.

Consequently the Sun has weather patterns. And the most distant planet, Neptune, has the most violent winds in the solar system though it receives very little energy from the Sun. Electric discharges from space cause Mars’ huge dust devils and planet-wide dust storms. They are responsible for Jupiter’s Great Red Spot and the “spokes” in Saturn’s rings. It is why Venus has lightning in its smog-like clouds and its mountain-tops glow with St. Elmo’s fire. It is why the Earth has lightning stretching into space in the form of “red sprites” and “blue jets”, and why tethered satellites “blow a fuse”.

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2015/01...-universe/

Could Jupiter's flashes be from the electric universe?
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07-13-2016, 03:38 PM #49
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(07-13-2016, 02:41 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-12-2016, 10:01 PM)T Wrote:  I remember watching this documentary which discussed quite a few things about Jupiter and having my mind completely blown. Well worth the watch


"What orbit of the planets has put you and me in this place, at this moment? Where time takes a breath, and we dance on the edge of our dreams?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jODyhZVbTM

http://www.gsjournal.net/old/science/guerami.pdf

Synopsis 7 – Planets
Earth-like planets and moons are similarly “born” by electrical expulsion of part of the positively charged cores of dwarf stars and gas giants. That explains the dichotomy between the dense rocky planets and moons and the gaseous giant planets. In the Electric Universe model, gravity itself is simply an electrostatic dipolar force. So planetary orbits are stabilized against gravitational chaos by exchange of electric charge through their plasma tails (Venus is still doing so strongly, judging by its “cometary” magnetotail, and it has the most circular orbit of any planet) and consequent modification of the gravity of each body. Planets will quickly assume orbits that ensure the least electrical interaction. Impacts between large bodies are avoided and capture rendered more probable by exchange of electric charge between them. Capture of our Moon becomes the only option, it cannot have been created from the Earth. Evidence of past planetary instabilities is written large on the surfaces of all solid bodies in the solar system. That evidence is in the form of electric arc cratering.

Synopsis 8 – Electrical Cratering
Electric discharges between closely approaching bodies takes the form of “thunderbolts of the gods”, or distinctively shaped helical plasmoids. Such plasmoids were sculpted by many ancient cultures when depicting Jupiter hurling his thunderbolt.

Jupiter’s thunderbolt raises questions about the history of mankind and the Earth that have never before been asked. When it comes to dating planetary surfaces, plasmoids cause characteristic electrical arc scarring in the form of sinuous channels and neatly circular craters with steep walls and occasional central peaks. Such craters are universally misinterpreted as impact craters. The sinuous channels are wrongly classified as riverbeds or lava channels. Minutes or hours of electrical scarring can produce a surface like that of the Moon, which is later interpreted in ad hoc fashion to be billions of years old. Hemispheric differences in cratering are expected in this model. And for the sceptics, subdued electric arc machining of a planet-sized body continues to this day on Jupiter’s innermost moon, Io. See the news items on my website holoscience.com for many successful predictions about the discoveries that would be made as close-up images of Io became available.

Planetary geologists are not trained to recognize electric arc scarring otherwise they would have seen at a glance the characteristic cathodic surface erosion and cathode jets on Io. They are definitely not volcanos as we know them from geology textbooks.

Synopsis 9 – Electrical Weather
Most people are unaware that we have no understanding of how lightning is created in clouds. The simplest answer is that lightning is not generated there at all. Clouds merely form a convenient path to Earth for electricity originating in space. Without clouds it is possible to have a “bolt from the blue”. That is happening on Venus (although the sky certainly isn’t blue). Weather systems are driven primarily by external electrical influences.

Consequently the Sun has weather patterns. And the most distant planet, Neptune, has the most violent winds in the solar system though it receives very little energy from the Sun. Electric discharges from space cause Mars’ huge dust devils and planet-wide dust storms. They are responsible for Jupiter’s Great Red Spot and the “spokes” in Saturn’s rings. It is why Venus has lightning in its smog-like clouds and its mountain-tops glow with St. Elmo’s fire. It is why the Earth has lightning stretching into space in the form of “red sprites” and “blue jets”, and why tethered satellites “blow a fuse”.

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2015/01...-universe/

Could Jupiter's flashes be from the electric universe?

Very interesting and I'm not discounting this theory either. Good information here that makes a lot of sense. I've had other engineers pose the same question to me. Is it possible that a hybrid theory will evolve which allows internal fusion but also accounts for the logical electric-induced features talked about in EC theory.

In other words do internal fusion reactions strengthen electrical driving power of celestial bodies? Can we have both?

There is evidence of fusion from the sun from SOMEWHERE. EC theory says it is from the surface only. Tests show 1/3 of the expected neutrinos from fusion reactions from the sun.

Here's another thing to ponder. If they tried an experiment on Jupiter to test the "star fusion" theory (the experiment is my "Jovian Transformation Hypothesis") and it WORKED (as evidenced by the marks and flashes and increased IR we see now), does this go to prove fusion internally is a valid theory for stars. OR is it possible they created something completely novel here with Jupiter and therefore the outcome will be unpredictable. ???

If as you imply "these flashes are due to electric universe principles." Then WHY JUST SINCE 2009 have we seen what has not be seen before. Massive flashes. Impacts that don't make sense.

It seems SOMETHING was induced here. JOTH (Jovian Transformation Hypothesis) says and shows how it can very well be fusion-induced. However the theory is not opposed to saying that is can also go hand-in-hand with Electric Cosmos theory.

All of the dots have not yet been connected.
07-13-2016, 04:03 PM #50
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Do these flashes on Jupiter occur mostly at the equator? Or in the area of where a belt vanished? It appears the flash is on the lower part of the belt that vanished,

http://www.seeker.com/jupiters-cloud-ban...59126.html



http://earthsky.org/earth/where-on-earth...flash-most

X-ray aurora resulted when solar storm (electric?) arrived on the planet.



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07-13-2016, 04:40 PM #51
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(07-13-2016, 04:03 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Do these flashes on Jupiter occur mostly at the equator? Or in the area of where a belt vanished? It appears the flash is on the lower part of the belt that vanished,

http://www.seeker.com/jupiters-cloud-ban...59126.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK7rnjcmqpI

http://earthsky.org/earth/where-on-earth...flash-most

X-ray aurora resulted when solar storm (electric?) arrived on the planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP8x8Vu161g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-SZRl6pso

Unique Stranger, can you insert an image for me here? At this link: http://jabbingjupiter.com/ there is a 3d diagram of all marks and flashes that have been verified to date. This will show you that YES all flashes have occurred between the latitudes of +17 to -17. NEB to SEB of Jupiter.
07-13-2016, 04:44 PM #52
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[Image: 9qa8h5.png]

Now, isn't that an interesting find.
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07-13-2016, 04:52 PM #53
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(07-13-2016, 04:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  [Image: 250nywl.png]

Now, isn't that an interesting find.

Thanks! Yes, you can actually see a 'wheel and spoke' forming roughly around an axis that is magnetic north and the line perpendicular to the antipode flashes. This lends credence to these flashes being "magnetosphere-electrically guided" energy. We need more verified flashes for more proof.
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07-13-2016, 04:56 PM #54
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(07-13-2016, 04:52 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-13-2016, 04:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  [Image: 250nywl.png]

Now, isn't that an interesting find.

Thanks! Yes, you can actually see a 'wheel and spoke' forming roughly around an axis that is magnetic north and the line perpendicular to the antipode flashes. This lends credence to these flashes being "magnetosphere-electrically guided" energy. We need more verified flashes for more proof.

I drew this diagram in SysIII coordinates so that one can see all events relative to assumed standard rotation of Jupiter's core (SysIII or L3).
07-13-2016, 04:57 PM #55
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(07-13-2016, 04:52 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-13-2016, 04:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  [Image: 250nywl.png]

Now, isn't that an interesting find.

Thanks! Yes, you can actually see a 'wheel and spoke' forming roughly around an axis that is magnetic north and the line perpendicular to the antipode flashes. This lends credence to these flashes being "magnetosphere-electrically guided" energy. We need more verified flashes for more proof.

This is fun...what a blast! lol.gif
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07-13-2016, 05:06 PM #56
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(07-13-2016, 04:57 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-13-2016, 04:52 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-13-2016, 04:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  [Image: 250nywl.png]

Now, isn't that an interesting find.

Thanks! Yes, you can actually see a 'wheel and spoke' forming roughly around an axis that is magnetic north and the line perpendicular to the antipode flashes. This lends credence to these flashes being "magnetosphere-electrically guided" energy. We need more verified flashes for more proof.

This is fun...what a blast! lol.gif

Yes, I've been studying this subject since 2003. It's been quite a trip and I have learned a ton! I'm glad to see others are realizing something strange may be afoot here. :-)
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07-13-2016, 06:10 PM #57
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(07-12-2016, 10:01 PM)T Wrote:  I remember watching this documentary which discussed quite a few things about Jupiter and having my mind completely blown. Well worth the watch


Interesting video. Thanks for showing us that. "Venus from the GRS of Jupiter..." that is intriguing!
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08-26-2016, 08:12 PM #58
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(07-13-2016, 05:06 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-13-2016, 04:57 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-13-2016, 04:52 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-13-2016, 04:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  [Image: 250nywl.png]

Now, isn't that an interesting find.

Thanks! Yes, you can actually see a 'wheel and spoke' forming roughly around an axis that is magnetic north and the line perpendicular to the antipode flashes. This lends credence to these flashes being "magnetosphere-electrically guided" energy. We need more verified flashes for more proof.

This is fun...what a blast! lol.gif

Yes, I've been studying this subject since 2003. It's been quite a trip and I have learned a ton! I'm glad to see others are realizing something strange may be afoot here. :-)

The diagram above can be found at: http://jabbingjupiter.com/ fyi
09-03-2016, 04:53 PM #59
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Blue energy emanates from it's northern pole.



View in infrared.

09-03-2016, 06:47 PM #60
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Would this be to do with anti magnets the objects are possible negative to Jupiter's positive so can't get thru the surface .. sorry can't really explain what I'm thinking lol. ..



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